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The Deep Blue Sea - No, not the one with Samuel L. Jackson swimming around with sharks. This one's a glossy and moody period piece about a doomed relationship. It had it's good moments but there was just something wrong about it that I just can't put my finger on...it was a bit dry and lacking in substance I guess. It was, however, impeccably acted (Rachel Weisz looked stunning too) but I also had a slight problem with the score which I thought was blasted at inappropriate times.
Le Boucher - A very unnerving psychological thriller that might appear simple on the surface but is actually a quite complex and subtle piece. It's about a lonely school teacher who befriends a peculiar butcher in a rural town, their relationship or lack of ignites sparks that wreak havoc on the town. I thought it was masterfully directed, can definitely see the Hitchcock comparisons with Chabrol.
Le Boucher - A very unnerving psychological thriller that might appear simple on the surface but is actually a quite complex and subtle piece. It's about a lonely school teacher who befriends a peculiar butcher in a rural town, their relationship or lack of ignites sparks that wreak havoc on the town. I thought it was masterfully directed, can definitely see the Hitchcock comparisons with Chabrol.
Ahhh... Watch Solyaris, it's more popcorn.
And wasn't directed by a robot!
Think yourself lucky you didn't watch it aged 10, because Blazing Saddles was an AA!
I have since grown to love it, but that was heavy for a kid.
Kubrick a robot?
No love for Kubrick?
Kubrick a robot?
More of a characteristic than a criticism. His style could be described as cold and sterile.
He's alright. I think A Clockwork Orange and Full Metal Jacket are terribly overrated but I like the rest of his oeuvre.
Clooney right? I'll give it a go. I think watching 2001 while high was a bad idea. It's was utterly captivating, but I have no idea why. Reflecting on it this morning is giving me a better understanding certainly.
No, Tarkovsky's original.
Didn't know there was one, will do.
As a side note, the blu-ray transfer of 2001 is incredible.
It makes no sense and has the emotional depth of a Happy Meal TM.
The Shining was his best film and I didn't think that was much good. Or rather a pale shadow of the film that it should have been with such a good book/plot to work with and he turned it into a chase/slasher/horror.
As for his other films
It's the ascent of man.
Intelligent beings left an Obelisk which kickstarts human evolution.
When man gets to space, he finds another.(a milestone of his progress) This is when HAL, the computer, realises that this evolutionary ffwd could be of use to it, and sets about the task of destroying its "Creator" in a race to harness the power of the obelisk.
That's how I see it, but Kubrik made it deliberately ambiguous.
I have yet to read the book, but I believe it fills in some blanks.
My Christmas prezzie to myself, I think.
Thanks for the reminder.
I think thats pretty much right on everything except HAL's reasons for what it does.
I don't think its that calculated its more a case of when they designed something with artificial intelligence they failed to take into account the most important instinct that intelligence gives and that is the knowledge of ones own mortality, therefore when threatened with death HAL responds in a way that is both human and inhuman at the same time.
He responds in a way that is all about self preservation with the knowledge that once disabled he will cease to exist but he lack any concept of human compassion or conscience which is evident in how he kills with a complete lack of compassion of remorse.
Even the scene where he pleads for his life is less about what he has done and more about self preservation.
I don't think its that calculated its more a case of when they designed something with artificial intelligence they failed to take into account the most important instinct that intelligence gives and that is the knowledge of ones own mortality, therefore when threatened with death HAL responds in a way that is both human and inhuman at the same time.
He responds in a way that is all about self preservation with the knowledge that once disabled he will cease to exist but he lack any concept of human compassion or conscience which is evident in how he kills with a complete lack of compassion of remorse.
Even the scene where he pleads for his life is less about what he has done and more about self preservation.
Yeah. I may have given Hal more credit than I should. Self-preservation is a big motivator.
I gave my son the Dvd, with the intention of getting the Bluray. (and now the book)
But I haven't bought it yet, so I'm relying on a poor memory.
How "New" does it still look by the way?
I gave my son the Dvd, with the intention of getting the Bluray. (and now the book)
But I haven't bought it yet, so I'm relying on a poor memory.
How "New" does it still look by the way?
I have to say I haven't seen it on Bluray however i'm not sure how much better it can get as its beautifully shot in the first place and looks great on my DVD copy.
I'd definitely like to see though.
I'd definitely like to see though.
Sounds good!
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/453/2001aspaceodyssey.html
Bamsola, have you seen Silent Running?
I told my daughter's fella to go for it when he was looking at the Bluray.
He was blown away. I know it left it's mark on me, when I first saw it.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/453/2001aspaceodyssey.html
Bamsola, have you seen Silent Running?
I told my daughter's fella to go for it when he was looking at the Bluray.
He was blown away. I know it left it's mark on me, when I first saw it.
Silent Running is brilliant. So sad at that bit
when the little robot gets blown off the ship.
That actually does sound excellent and in any case my DVD copy is about 12 years old and needs replacing soon so I might just take a closer look.
Edit: I'll not get much support for this but i've always found Silent Running to be a very overrated movie.
Decent yes, but not much more. I just think the main character comes across a a bit retarded but I have only watched it twice and will be going back to watch it as it seems that just about everybody got more out of it than I did.
I also do not like the soundtrack i'm afraid.......................
Edit: I'll not get much support for this but i've always found Silent Running to be a very overrated movie.
Decent yes, but not much more. I just think the main character comes across a a bit retarded but I have only watched it twice and will be going back to watch it as it seems that just about everybody got more out of it than I did.
I also do not like the soundtrack i'm afraid.......................
Never looked at a rating for it.
Yes Grinner it had me crying.
Try explaining that to your parents, as a teenager.
"...over what?"
His earlier stuff wasn't cold though. And if he's cold and sterile, then surely the likes of Haneke and Tarkovsky are too?
I haven't seen the DVD, but the bluray rip i downloaded was very good. I didn't get the feeling at all that I was watching a movie made over 40 years ago.
It looked easily as new as any blu-ray from the 90s certainly, of course its not quite on par with anything from the last 10 years.
Bebe, What size was the rip?
I think Kubrick and Tarkovsky couldn't be further from each other. Tarkovsky's films are filled with spirituality, nostalgia, memory, love of nature and ones homeland, the human soul...very human feelings.
It could be argued about Haneke, yes, but he went against his reputation with the masterful Amour.
No doubt have already been reviewed:
Lincoln
Spielberg's account of the end of the US civil war and Abraham Lincoln's machinations in the successful effort to pass the constitutional amendment to abolish slavery. Surely an Oscar winning performance by Day Lewis.
9/10
Anna Karenina
The latest Keira Knightley costume drama pic. Not sure what Tolstoy would make of it: colourful and lavish sets, very stylised interpretation, not very sympathetic portrayal of the lead character.
6/10
Lincoln
Spielberg's account of the end of the US civil war and Abraham Lincoln's machinations in the successful effort to pass the constitutional amendment to abolish slavery. Surely an Oscar winning performance by Day Lewis.
9/10
Anna Karenina
The latest Keira Knightley costume drama pic. Not sure what Tolstoy would make of it: colourful and lavish sets, very stylised interpretation, not very sympathetic portrayal of the lead character.
6/10
1 gig give or take. Obviously not a proper BluRay rip, but still looked very crisp and not at all out of date.
There's no emotion or human feelings in Lolita, Strangelove or Clockwork Orange?
I wouldn't say they are bursting with emotional depth, no. Haven't seen Lolita in years mind, so I don't remember much about it.
Oh dear, even Kubrick is not good enough for movie buffs anymore.
I haven't stated a dislike, but due to his films lack of emotional engagement...I admire them more than I love them.
It's the ascent of man.
Intelligent beings left an Obelisk which kickstarts human evolution.
When man gets to space, he finds another.(a milestone of his progress) This is when HAL, the computer, realises that this evolutionary ffwd could be of use to it, and sets about the task of destroying its "Creator" in a race to harness the power of the obelisk.
That's how I see it, but Kubrik made it deliberately ambiguous.
I have yet to read the book, but I believe it fills in some blanks.
My Christmas prezzie to myself, I think.
Thanks for the reminder.
But that is all complete and utter bollocks. So bollocks built on bollocks.
I think you're confusing his post 2001 work with his earlier stuff. As for Tarkovsky and Haneke...the way they framed scenes. Very similar to Kubrick.
And Wibbs, you hate films.
His later style is very apparent in The Killing and Paths of Glory. He pretty much had the same distinctive style his whole career, it just got grander. Spartacus was different but that was pretty much Douglas' film.
Fair enough. I love Strangelove more than any other movie. . I disagree with your point about Kubrick's movie not being emotionally engaging. The layer of dark humour over Paths of Glory or Strangelove does not take away from the seriousness of subject being depicted.
Besides, exploring spirituality or human emotions is just one genre or theme on which movies can be based. I Love Tarkovskiy's Stalker for all its style and themes it tackles. But equally love Hitchcock's masterclass in story telling in Rear window or execution of a very simple thesis in Rope.
I don't disagree with any of that. His films are not totally void of evocativeness but compared to other filmakers he can come across as a bit cold with the sterile sets and all!
Yeah lets ignore the large majority of critics/people who have called it one of most important science fiction movies ever made and go with your analysis shall we.
Hmm, am reminded of The Emperor's New Clothes...
Yes. The King's new clothes.
Although here is a very sensible bit from the Washington Post review.