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Should Wenger be sacked?
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I dunno mateSeriously, I think it's more crucial for us when SAF was here and of course Arsenal now, because of the longevity of the managers. After that long, everything at club revolves around them. That kind of thing can be hard to move on from as what's happened/happening with us.
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Arsenal fans are going to lose it if he remains another year. Surely this season looks bad, even for their standards but with the squad seems to don't give a feck anymore so if he stays another season I think there are more chances of them performing even worst. He comes too arrogant sometimes, like if Arsenal was all about him and the fans were lucky to have him.
Wenger should be sacked! But there is a problem, if he is sacked, Arsenal will end up worse than United ended up after Fergie left; they may never recover from it
GeniusI don't think they're gonna hire Moyes as his successor for that matter...
Why would they not? All things considered, they have far more spending power than Spurs and Liverpool and this should tell in the long run. London club, big new stadium, no debt.... they got a lot going for them.
The Scousers recovered from King Kenny, Roy Hodgson and Brenda Rodgers. They brought a decent manager (albeit a bit of a lunatic) who's got them playing attacking football and contending for top 4 with not that high an expenditure.
If they avoid a "David Moyes" type of replacement, they'll be fine.
I don't think he'll leave on his own accord, and I think the rumours of him signing the new contract are very possible. However, the Arsenal fans really went for it tonight with the chanting, the Bellerin abuse and the bus. If he does stay, it's going to be toxic.
Wenger has to go anyway
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There are signs this season that Wenger is on his way out. First and the major sign is 12 first team Arsenal players have only one year left in their contract. This shows the players know something we dont. Another sign is his press confreneces. He seems tired and edgy most of the time not like he used to be. Even Ian Write believes this will be the managers last season. Finally not getting 4th this season, which seems very likey, will be the icing on the cake.
I highly doubt they'll recover considering the board at the helm of affairs; they seem to be more interested in the financial stability of the club and the maintenance of its financial policies, that's why they haven't sacked Wenger. If he is sacked, as long as the board doesn't start thinking like people running a football club, they'll go way down
SO are we
It's gone too far now. Fan power is winning here, they've voiced their concerns some of them for 2-3 years, but this season its got ugly, and I think he could well be on his way out in the summer.
I don't think the Arsenal board will be as concerned as the fans, long term they have everything in place for a great future. They are 1 good managerial appointment away from being a very dominant force. That being said, they are 1 Moyes away from having 5-10 years in the wilderness.
I don't think the Arsenal board will be as concerned as the fans, long term they have everything in place for a great future. They are 1 good managerial appointment away from being a very dominant force. That being said, they are 1 Moyes away from having 5-10 years in the wilderness.
Arsenal have been the 3rd highest spending club of the last 5 years behind only City and us. That's the reality. The rest, about financial stability and all that, are just buzzwords that keep getting repeated because of 10 years ago but are no longer applicable.
They spent 80m this summer. They spend the dosh. The board has shown ambition but Wenger has been trash in the transfer market. He has failed to sign quality and failed to inspire the players to a higher level of performance like he used to do.
Maybe the board has been slow in removing him, I can agree there, but he has been a legend there so it's not as easy. If However you give a decent manager this team and 80m to spend each summer then in 2 seasons they'd be title contenders.
Anyone know if Ozil is still flying to Italy to go clubbing? It was reported a lot when he was at Madrid, seeing his performances at times I oft do wonder if he is still doing the same bs.
Good point there; you're right and I agree with you
It's still such a refreshing sight when posters are capable of admitting they're wrong. Kudos to you my man
From what I read, they actually spent £90m. About the same as an Arsenal season ticket then.
Thanks alot
Arsenal are f*cked with a capital F.
No Champions League football means very little chance of signing a capable replacement for Alexis Sánchez who will most definitely be leaving.
Then you add in the hurt and pain that comes with Spurs finishing ahead of them for the 1st time.
There are no real leaders in the squad, while others will leave if they can sense a better deal elsewhere (Özil, The Ox, Bellerín).
No Champions League football means very little chance of signing a capable replacement for Alexis Sánchez who will most definitely be leaving.
Then you add in the hurt and pain that comes with Spurs finishing ahead of them for the 1st time.
There are no real leaders in the squad, while others will leave if they can sense a better deal elsewhere (Özil, The Ox, Bellerín).
If they don't finish in the top 4 and they don't spend the most out of any club this season they'll have completely dropped the ball. No CL football affects them more than City/Us/Chelsea since we have been more likely to throw money to fix problems. Yes they spend a lot but no CL football will affect their targets (their wages are way lower right?) and the players they're likely to lose will be near impossible to replace.
Sanchez, Ozil (shadow of his former self but yeah), and Bellerin will likely all be gone.
Sanchez, Ozil (shadow of his former self but yeah), and Bellerin will likely all be gone.
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Look at that sad old man..walking cliche of himself.
What a sorry excuse for a football club. Arsenal are fast becoming an embarrassment. Thrashed 3-0 by Crystal Palace, a team trying to fight off relegation? It's clear that Arsenal have waved the white flag, it's a club in complete disarray. No pride. No passion. I can't imagine Sanchez and Ozil having many suitors now. Arsenal have become a nothing club. You can't call yourselves a big club and get utterly outclassed by Crystal Palace like that. What a shambles.
Would winning the fa cup change anyone's perception?
Similar to the LvG situation last year.
Similar to the LvG situation last year.
They're not beating City. Trophyless season for them.
Wenger has already signed a new deal.
I wanted Van Gaal gone before the final, and I didn't change my opinion when Lingard scored the winner. A bit sick at the fact that United have to do it, yes, but i still wanted him gone.
I bet the Wenger Out brigade would feel the same way as I did.
No they wouldn't. People said the similar things about United if Fergie were to leave, having a 'decent squad' (which may be a crap squad in another managers eyes) and money to spend doesn't guarantee anything. Without Wenger this Arsenal side would be in an even worse situation, and if they hire an new manager a huge rebuild will be required.
We are not winning it in any case.
Arsenal played right into Big sam's hands.
Lvg dint win much and was boring too but his principles of play will help us a lot in the future, He Showed us something very valuable right before Pep and Klopp came in the league.
Absolutely loving this. That is what you call a total capitulation and an untenable, toxic atmosphere at a club. No way back from this for Wenger or the board.
I suspect he's staying and there will be ructions there next year. He will lose a couple of his best players, his horrible transfer record of late will mean they aren't replaced adequately. And the board will be happy with renewed season tickets.
A similar situation to us around the Moyes period - we suspected our board was content to be moderately good and finish top 4 while spending bare minimum. They eventually proved us wrong, financially.
Arsenal's board, won't spend. Guaranteed. Not enough to get them where their fans want them to be.
Toxic, toxic situation over there and I'm loving it. All the laughter from that lot about Moyes and LVG and even Jose.
I suspect he's staying and there will be ructions there next year. He will lose a couple of his best players, his horrible transfer record of late will mean they aren't replaced adequately. And the board will be happy with renewed season tickets.
A similar situation to us around the Moyes period - we suspected our board was content to be moderately good and finish top 4 while spending bare minimum. They eventually proved us wrong, financially.
Arsenal's board, won't spend. Guaranteed. Not enough to get them where their fans want them to be.
Toxic, toxic situation over there and I'm loving it. All the laughter from that lot about Moyes and LVG and even Jose.
What's funny about this new deal stuff is that if it's true (I'm sure it is) it shows how wrong it is by the fact they won't announce it. They're aware it will piss so many people off surely that is a time to think it isn't the right decision.
Whilst it is entertaining to see and massive stubborness from Wenger I do kind of feel sorry for him, it's sad to see claims he has nothing else in his life except his job really.
Arsenal are in terminal decline under Wenger and the type of player they have invested in are generally soft as shite and incapable of rolling up their sleeves in a battle. Not a bit of wonder Sanchez looks exasperated at times. The atmosphere among their fans is poisonous at times, if Wenger stays that is only going to worsen. The problem they have is that he is in full control of the club at the moinute and if he leaves then who makes the decisions in terms of the next appointment etc as the board does not have the people with footballing knowledge required to make the correct decisions. Much in the same way that Woodward is the decision maker with us, they do not have the type of David Dein figure needed to guide the club through what could be a tough transitional period. I can see them going through a phase of finishing 6/7th for a few years to come unless they appoint a CEO type figure with the necessary nous to make the correct appointments. More importnat than the mangerial appointment will be the appointment of the person charged with the overall running of the club. ie the one charged with finding Wengers successor. If they learn anything from us it is that Wenger should have no input into any such decision and they need to make a clean break from Wenger and avoid any sentimentality.
Good stuff from Stewart Lee there.
Exactly.
The fact that they're afraid to announce he's staying because it'll infuriate the fans is surely a sign it's the wrong decision?
I cannot wait to see how they try and PR spin Wenger staying into good news. The press conference or press release when they announce it should be hilarious.
I think they're praying the FA Cup would present them a nice opportunity to announce the deal.
He'll be announced as 'Carson Wanger' and will wear a fake moustache.