I never realised Davo and noodle were straight
See, like i said, TWO wonderkids....
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You're the one marrying Inzhagi
Gayer
Inzaghi's not going to be happy when he realises I think Rooney's better than Ronaldo
I might tell him at the altar...hopeflly the shock will finish him
I might tell him at the altar...hopeflly the shock will finish him
It may well cause him to fall over...
Plechazunga said:
He wont stand for that (literally), pointing out that as the two play different positions, they can't be compared. You'll point out that by this logic, Henry is no better than Titus Bramble. You wont last the honeymoon
Why can't you compare players in different positions? It's easy..
As a worked example...Rooney and Ronaldo often play different positions, and Rooney's miles better
As a worked example...Rooney and Ronaldo often play different positions, and Rooney's miles better
Apparently you can't. Hence why Ruud and Henry are exactly as decent as each other, just different.
Yeh, I forgot that. You actually can compare them, so long as it doesn't turn out that one is obviously better than the other.
Yeh, I forgot that. You actually can compare them, so long as it doesn't turn out that one is obviously better than the other.
Henry's better than RVN, no doubt
The gap isn't as big as the one between Rooney and Ronaldo mind.....
The gap isn't as big as the one between Rooney and Ronaldo mind.....
It's a shame, this not being able to compare players in different positions malarky...otherwise, I'd be tempted to say Van Basten was better than Fletcher
They're just different
I can't believe this thread is still going on.
Can't we just agree that some of us have different opinions, and that we should respect the fact that those who think Ronaldo is better are wrong?
Can't we just agree that some of us have different opinions, and that we should respect the fact that those who think Ronaldo is better are wrong?
Nope
jasonrh said:
Certainly ... I agree with you there
Plechazunga said:
Seems like we can't enjoy what we have without getting into verbal handbags over 2 of our players. Ronaldo's over-diving is exagerrated so too the caricature of Rooney as a foul-tempered player with little magic. Some of the remarks made in an attempt to strengthen either position won't be out of place in a rival forum. I may be mistaken but say, the Dippers don't share the obsession of comparing Gerrard and Alonso at every opportunity.
Because no Liverpool fans think Alonso is as good as Gerrard...superb player though he is
Well, I can't speak for Warrington
Well, I can't speak for Warrington
Keilyn27 said:
Exactly. It's just that a Dipper may well speak up in defence of Alonso if several scousers constantly say they are a one man team in Gerrard. Simple.
Keilyn27 said:
So you admit he "over-dives" - a strange phrase you've just invented for no real reason - but you think his over-diving is exaggerated
Whatever that means, it's clear to anyone not unbelievably biased that he's one of the worst divers in the league
kanchleskis said:
Which of us has ever said we are a one-man team in Rooney?
yes
Rooney is better than Ronaldo. Do we all agree?
I think so, yes
Someone disagreed at one point, but I think he was gay
Someone disagreed at one point, but I think he was gay
Plechazunga said:
The whole nation pretty much. Every commentator every time we play, every pundit. It's worse when England play. And then every now and then, for no specific reason, a different retired great comes out and wanks over Rooney. Or the Times publishes another article, titled something like 'The world at his feet'. You might just get the impression we were a one man team.
An Extremely Boring Man said:
He most definetly is. Now that we established that, a LONG time ago, can we all accept that Ronaldo is a bit good too and the thread would be pretty much closed.
kanchelskis14 said:
Do you care what people say?
kanchelskis14 said:
Ronaldo is a good player with bags of potential
Has been pretty wank this season though
You might - if you were the type to get carried away with what idiots in the press said
Anyway your comment:
was clearly meant to draw a comparison between this made-up event and United fans saying the same about Rooney (which rarely if ever happens)
In other words, a load of bluster, born of your frustration at Ronaldo not having reached the same standard as Rooney - despite being brilliant, as everyone agrees.
Pointless
Plechazunga said:
And they don't have an obsession of showing up Alonso as inferior to Gerrard, probably out of realisation of the futility of it.
Plechazunga said:
Ronaldo's had periods of improvement and relapses. The way people carp about it, it's as if he never stops diving which'd be a poor indictment of the management since we're either very blind to it or secretly encouraging it.
Plechazunga said:
Well actually, you don't know everything. My comparison was borne out of the amount of criticism Ronaldo, and pretty much every United player other than Rooney and perhaps Van Der Saar gets from our fans. And your lying if you say 'everyone agrees' Ronaldo is brilliant. I'm not fecking mad, and wouldn't make this thread with such a title for no reason. I posted it because that is exactly what i felt was necessary to say after observing the caf lately, a reminder that they are both top players instead of one.
An Extremely Boring Man said:
Very true. He usually kicks on after christmas anyway, so fingers crossed.
kanchelskis14 said:
Rooney and van der Sar probably don't get criticised due to there being no reason to criticise them.
Just my guess like...
An Extremely Boring Man said:
Hmm, fair guess. But let's be honest, they are both human, and it isn't just them carryin us. Van der Saar made stupid errors against Boro, but we understood and maintained he was a good keeper. It's the general attitude to players. Rooney does most of the stuff Ronaldo gets slated for, but the difference is he usually gets applauded for trying it, and then creamed over for 'seeing' or 'sensing' it.
no one here has ever doubted ronaldo ability, but he been out of form recently, and its fustrating
but with the circumstance of what happened to him lately, i think people fully understand
but with the circumstance of what happened to him lately, i think people fully understand
An Extremely Boring Man said:
Not to mention that Ruud is the top scorer in the country and all that. People just seem to have random spurts of Rooney mania, even if there's been no game for days.
Keilyn27 said:
Similar to us then...they probably would, if faced with a load of muppets repeating that Alonso was as good as him, or claiming that you can't compare two players with different names, or something
I don't think the management gives a feck. It wins free kicks.
I do know everything, and I know what motivates you better than you do
You want Ronaldo to be better because your ideal of football is about individual skill and trickery. You want it to be more about that than other qualities like power, passion, guts, hardness, clapping the ref and kicking people
Unfortunately, life rarely conforms to our ideals
tengy said:
My point is people HAVE doubted him. You haven't read that he should be benched, or that Park is better, or he should be sold to Madrid at all? That is what i'm responding too. Just remindind those who say such of his ability, and the stuff that they used to say about him when he first arrived, or after his first season, or after the FA Cup finals (both), or after he showed Rooney up when wayne was at Everton ( i wish i could find a thread from after that game now)
kanchelskis14 said:
Rooney get praised because his general performances are very good, and very consistent. Same with van der Sar. Those two have by far been our two best players this season.
If Ronaldo, or anyone else, had performed to the same level, they would have received the same praise.
Plechazunga said:
Don't talk bollocks. You don't know all about me due to some comments i've made on here. I do prefer to watch Ronaldo play, as he is an entertainer and obviously, we all like entertainment. However, i acknowledge Rooney is better (for the millionth time). Again (for the two millionth time), who is better is not my point, my point is that Ronaldo is very good too, as opposed to being crap which is what you would have thought if you read this thread over the past month or two.
An Extremely Boring Man said:
Rooney get praised because his general performances are very good, and very consistent. Same with van der Sar. Those two have by far been our two best players this season.
If Ronaldo, or anyone else, had performed to the same level, they would have received the same praise.
They haven't been bar far our best performers, Ruud has been just as good. Not even subtracting from their abilities, just saying that Ronaldo is a good player, as he demontstrated against Pompey. Simple as really.
I know everything there is to know about you Kanchelskis. You are racist, and prefer footballers to be tricky fairies, which is more than a little gay.
kanchelskis14 said:
No, Ruud has banged in quite a few goals, but was not been on top of his game for the first 4-6 weeks of the season.
Ronaldo can be a good player. He hasn't been this season though.
As I say, I know more about what motivates you than you do
It's obvious
I reckon that's how you play yourself...and you're always getting bullied out of games by big hulking boys with heads like potatoes, and it drives you mad. Why can't they all just stop and appreciate your brilliance as you dance past them? But they don't...so you vent your rage on here, by implying Ronaldo's as good as Rooney when he isn't, and then backtracking.
It's obvious
I reckon that's how you play yourself...and you're always getting bullied out of games by big hulking boys with heads like potatoes, and it drives you mad. Why can't they all just stop and appreciate your brilliance as you dance past them? But they don't...so you vent your rage on here, by implying Ronaldo's as good as Rooney when he isn't, and then backtracking.