Shinji Kagawa

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Yes but we're comparing the role Peinaar does at Everton to the role Kagawa could do at United, which is on the left.


Why would that be? Rather see him behind the striker and Rooney on the left than the other way round.
 
Very disappointed in him not getting into the team, but I must say I'd sacrifice him for Gundogan in an instant.
 
Why would that be? Rather see him behind the striker and Rooney on the left than the other way round.

It's been a prevailing view in the thread although i don't know whether it is because people no longer think that Rooney could play there as he once did, or rather that he would refuse to do so.
 
Ah well didnt read through the whole thread. Well now you know my opinion on it.

I think most would like to see him behind the striker however the likelyhood is we won't see it very often because we have Rooney.
 
I think most would like to see him behind the striker however the likelyhood is we won't see it very often because we have Rooney.


Tbh they would interchange a lot during the game so strictly saying he would play on the left on Rooney through the middle wouldnt be right, but yeah chances are that he would be shifted more to the left.
 
Tbh they would interchange a lot during the game so strictly saying he would play on the left on Rooney through the middle wouldnt be right, but yeah chances are that he would be shifted more to the left.

They would interchange when attacking. However when defending the shape is very clear and whomever is playing on the left would have the responsibility of tracking the runner.
 
What I'm saying is, realistically if Kagawa wants to impose himself on this side and force his way into the first team it will be on the left. This has drawn many Peinaar comparisons.... and the conversation has done full circle :)
 
They would interchange when attacking. However when defending the shape is very clear and whomever is playing on the left would have the responsibility of tracking the runner.


I see your point and I agree. He isnt that good in that role defensively. But I don't know why Rooney wouldnt be able to do that job, especially defensively.
 
I see your point and I agree. He isnt that good in that role defensively. But I don't know why Rooney wouldnt be able to do that job, especially defensively.

I honestly don't think he's got the appetite for that kind of role anymore.
 
I'd hand in a transfer request if I were him. Barely gotten a look in since he came here, and often played out of position. What a waste.
 
I've received a lot of abuse for being a hopeless Kagawa fanboy, so there's no doubt that I like the player.

Still, I'm not gonna lose my cool just yet. Even if Moyes chose to exclude Kagawa from today's game, that doesn't mean that Kagawa is 100% match fit. Like I mentioned earlier in this thread: Moyes is particularly strict when it comes to fitness, and he's definitely gonna protect his players from getting "burned out" early in the season, if he believes that there's a genuine opportunity for this happening. Moyes has made a lot of interesting comments lately, also concerning Kagawa. I think that the most important comment is the one that people have chosen to ignore, namely the comment where he clearly says that Kagawa will feature in the up-coming games. Not this season, or even the near future. Moyes strikes me as a man who keeps his word, so it wont be long before Kagawa starts appearing in the starting XIs, slowly but surely. Maybe we're trying a new tactic this season? Last season Kagawa was thrown into the deep end and started pretty much every PL game for us until he got injured. This time, maybe we want to make sure that he's 100% ready, and then ease him into the team so that he can keep up the form he had in the last 25-30% of last season.

We've all seen what Kagawa can do. And if we can see it so easily, then so can Moyes. Let's give it some time, shall we? After all, we've had 3 incredibly rough games in a row now. There's still 35 games to go, with the vast majority of them being significantly easier than these games have been.
 
I would have left out Nani or TonyV for a fit Kagawa, thought he was missing due fitness/injury issue at first but this really was a strange move from Moyes.
 
I would have left out Nani or TonyV for a fit Kagawa, thought he was missing due fitness/injury issue at first but this really was a strange move from Moyes.
Giggs should never have played. He was completely out of place in a game of that pace and intensity. I'd have started drunk giraffe instead of him.
 
Giggs should never have played. He was completely out of place in a game of that pace and intensity. I'd have started drunk giraffe instead of him.

That's all well and good but Crouch doesn't play for us.
 
Starting to get worried that Shinji is not allowed now. Moyes is being quite cautious early doors and I hope it doesn't continue too long. Not only is Shinji not getting game time but the pre-season momentum for the likes of Lingard, Januzaj, Fabio and Zaha has also been killed.
 
Deadly strike force if you combine it with Rio hoof the ball mentality.
Yeah but for this master plan to work we need players who can lump to our own team mates. Rio thinks were playing pong most of the time.
 
And that's not bollocks, picture and everything. He apparently agreed he should have been playing when people said so, loads of people crowded round telling him to stay apparently.
 
Was this done from today
Kagawa will get opportunity

David Moyes has pledged that Shinji Kagawa and Wilfried Zaha will get their opportunity to impress in the coming weeks.
The Manchester United manager is also hoping to welcome Javier Hernandez back into the fold as the Mexican's fitness will be assessed ahead of the game at Liverpool.
Kagawa was an unused substitute against Chelsea while Zaha did not make the bench on Monday after both made positive contributions to the pre-season campaign.

"I’ve not had a chance to look at other things," explained the boss. "I’ve had to stick to the same group of players and go with it.
"Shinji came back late and that was the biggest problem for him. We had to give him a week off after he came back to play for us in Japan as well.
"Wilf is still getting to know this level so we’re happy with what we’ve got. I hope to use them as we go along. Hernandez has trained in the last few days and could be fit [for Sunday]. He doesn’t feel his hamstring now and is getting there. He’s just lacking game practice."
 
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Got to be bollocks because the guy who posted the picture was in Ireland at the time.
 
There's an international break coming up, so he's probably just heading to Japan for their games.
 
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