So we have Bayern

NoLogo said:
We have a few Germans on here myself included. @Balu is a Bayernfan on here who probably is also on a Bayern-forum maybe you should ask him.
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Nope, I'm a fulltime Caf junkie now. And I really hate all Bayern forums. I could do it in theory, but we have at least 5 German Bayern fans on the Caf who already share their opinions, isn't that enough?
 
I'm quite tempted with the 20/1 on offer for Bayern to win by 5 or more next Tuesday.
 
Balu said:
Nope, I'm a fulltime Caf junkie now. And I really hate all Bayern forums. I could do it in theory, but we have at least 5 German Bayern fans on the Caf who already share their opinions, isn't that enough?
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Why do you guys think us Bayern blokes are here in the first place? Most football forums, especially the german ones I know, are carcinogenic cesspits...
 
You cannot loose this tie...

The US Americans believe in you... ;)

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I don't think there is any point in turning up but I fear that is exactly what we are going to do.
 
I think we willl be okay and might even come out with a surprise victory if Moyes figures out how to incorporate Jones, Welbeck, Giggs, Rooney, Nani/Januzaj and Kagawa into our midfield/attack. Moreover, I do not believe a conservative approach will be the right one.

Looking at our squad, I can not believe with all the midfielders we have, the one most capable of putting in a noteworthy performance is Giggs(a converted midfielder) and Jones (a center back). It really speak of our quality in the midfield department.
 
Balu said:
Nope, I'm a fulltime Caf junkie now. And I really hate all Bayern forums. I could do it in theory, but we have at least 5 German Bayern fans on the Caf who already share their opinions, isn't that enough?
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Hehe, true :D All that i found were full of nitwits or/and run by muppets. So what was the question? :)

If you want my opinion on that tie, i probably see it more ambivalent than most of the United supporters here do. This is a CL quarter final with 8 out of the 10-12 best teams on the continent, and yes, United is one of them.
I do think United still has a lot of quality in the squad and are actually capable to keep up with the best teams, on a good day. Obviously the team is struggling in the moment, but that was to be expected. (Reminds me a bit of Werder after Rehagel). Not team can be run by an icon like Ferguson for decades and make the transition to a new manager unscratched. Too many players are still personally attached to Sir Alec and subconsciously offended by change, and this is not even Moyes' fault (although a more established coach might have had less trouble getting everyone on his side). Not even Pep van Mourinho would have done that easily.

I know the Bayern players were all respectful after the draw, but for me it had a hint of "yeah that is settled, now who could we get in the half final" subtone to it - and this is something that was pretty dangerous for them in the past. They don't have that defianceness any more that defined them last year. They play arguably better football, but might be lulled by most opponents rolling over before the game has started. I'm pretty certain the United players won't do that - it is their chance to make an impression in a otherwise pretty fecked up season.
Bayern obviously are clear favourites for the tie, but i recon the chances are 70/30, not 99/1. Not having van Persie is a big blow, though.
 
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I'm surprised only 84% think we'll lose this... Quite an optimistic bunch we have on here :lol:
That just highlights the gap between the two sides IMO. That 84% of us thinking we'll lose at home in the champions league quarters seems a bit low.
 
I would say these ties are always closer than expected, especially in the latter stages of the Champions League.

But then I remember how Bayern completely destroyed a Barca side that was in much better health (albeit Messi was injured) than us last season.

I'm guessing Bayern will show us a lot more respect than we deserve but we'll still be comprehensively beaten over the two legs.

The German sides have poor records at home against English opposition so that's some small crumb of comfort to hang onto.
 
Bazi said:
I understand it is easier to cope with a defeat by playing down United's chances in advance, but I expect it to be a tight game. Huge score-lines almost never happen when you expect them, least at such a stage. Bayern München will play with a lot more caution than in the Bundesliga, they always do in the Champions League.

One or two moments of brilliance at the right time from Rooney & Co. and it could become a very thrilling encounter.

On a side-note I would worry a lot more about the 1st than the 2nd leg, considering Bayern's incredible form away from home and their past struggles at the Allianz Arena in 2nd legs.
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While I agree with this sentiment, but ... we just had two 0-3 losses on a tight game (city and liverpool), I doubt anything will change much
 
Both Bayern and Barca were professional in their last away legs. 0-2 wins, 2 away goals as security. No need to risk injury or tiredness with the job done, then do what's needed in the home leg.
They can both deny you the ball when they need to.
My money would be 0-2 Bayern.
 
verminater said:
Both Bayern and Barca were professional in their last away legs. 0-2 wins, 2 away goals as security. No need to risk injury or tiredness with the job done, then do what's needed in the home leg.
They can both deny you the ball when they need to.
My money would be 0-2 Bayern.
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Why would they do that though? It's not like they need to exert everything they have, they could just stroll around and really hurt us while being in the 2nd gear.

You're underestimating the Germans if you think they'll take 2-0 as buffer, 5-0 probably. But any decent team with a professional attitude will want as much goal as they can possibly and reasonably get
 
I just get the feeling we will turn up for this match at OT. Definitely feel it will be close and not as lopsided as some on here think. It's a CL QF knockout match. Bayern will not come out all guns blazing in the first leg, that too away from home. They will keep the ball and then try to pick us off.
My main worry is if we concede early. I can then see us getting taken apart on the counter. If we can somehow manage to score first, we MIGHT just hang on.

But again, this is based on nothing to be fair. I had the same feeling when we lined up against Liverpool and City. Didn't turn out too well that!
 
i think "bayern vs arsenal" indicates, that bayern plays a bit more cautious in the CL. If they have a good day and get an early goal, it might become painful, but I expect a very controlled 0:2. It also might become a character test for the United players. If they hang their heads after being down by 1 or 2 goals could get punished.

edit: I agree with the other german members on the quality of german football forum. I cant stand all the idiots. nice to be a caf full member. :)
 
We got outclassed by Pep twice when our team was arguably better then our current lot, as well as having Fergie to manage them. We've got no chance this time.
 
If we drop points against Villa and that plane with a new banner indeed flies over the Old Trafford, I am hoping to see Giggs in the dugout for the Bayern game.
 
Water Melon said:
If we drop points against Villa and that plane with a new banner indeed flies over the Old Trafford, I am hoping to see Giggs in the dugout for the Bayern game.
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Can you imagine the psycological boost the players will get knowing no more Moyes. We might even not get raped by Bayern.
 
Floyd said:
Can you imagine the psycological boost the players will get knowing no more Moyes. We might even not get raped by Bayern.
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Sacking Moyes now will give us a tiny chance against Bayern, with him in charge, it'd be more likely to see Iran win the WC.
 
verminater said:
Both Bayern and Barca were professional in their last away legs. 0-2 wins, 2 away goals as security. No need to risk injury or tiredness with the job done, then do what's needed in the home leg.
They can both deny you the ball when they need to.
My money would be 0-2 Bayern.
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For me it was not understandable that Pep did not start Müller for the second leg against Arsenal. He had very good runs the 3 matches before scoring 5 goals and 2 assists and already had not started the first leg.

When Guardiola was asked for that he told that Müller for sure would have started if he would have needed a result after a loss or a tie in the first match. That he especially wanted ball control or the team to control the match.

So yes, I am not sure if Guardiola would go for big results as that always means a bit more risk, too - or if he just would go for convenient results and control...
 
Cal? said:
Sacking Moyes now will give us a tiny chance against Bayern, with him in charge, it'd be more likely to see Iran win the WC.
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I actually wouldn't even put it at a tiny chance. I'd give us a fair chance, although still well below 50% obviously. This squad is not a bad one. It has the potential to play very good football. Unfortunately I a) don't think we'll sack Moyes before the end of the season barring an even more disastrous run - and b) think we left it too late for it to make much of a difference.

That said, even with the latter in mind, simply the act of sacking Moyes would provide a boost to the players, never mind the tactic and training side of it.
 
We'll try to play for a 0-0, and hope for a heroic counter-attack.

They'll play like City, 15 minutes of walking all over us, and then a long snooze. Repeat.

No idea what the score will be.
 
If United park the bus, they will get trounced. It doesn't work. The only way you can really hurt us is to adopt the Dortmund-approach that Arsenal and more recently Mainz tried: Pressure the feck out of us as early and win the ball as far up the pitch as possible, then attack. If Moyes is brave and tries this approach, United has a chance (if they score early). If he goes with the same "gameplan" he used against City, it might well turn into a massacre.
 
Piratesoup said:
If United park the bus, they will get trounced. It doesn't work. The only way you can really hurt us is to adopt the Dortmund-approach that Arsenal and more recently Mainz tried: Pressure the feck out of us as early and win the ball as far up the pitch as possible, then attack. If Moyes is brave and tries this approach, United has a chance (if they score early). If he goes with the same "gameplan" he used against City, it might well turn into a massacre.
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I don't think Moyes has the bollocks to try something this adventurous. He can't get over the mentality that he's forged over the last decade which dictates him to play it safe, first and foremost. However, if he does try to take the game to Bayern and gets rid of his negative approach for the biggest game of our season, so far, I just might be inclined towards showing him a tiny bit of support.
 
We don't have the players (midfielders) to press high up the pitch, we're going to have to park the bus.
 
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