Not that Bojo is answering it, of course.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Wow. Home delivery of such a recently approved antiviral is a baller move. I think it’s probably a good decision too.
I can access the app fine, but it just gets to the page where it tells me how to get my domestic covid pass with text about the ways to get it, but nothing that you can use the app for which is the whole point of it. The whole system is typically bullshit cheap nonsense, how can we have these new restrictions if those of us who are vaccinated can't even get cleared now?
Typically shambolic.
Typically shambolic.
Nope, just takes me to the "how to get your covid pass" page. I've not fully logged in with all my details though, but you aren't supposed to have to for the covid pass for domestic events (which I've done in the past) so it can't be that. Unless they've fecked with it and not told us of course.
Time will tell but it does seem a very fleet footed and forward thinking idea.
Pretty much that. Blatant diversion tactic.
It sounds like you're either not logged in or you've not done the identity validation thing - you need photo ID etc for that.
I never had to do photo ID with mine but I know people who did
No, I am logged in. I won't take that personally btw
I haven't don't the identity part, but you don't have to do that do get a domestic pass.
There was an update a couple of days ago, I don't know if access to the domestic pass changed as part of that. I wanted access to both passes so I did the ID thing right from the start, so I wouldn't have noticed.No, I am logged in. I won't take that personally btw
I haven't don't the identity part, but you don't have to do that do get a domestic pass.
There are changes/updates underway though to the front end and the database so it could be temporary. Bits of it have just had the spinning loading thing and nothing happening at various times. It did flash up an updated terms and conditions thing the other day as well but I admit I didn't bother reading it
The law applies to all equally, but less equally to some
So new rules for indoor venues of 500 capacity and outdoor of 4,000.
Surely that’s all venues covered? What’s this ‘also for any venue with more than 10,000’?
Which venues are neither indoors nor outside?
Surely that’s all venues covered? What’s this ‘also for any venue with more than 10,000’?
Which venues are neither indoors nor outside?
Forget that - apparently a lot of people are getting the spinning/loading thing followed by that message. It's a loading/updating database issue.There was an update a couple of days ago, I don't know if access to the domestic pass changed as part of that. I wanted access to both passes so I did the ID thing right from the start, so I wouldn't have noticed.
There are changes/updates underway though to the front end and the database so it could be temporary. Bits of it have just had the spinning loading thing and nothing happening at various times. It did flash up an updated terms and conditions thing the other day as well but I admit I didn't bother reading it
It relates to seating arrangements I think.
My favourite bit was that having advised people to work from home if possible, he then suggested that work parties can go ahead as planned.
O. Ver. It.
feck you C-virus. I hate you. WTF. WT actual feck.
Ya bastard!
feck you C-virus. I hate you. WTF. WT actual feck.
Ya bastard!
Yeah. Kind of same old same old that the bloody thing doesn't work and wasn't ready for these restrictions.
Not really a shock with government websites/apps.
To be fair half the population probably did what you did and booted it up at the same time after the announcement just to see if it would work.
Probably. Though my missus did it because she's out tomorrow and wanted to make sure, that's why I tested it. Otherwise I wouldn't give a feck as I've never been asked to show it, even at football or gigs.
Still, wouldn't put it past them to slyly change it.
They haven't fix the app yet - they have fixed the error message. It now reads:
Please try again later
There are currently issues with accessing the Covid Pass on the NHS App and website. We are investigating the issue and will update as soon as we can.
*Cancels some annual leave booked over the next month*
I'm not suggesting their results are wrong but perhaps their interpretation is at the pessimistic end of the scale. Probably not a bad idea to encourage getting the third shot for health and for (Pfizer's) financial reasons.
Yeah wasn't the prediction 100k a day once freedom day happened in mid July? Nearly 6 months on and I think it's rarely gone above 50k daily cases despite more limited mask wearing on public transport/shops and full again sports stadiums.
Of course next two months are going to be a problem with how quickly this new variant is spreading but we'll see, just basic looking at graphs shows we're still some way off last December's grim figures currently.
I think schools being broken up a week early and then perhaps starting again middle of January might need to be looked at.
I think I'm going to have to organise a Christmas party if I want a work meeting in the next few weeks
So is it back to empty football grounds?
Since the Covid Pass has come in Italy has risen to 88% vaccination coverage in the over 12s but oddly it's the 40 year olds who are most reluctant to get it. Population coverage:
Age range 12-19 years 79%
20-29 years 93%
30-39 years 88%
40-49 years 86%
50-59 years 91%
60-69 years 92%
80-89 years 98%
Age range 12-19 years 79%
20-29 years 93%
30-39 years 88%
40-49 years 86%
50-59 years 91%
60-69 years 92%
80-89 years 98%
No, it'll just mean that everyone attending will have to either have a vaccine cert or a negative lateral flow.
This system has been in place in Scotland for a while now, but in larger venues it's only spot checks so maybe 30-40% of people actually get their certificate checked.
Another day and another chart of lab results on antibody neutralisation. Broadly that's your blood's ability to kill off Omicron before reinforcements (from the rest of your immune system) arrive.
This time, we've reached the pinnacle of emergency reporting. The preprint isn't ready but the tweet is! I'm only posting this because some proper scientists say it's actual lab results and that they have already seen more of the details:
Summarising. Past infection (labelled convalescent on the charts) unless very recent isn't helping against reinfection with Omicron. The ones optimistically labelled super immune are people who've had two vaccine doses + infection.
AZ + Pfizer (one dose of each) looks like a good combination. Boosters aren't on here but I'm going to guess anyone who has two doses of AZ + infection and had now been topped up with a Pfizer booster is about as well defended as you can get right now.
None of this tells you about protection from serious disease. It does give scientists modelling the likely infection rate growth over the next few weeks something to start from.
B.1.1.529 is Omicron
B.1.617.2 is Delta
This time, we've reached the pinnacle of emergency reporting. The preprint isn't ready but the tweet is! I'm only posting this because some proper scientists say it's actual lab results and that they have already seen more of the details:
Summarising. Past infection (labelled convalescent on the charts) unless very recent isn't helping against reinfection with Omicron. The ones optimistically labelled super immune are people who've had two vaccine doses + infection.
AZ + Pfizer (one dose of each) looks like a good combination. Boosters aren't on here but I'm going to guess anyone who has two doses of AZ + infection and had now been topped up with a Pfizer booster is about as well defended as you can get right now.
None of this tells you about protection from serious disease. It does give scientists modelling the likely infection rate growth over the next few weeks something to start from.
B.1.1.529 is Omicron
B.1.617.2 is Delta
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We've done well here, particularly when you consider it's not as easy to actually get a vaccination as it is in the UK. I suspect you have more choice where you live, but it's almost an hour's drive to the nearest centre offering me an appointment.
We have one small pharmacy in the village and although they're doing testing, you can't get a vaccination there (understandable, they simply don't have the capacity).
Agree. Been listening to LBC this morning and a couple of callers said they will refuse to get the booster after hearing about these parties. It's anecdotal and stupid, but I hope it doesn't become a big trend.
The timing of all of these data is interesting in the context of a possible drive to vaccinate 5 to 12 year olds. I will gladly queue up for my booster but I honestly find it impossible to justify giving my 10 year old daughter two doses of Pfizer in the knowledge it will provide so little protection and she has almost nothing to fear from covid anyway (nearly half her class have tested positive at some point, approx 50:50 split between minor head cold and no symptoms whatsoever)
So, help me if I'm wrong, but one needs to have had three immune responses to be considered "safe". It has nothing to do with the time that's elapsed since the second vaccination, right?
I've been fully vaccinated (August), but I need to wait 6 months (February) before I can get a booster.
That'll teach Boris, eh...
Thankfully people who call into radio shows are an odd little bunch who are not particularly representative of the wider public.
Excellent, I’ve had 2 AZ, Covid in November and a booster next week so I look forward to letting the world cough in my face
You need to verify your ID to get your COVID pass @Redlambs
I was wondering why I couldn't get mine yesterday so sent off my ID and got an email back today confirming it had been validated. Logged on and was able to download my pass immediately.
I was wondering why I couldn't get mine yesterday so sent off my ID and got an email back today confirming it had been validated. Logged on and was able to download my pass immediately.
I'm the same. Was expecting my booster date by now as my younger brother has his but I'm guessing I might be bumped down a few weeks after having covid.
My 6 months and 28 day periods came to pretty much the same day so I'll ask about the booster if I've not heard by New Year.
This is the group I'm fortunate to have just joined today. Had Covid early October following 2 AZ shots and managed to find a walk in centre in London offering Pfizer jabs to anyone over 18. Hopefully the booster drive carries on at the pace it seems to be, at least here. Queues were round the block - all ages and a range of backgrounds.
Remember - everyone has to stick to the, "it's a party," cover story of course.I think I'm going to have to organise a Christmas party if I want a work meeting in the next few weeks