The players I'm most looking forward to seeing him link up with is Nani and Cleverley. Quick interchanging passing that will spin our opponents out.
Shinji Kagawa
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He is more of a goal threat then Özil and not quite as brilliant at passing as Özil but I think it's actually a good trade off.
Nasri is the best comparison I've heard so far from one of his Dortmund team mates
To be honest that performance was littered with several poor first touches. (Nothing to be worried about but it has to be said there was some poor touches against Jordan and Australia.) But the promising thing was despite the conditions it was easy to see how well he moved the ball around on the deck despite some poor touches.
He's very agile and reminds me of early Ji Sung Park. Pace and agility on the move.
I hope we give him the chance to play that free role behind Rooney, it's where he's looked most effective when I've seen him.
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Hahahaa I was on a table tennis trip to Palmerston north. Still, he got maybe 1 assist in 4-5 months. Biggie?
I wonder if he'll be in the first team right from the get go.
It's clear that with him we'll be playing a bit of a different system than usual (4-4-2), it'll be interesting to see if Fergie goes for it right from the off or sticks to 4-4-2 with Rooney - Welbeck/Hernandez and uses Kagawa as a sub to blend him in and get used to it.
It's clear that with him we'll be playing a bit of a different system than usual (4-4-2), it'll be interesting to see if Fergie goes for it right from the off or sticks to 4-4-2 with Rooney - Welbeck/Hernandez and uses Kagawa as a sub to blend him in and get used to it.
I just have a good feeling about this lad.
That's because he's feckin class. I can imagine him having a similar impact in the premiership as Silva
Looking forward to seeing him. Will he join the pre-season tour from the beginning?
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He reminds me of the Carrick signing in 06, a player of the exact specifications we need to help the other players around us play. Having such an intricate passer who is so creative is exactly what the likes of Welbeck, Hernandez and Rooney need for supply and our wingers need as a focal distraction to stop the defensive midfielder doubling up on them.
We are going to be playing some seriously attractive football next year.
We are going to be playing some seriously attractive football next year.
Is he going to do a Park and change his name to Kagawa Shinji after a couple years at the club? I will admit to being completely ignorant to Asian countries' naming customs, but I am still not sure if Park Ji-Sung or Ji-Sung Park is correct.
Park is Korean and Kagawa is Japanese, so no..itll very much be Shinji Kagawa.
I'm not sure Park ever changed it. English people just decided to Anglicise it. In Korea, the given name (Ji Sung) comes after the family name (Park), and it's traditional to refer to them by their family name. We just assumed that 'given name' means 'forename', hence it should come first, but it is Park Ji Sung.
Next year seems to be our last transition year. Our old guards will probably retire, the new boys will be well settled, we have a lot of attacking variety. If we get a long term Carrick/Evra replacement we'll be set for a while/ United games can't come soon enough!
Park Ji-Sung. Park is Korean and in their naming custom the family name goes first.
It's the same with Japanese names but for some reason the western naming custom is used at times when talking about a Japanese person so while Kagawa Shinji is correct in the Japanese naming custom, he is referred to as Shinji Kagawa.
Damo, I desperately need your help mate. Do you remember one of them RAWK idiots posting their 2011-12 line up with all sorts of insane nicknames and stuff? Like Colossus Caroll and Johnson the Marauder 
. I can't find it anywhere mate. Would you do the needful?
Oh and Shinji Kagawa is better than Messi.
. I can't find it anywhere mate. Would you do the needful? Oh and Shinji Kagawa is better than Messi.
Damo, I desperately need your help mate. Do you remember one of them RAWK idiots posting their 2011-12 line up with all sorts of insane nicknames and stuff? Like Colossus Caroll and Johnson the Marauder
Oh and Shinji Kagawa is better than Messi.
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/rawk-goes-into-meltdown-2010-2011-a-301126/index152.html#post9948188
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His name in Japanese is 香川真司, 香川 is Kagawa, 真司 is Shinji, so in Japanese, it is indeed Kagawa Shinji.
This!
The Red Devils first team coach has admitted he is excited by the Japan playmaker's pending summer arrival at Old Trafford from Borussia Dortmund and expects him to fit in well
United have successfully agreed a deal with Borussia Dortmund to bring the Japan international to the club in the summer, pending a medical and successful application for a work permit.
Kagawa began his career at J-League side Cerezo Osaka before plying his trade in the Bundesliga with Dortmund and securing two successive Bundesliga titles.
Meulensteen has been a significant admirer of the playmaker's performances and believes his side have signed a top-class attacking talent.
"I rank Kagawa very highly,” the coach told Goal.com.
"He’s a player that I've known for a while because I keep an eye on the German Bundesliga. He's done very well over there. I think he's a player that will fit Manchester United and complement us.
"At Dortmund, Kagawa played behind the striker which is a good position for him to play. He's got great movement, a great way to find spaces.
"He gets behind the opposition in the midfield which means that he can help in possession or be direct in moving forward. He can play the ball quick, one touch or two touch.
"He's got the complete package of what you would want from an attacking midfielder"
"He can create chances and he can score goals, he's got the complete package of what you would want from an attacking midfielder.
"He can also play on either wing or even deeper in the midfield. So, he's a very versatile player."
Kagawa has been extremely influential in Dortmund’s recent success, scoring 21 goals in 49 games as well as providing 12 assists.
United’s first team coach outlined how important it was for the Red Devils to add to their attacking options when considering the number of games the club compete in and believes their new signing can work well with the other attacking players currently in the squad.
"He is another good addition and a player who can score," Meulensteen added. "It's all about the players that we bring into focus. He will flow into the qualities that we have and his signing gives us more options.
"You play in the big leagues for so many games as well as the Champions League. We know how difficult it is. You need plenty of quality players and he is another."
But the Old Trafford staff member refused to be drawn on another playmaker, Eden Hazard, who United had been linked with heavily before his move to Chelsea.
"There will be more players that will come out from the media that are reportedly on Manchester United's radar," he said.
"These are usually players that are on the radars of all big clubs - so that's nothing new. The media, most of the time, just take it from there. I couldn't comment on whether we were interested.
"Regardless, Hazard has signed for Chelsea so that is a closed book for us."
United have successfully agreed a deal with Borussia Dortmund to bring the Japan international to the club in the summer, pending a medical and successful application for a work permit.
Kagawa began his career at J-League side Cerezo Osaka before plying his trade in the Bundesliga with Dortmund and securing two successive Bundesliga titles.
Meulensteen has been a significant admirer of the playmaker's performances and believes his side have signed a top-class attacking talent.
"I rank Kagawa very highly,” the coach told Goal.com.
"He’s a player that I've known for a while because I keep an eye on the German Bundesliga. He's done very well over there. I think he's a player that will fit Manchester United and complement us.
"At Dortmund, Kagawa played behind the striker which is a good position for him to play. He's got great movement, a great way to find spaces.
"He gets behind the opposition in the midfield which means that he can help in possession or be direct in moving forward. He can play the ball quick, one touch or two touch.
"He's got the complete package of what you would want from an attacking midfielder"
"He can create chances and he can score goals, he's got the complete package of what you would want from an attacking midfielder.
"He can also play on either wing or even deeper in the midfield. So, he's a very versatile player."
Kagawa has been extremely influential in Dortmund’s recent success, scoring 21 goals in 49 games as well as providing 12 assists.
United’s first team coach outlined how important it was for the Red Devils to add to their attacking options when considering the number of games the club compete in and believes their new signing can work well with the other attacking players currently in the squad.
"He is another good addition and a player who can score," Meulensteen added. "It's all about the players that we bring into focus. He will flow into the qualities that we have and his signing gives us more options.
"You play in the big leagues for so many games as well as the Champions League. We know how difficult it is. You need plenty of quality players and he is another."
But the Old Trafford staff member refused to be drawn on another playmaker, Eden Hazard, who United had been linked with heavily before his move to Chelsea.
"There will be more players that will come out from the media that are reportedly on Manchester United's radar," he said.
"These are usually players that are on the radars of all big clubs - so that's nothing new. The media, most of the time, just take it from there. I couldn't comment on whether we were interested.
"Regardless, Hazard has signed for Chelsea so that is a closed book for us."
I've got a feeling that Kagawa will become a player SAF finds impossible to not play in as many games as possible, pretty quickly.
Not sure why, just got a feeling.
Not sure why, just got a feeling.
Everyone has that feeling, because he looks quality and is being talked about by every other person as an extremely talented player, especially those who have played with or around him. You're responding to the hype, and a lot of that hype is justified.
I know but despite the hype, history tells you/me to take all hype with a pinch of salt until you've seen new signing play for your club yourself.
Countless examples of players hyped and not delivered.
But this one, I'm sure is a good one.
Rubbish. If Iniesta was coming to the club tomorrow, would we excuse the hype because he hasn't played for us yet? I see what you are saying, always best to take things with a pinch of salt, but at the same time, his ability is also clear to see.
My point is, it's really not surprising that so many are having 'good feelings', or 'feel excited' by him, because he is a quality player, and it's not down to some kind of mysterious gut feeling, but the knowledge that he is highly rated in the game.
My point is, it's really not surprising that so many are having 'good feelings', or 'feel excited' by him, because he is a quality player, and it's not down to some kind of mysterious gut feeling, but the knowledge that he is highly rated in the game.
I don't know enough about the German league to take his success there as proof he will very quickly become an undroppable player/one that SAF even tinkers with tactics to make sure he plays (that was my point as opposed to him just being good).
I don't know enough about the German league/him (other than You Tube vids) to come to that conclusion.
I didn't excuse the hype when we signed the likes of Veron and Berbatov (huge disappointment for me) so, personally, will do for everyone now.
Veron was world class in Italy while Berbatov had even done the business in the PL but even that was no guarantee of success.
I don't know enough about the German league/him (other than You Tube vids) to come to that conclusion.
I didn't excuse the hype when we signed the likes of Veron and Berbatov (huge disappointment for me) so, personally, will do for everyone now.
Veron was world class in Italy while Berbatov had even done the business in the PL but even that was no guarantee of success.
"He can also play on either wing or even deeper in the midfield. So, he's a very versatile player."
He can play deeper in midfield, just as I have been saying we will be planning for him to do at times.
He can play deeper in midfield, just as I have been saying we will be planning for him to do at times.
Both came to us older and more established in their ways. Both it could be argued, were not going to adjust much. More-so Berbatov because of the very specific way he plays, but Veron too.
Kagawa is a more rounded player able to do pretty much everything in his position and he's younger, less established (I guess), more versatile and hes younger so he has more time to learn before his prime.
I do think theres a danger of overhyping him before he even plays a game for us, especially when people keep mentioning Silva. I think expectations should be a bit lower than that and see how he adapts first. But I do know he'll be a brilliant player for us regardless of whether people are saying "Damn I wanted him to be our Silva" in 6 months time.
Heard his interview about the challenge, possibly SAF challenged Kaggy to try to beat the best player in the world in his position.... Wayne Rooney ?
Wayne Rooney isn't the best player in the world in any position.
Good news from our point of view...
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/kagawa-miss-olympics-130958015.html
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/kagawa-miss-olympics-130958015.html
Yep I heard about that. A shame for Kagawa as there was an interview with him around February time where he said he wanted to play in the Olympics, but I'm sure he understands and overall it's great news for us as he'll be able to have a full preseason with the team.
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