SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

[2cents]

I've just had a look at middle Eastern countries affected. Their deaths are negligible or single digits. Could be lack of management of the issue but then Iran seems to buck that trend and then some. What's going on there then (not Iran, we know about them)?

This is from an Egyptian:

May be applicable for much of the region, although Turkey, Israel, Lebanon and the Gulf states appear to be relatively transparent (Turkey after reporting nothing for ages) while the likes of Syria, Iraq and Yemen may be a little too chaotic right now for any kind of accurate surveying.

 

[Revan]

I don't actually think I'm a pigeon you know, to base your entire argument on that is a bit daft. It's also daft to not use a bit of common sense when you can go two weeks without showing any symptoms. I know it's difficult for you to understand that because, as you've already asserted; you think I think I'm a bird.

It's EXTREMELY daft to get so uppity about the whole thing as well so I recommend you spend a couple of weeks thinking about why you're so defensive all the time on this forum. Preferably indoors and maintaining six feet of distance between you and others.

Six is the number after you've counted all the fingers one hand, just in case you're struggling. Again; I'm not an actual bird. Please try and remember that.

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant

 

[Raoul]

This is from an Egyptian:

May be applicable for much of the region, although Turkey, Israel, Lebanon and the Gulf states appear to be relatively transparent (Turkey after reporting nothing for ages) while the likes of Syria, Iraq and Yemen may be a little too chaotic right now for any kind of accurate surveying.

Some of these places almost certainly don't have the levels of testing required for semi-accurate numbers.

 

[OutlawGER]

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UK Dates​	UK Deaths​	Italy Dates​	Italy Deaths​	Spain Dates​	Spain Deaths​	France Dates​	France Deaths​
March 8th​	3​	Feb 23rd​	3​	March 5th​	3​	March 2nd​	3​
March 9th​	5​	Feb 24th​	7​	March 6th​	8​	March 3rd​	4​
March 10th​	6​	Feb 25th​	11​	March 7th​	10​	March 4th​	4​
March 11th​	8​	Feb 26th​	12​	March 8th​	17​	March 5th​	7​
March 12th​	10​	Feb 27th​	17​	March 9th​	30​	March 6th​	9​
March 13th​	11​	Feb 28th​	21​	March 10th​	36​	March 7th​	16​
March 14th​	21​	Feb 29th​	29​	March 11th​	55​	March 8th​	19​
March 15th​	35​	March 1st​	41​	March 12th​	86​	March 9th​	30​
March 16th​	55​	March 2nd​	52​	March 13th​	133​	March 10th​	33​
March 17th​	71​	March 3rd​	79​	March 14th​	196​	March 11th​	48​
March 18th​	104​	March 4th​	107​	March 15th​	294​	March 12th​	61​
March 19th​	144​	March 5th​	148​	March 16th​	342​	March 13th​	79​
March 20th​	177​	March 6th​	197​	March 17th​	533​	March 14th​	91​
March 21st​	233​	March 7th​	233​	March 18th​	638​	March 15th​	127​
March 22nd​	281​	March 8th​	366​	March 19th​	833​	March 16th​	148​
March 23rd​	335​	March 9th​	463​	March 20th​	1,093​	March 17th​	175​
March 24th​	422​	March 10th​	631​	March 21st​	1,381​	March 18th​	244​
March 25th​	468​	March 11th​	827​	March 22nd​	1,813​	March 19th​	372​
March 26th​	578​	March 12th​	1,016​	March 23rd​	2,207​	March 20th​	450​
March 27th​	759​	March 13th​	1,266​	March 24th​	2,696​	March 21st​	562​
March 28th​	1,019​	March 14th​	1,441​	March 25th​	3,434​	March 22nd​	674​
​	​	March 15th​	1,809​	March 26th​	4,145​	March 23rd​	860​
​	​	March 16th​	2,158​	March 27th​	4,858​	March 24th​	1100​
​	​	March 17th​	2,503​	March 28th​	5,690​	March 25th​	1331​
​	​	March 18th​	2,978​	​	​	March 26th​	1,696​
​	​	March 19th​	3,405​	​	​	March 27th​	1,995​
​	​	March 20th​	4,032​	​	​	March 28th​	2,314​

​

Are you doing this table?

If so, would you mind to include Germany?

 

[Grinner]

You've drawn the short straw getting this thread Grinner, I hope you money's gone up.

It's all good. Tensions are high, I get it.

 

[Arruda]

I think Bolsonaro is becoming politically isolated. Most governors are ignoring him and now a Federal Court forbade him from applying measures against social isolation.

 

[NYAS]

This is from an Egyptian:

May be applicable for much of the region, although Turkey, Israel, Lebanon and the Gulf states appear to be relatively transparent (Turkey after reporting nothing for ages) while the likes of Syria, Iraq and Yemen may be a little too chaotic right now for any kind of accurate surveying.

We’ve been extremely transparent (Kuwait) and have been dealing with it excellently. I can categorically say that public opinion of the government at the moment is by far the highest it’s been since I was born (I’m almost 30).

They’ve set up a website that gets updated daily:

https://corona.e.gov.kw/En/

 

[sullydnl]

https://covid19-survey.org/results.html

Interesting survey on how people think they and their governments have responded to the crisis.

 

[NYAS]

I think Bolsonaro is becoming politically isolated. Most governors are ignoring him and now a Federal Court forbade him from applying measures against social isolation.

He is ridiculous, he makes Trump look like Einstein. Very upset for Brazil.

 

[Ludens the Red]

I don't actually think I'm a pigeon you know, to base your entire argument on that is a bit daft. It's also daft to not use a bit of common sense when you can go two weeks without showing any symptoms. I know it's difficult for you to understand that because, as you've already asserted; you think I think I'm a bird.

It's EXTREMELY daft to get so uppity about the whole thing as well so I recommend you spend a couple of weeks thinking about why you're so defensive all the time on this forum. Preferably indoors and maintaining six feet of distance between you and others.

Six is the number after you've counted all the fingers one hand, just in case you're struggling. Again; I'm not an actual bird. Please try and remember that.

 

[ThatsGreat]

I don't actually think I'm a pigeon you know, to base your entire argument on that is a bit daft. It's also daft to not use a bit of common sense when you can go two weeks without showing any symptoms. I know it's difficult for you to understand that because, as you've already asserted; you think I think I'm a bird.

It's EXTREMELY daft to get so uppity about the whole thing as well so I recommend you spend a couple of weeks thinking about why you're so defensive all the time on this forum. Preferably indoors and maintaining six feet of distance between you and others.

Six is the number after you've counted all the fingers one hand, just in case you're struggling. Again; I'm not an actual bird. Please try and remember that.

 

[DavidDeSchmikes]

 

[sullydnl]

Interesting that this is a NI thing rather than a UK thing.

 

[Brwned]

Are you doing this table?

If so, would you mind to include Germany?

I was playing around with the data earlier and you can see it here as a graph or table, and switch between total cases, active cases and deaths. It's those 4 European countries + USA, Iran and South Korea for balance.

 

[Shakesy]

You're in SA yeah? Joburg as well? Be safe man. Remember confirmed does not equate to infected.

SA, yes... Langebaan, WC.

Pretty nervous times. Hang in there! In the next day or two we'll see the effects of the Wed/Thu mass gatherings in shops.

 

[Deery]

Interesting that this is a NI thing rather than a UK thing.

Is there going to be a public announcement?

 

[Raoul]

I don't actually think I'm a pigeon you know, to base your entire argument on that is a bit daft. It's also daft to not use a bit of common sense when you can go two weeks without showing any symptoms. I know it's difficult for you to understand that because, as you've already asserted; you think I think I'm a bird.

It's EXTREMELY daft to get so uppity about the whole thing as well so I recommend you spend a couple of weeks thinking about why you're so defensive all the time on this forum. Preferably indoors and maintaining six feet of distance between you and others.

Six is the number after you've counted all the fingers one hand, just in case you're struggling. Again; I'm not an actual bird. Please try and remember that.

 

[McGrathsipan]

So the number of deaths in the UK has gone up by 43% over the last 2 days. That's both depressing and frightening.

Sure Boris said that was the plan didnt he.
The UK acted too late.
It's so sad but many will die

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

We are only testing possible cases who are being admitted to hospital.

If I think a patient could manage at home, we’re not swabbing them, even if it’s a barn-door clinical diagnosis. This seems to solely be because we don’t have the facilities to run a large amount of tests, and would result in further delays in confirming admitted patients.

At the risk of sounding an idiot, if you are turning away 'barn-door' cases from testing, and only testing those who are been admitted in to hospital becasue they are suspected of having it, and deemed so serious they need hospital care, then why are 80 % plus testing negative, what are they actually suffering from instead?

 

[Deery]

https://www.executiveoffice-ni.gov.uk/news/executive-approves-new-powers-protect-public

Details on Northern Ireland

 

[JPRouve]

At the risk of sounding an idiot, if you are turning away 'barn-door' cases from testing, and only testing those who are been admitted in to hospital becasue they are suspected of having it, and deemed so serious they need hospital care, then why are 80 % plus testing negative, what are they actually suffering from instead?

For a large part it's people with complications due to the flu.

 

[Unlikely lad]

At the risk of sounding an idiot, if you are turning away 'barn-door' cases from testing, and only testing those who are been admitted in to hospital becasue they are suspected of having it, and deemed so serious they need hospital care, then why are 80 % plus testing negative, what are they actually suffering from instead?

A 50 year old with no past medical history presenting with the symptoms, a classic CXR and the expected blood results is 99% COVID-19.

An 80 year old with several comorbidities including severe COPD is more complex - for example, it’s difficult to tell from the scans and bloods whether it’s only a bacterial pneumonia that’s causing the increased O2 requirement, or whether there’s a super-added viral infection that’s kicked it off.

 

[Ady87]

FFS can people please remember to include where they are posting from when saying stuff like this? It would be really helpful.

Sorry to single you out.

Sorry mate, it feels like every other post I make references my job or the area I live so I sometimes try and avoid it.

The lady in critical condition lives in Stockport, not sure what hospital she is in. The younger lad lives in Cheshire and is in Whiston Hospital.

 

[Lastwolf]

https://www.executiveoffice-ni.gov.uk/news/executive-approves-new-powers-protect-public

Details on Northern Ireland

So more businesses are allowed to open, how the hell is a dentist supposed to keep 2m distance?

 

[Deery]

So more businesses are allowed to open, how the hell is a dentist supposed to keep 2m distance?

I don’t know but my dentist will only do emergency procedures from now on

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

A 50 year old with no past medical history presenting with the symptoms, a classic CXR and the expected blood results is 99% COVID-19.

An 80 year old with several comorbidities including severe COPD is more complex - for example, it’s difficult to tell from the scans and bloods whether it’s only a bacterial pneumonia that’s causing the increased O2 requirement, or whether there’s a super-added viral infection that’s kicked it off.

Thanks for this, I understand alot better now, I'm just surprised by the numbers in the group of 80 year olds (or similar) with symptoms falling into line with needing a test, and then not having it, it's an eye opener.

 

[Camilo]

The BBC news is a fecking disgrace. Anti Russia shite on currently, coming immediately after the "coronavirus causing binmen abuse" story

fecking nonsense.

 

[711]

Sorry mate, it feels like every other post I make references my job or the area I live so I sometimes try and avoid it.

The lady in critical condition lives in Stockport, not sure what hospital she is in. The younger lad lives in Cheshire and is in Whiston Hospital.

I get your reasons, good luck to you all.

 

[Shane88]

The BBC news is a fecking disgrace. Anti Russia shite on currently, coming immediately after the "coronavirus causing binmen abuse" story

fecking nonsense.

Why are binmen getting abuse?

 

[Arruda]

He is ridiculous, he makes Trump look like Einstein. Very upset for Brazil.

On the other hand, it seems (I hope so) Brazil will shut him down far before the USA does anything similar to Trump.

 

[Deery]

Why are binmen getting abuse?

I think it’s to do with the guys working at the dump because large home waste is being rejected and you have to put everything in black bin liners..

 

[dwd]

So more businesses are allowed to open, how the hell is a dentist supposed to keep 2m distance?

SDS drillbit?

 

[redshaw]

Are you doing this table?

If so, would you mind to include Germany?

I've been updating it, user RedSky created it a while back.

Added in Germany and USA. Germany tracking quite close to France, hadn't noticed that before.

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United Kingdom Dates​	UK Deaths​	Italy Dates​	Italy Deaths​	Spain Dates​	Spain Deaths​	France Dates​	France Deaths​	Germany Dates​	Germany Deaths​	USA Dates​	USA Deaths​
Mar 8th​	3​	Feb-23rd​	3​	Mar 5th​	3​	Mar 2nd​	3​	Mar 11th​	3​	Mar 1st​	2​
Mar 9th​	5​	Feb 24th​	7​	Mar 6th​	8​	Mar 3rd​	4​	Mar 12th​	5​	Mar 2nd​	6​
Mar 10th​	6​	Feb 25th​	11​	Mar 7th​	10​	Mar 4th​	4​	Mar 13th​	8​	Mar 3rd​	9​
Mar 11th​	8​	Feb 26th​	12​	Mar 8th​	17​	Mar 5th​	7​	Mar 14th​	8​	Mar 4th​	11​
Mar 12th​	10​	Feb 27th​	17​	Mar 9th​	30​	Mar 6th​	9​	Mar 15th​	12​	Mar 5th​	11​
Mar 13th​	11​	Feb 28th​	21​	Mar 10th​	36​	Mar 7th​	16​	Mar 16th​	12​	Mar 6th​	14​
Mar 14th​	21​	Feb 29th​	29​	Mar 11th​	55​	Mar 8th​	19​	Mar 17th​	12​	Mar 7th​	19​
Mar 15th​	35​	Mar 1st​	41​	Mar 12th​	86​	Mar 9th​	30​	Mar 18th​	12​	Mar 8th​	21​
Mar 16th​	55​	Mar 2nd​	52​	Mar 13th​	133​	Mar 10th​	33​	Mar 19th​	20​	Mar 9th​	26​
Mar 17th​	71​	Mar 3rd​	79​	Mar 14th​	196​	Mar 11th​	48​	Mar 20th​	31​	Mar 10th​	31​
Mar 18th​	104​	Mar 4th​	107​	Mar 15th​	294​	Mar 12th​	61​	Mar 21st​	47​	Mar 11th​	37​
Mar 19th​	144​	Mar 5th​	148​	Mar 16th​	342​	Mar 13th​	79​	Mar-22nd​	55​	Mar 12th​	41​
Mar 20th​	177​	Mar 6th​	197​	Mar 17th​	533​	Mar 14th​	91​	Mar 23rd​	86​	Mar 13th​	49​
Mar 21st​	233​	Mar 7th​	233​	Mar 18th​	638​	Mar 15th​	127​	Mar 24th​	114​	Mar 14th​	55​
Mar 22nd​	281​	Mar 8th​	366​	Mar 19th​	833​	Mar 16th​	148​	Mar 25th​	149​	Mar 15th​	62​
Mar 23rd​	335​	Mar 9th​	463​	Mar 20th​	1,093​	Mar 17th​	175​	Mar 26th​	198​	Mar 16th​	76​
Mar 24th​	422​	Mar 10th​	631​	Mar 21st​	1,381​	Mar 18th​	244​	Mar 27th​	253​	Mar 17th​	97​
Mar 25th​	468​	Mar 11th​	827​	Mar 22nd​	1,813​	Mar 19th​	372​	Mar 28th​	325​	Mar 18th​	123​
Mar 26th​	578​	Mar 12th​	1,016​	Mar 23rd​	2,207​	Mar 20th​	450​	Mar 29th​	​	Mar19th​	175​
Mar 27th​	759​	Mar 13th​	1,266​	Mar 24th​	2,696​	Mar 21st​	562​	Mar 30th​	​	Mar 20th​	230​
Mar 28th​	1,019​	Mar 14th​	1,441​	Mar 25th​	3,434​	Mar 22nd​	674​	​	​	Mar 21st​	298​
Mar 29th​	​	Mar 15th​	1,809​	Mar 26th​	4,145​	Mar 23rd​	860​	​	​	Mar 22nd​	408​
​	​	Mar 16th​	2,158​	Mar 27th​	4,858​	Mar 24th​	1100​	​	​	Mar 23rd​	519​
​	​	Mar 17th​	2,503​	Mar 28th​	5,690​	Mar 25th​	1331​	​	​	Mar 24th​	681​
​	​	Mar 18th​	2,978​	Mar 29th​	​	Mar 26th​	1,696​	​	​	Mar 25th​	906​
​	​	Mar 19th​	3,405​	​	​	Mar 27th​	1,995​	​	​	Mar 26th​	1,159​
​	​	Mar 20th​	4,032​	​	​	Mar 28th​	2,314​	​	​	Mar 27th​	1,476​
​	​	Mar 21st​	​	​	​	Mar 29th​	​	​	​	Mar 28th​	​

​

 

[Amar__]

https://www.merkur.de/welt/coronavi...260.html?utm_source=Klix.ba&utm_medium=Clanak

Some good news before sleep, but I hope it won't be too late for this.

 

[syrian_scholes]

This is from an Egyptian:

May be applicable for much of the region, although Turkey, Israel, Lebanon and the Gulf states appear to be relatively transparent (Turkey after reporting nothing for ages) while the likes of Syria, Iraq and Yemen may be a little too chaotic right now for any kind of accurate surveying.

I can confirm Syria is in a very weird state, while both my parents are doctors and haven't encountered any covid19 patients, the government shutting down the whole country basically and I think an Emirates prince said he stands with Syria in this tough situation casts big doubts over what the government is letting out.

 

[Sweet Square]

completely normal country

 

[FootballHQ]

Sky being sensationalist?

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ockdown-and-social-unrest-is-brewing-11965122

 

[Adamsk7]

Sky being sensationalist?

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ockdown-and-social-unrest-is-brewing-11965122

probably not, my Mrs is already clawing at the walls and she’s only been home a week.

Mind you she does have to tolerate me 24 hrs a day.......

 

[MikeUpNorth]

Sky being sensationalist?

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ockdown-and-social-unrest-is-brewing-11965122

I don't think it will be a surprise if significant social unrest emerges in the next week or two. Realistically, I think you can only have these types of measures in place for 6-8 weeks at most in a western country before it begins to unravel.

 

[11101]

Sky being sensationalist?

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ockdown-and-social-unrest-is-brewing-11965122

I think in the south its probably true, I dont see it in the north though.

A lot cant get government help because they've spent their whole lives dodging tax, and now theyre moaning they're stuck indoors when nearly 1000 people a day are dying because of this? There are bigger things going on.