The Saudi Takeover Rumor Thread

[beedoubleyou]

But you do want to be associated with americans who have the most miltary bases around the world... oh and a little detail... who have contributed largely to the destabilization of the middle- east (and hence the rise of extremism)..

A painfully thick comment.

Find a United fan who wants or wanted The Glazers.

I only hope this was supposed to be funny

 

[Foxbatt]

But we are not selling it to them. They have enough troubles on their own without trying to buy a football club like United with all its name and popularity.

 

[Castia]

I’d fecking love it.

 

[Moriarty]

Years ago, when Louis Edwards (Martin’s Dad) owned the club, the Bitters were banging on about him supplying dodgy meat to schools and profitting from it. He was in Wholesale and meat packaging and had most of the contracts for schools, hospitals etc. So whoever owns United will be controversial. As for the Saudi’s, it would clearly just be a vehicle to try and rub the Emirates noses in the crap. I’m sure if you delve deep enough into the owners of the top clubs in Europe, there will be some skeletons in the closet.

Not just the bitters. A lot of United supporters (my dad and granddad included) never spoke a good word about Louis Edwards. Stories of bribery and corruption were legion (Edwards & Sons being banned from buying shares, bribing Peter Lorimer's parents to get the boy to Old Trafford, flogging condemned meat after paying bribes to get the contract) and were well-documented by Granada Television. If Louis Edwards hadn't died, he would surely have faced charges and possibly have done time. He never faced trial so any allegations made by Granada were dismissed by the club as petty malice, but the stench remained.

 

[LazyRed-Ninja]

Using that logic, should Chelsea fans feel tainted because the Russians poisoned those people in Wiltshire? Leicester fans should boycott their club because of human rights violations in Thailand. Everton fans should give because their owner is Iranian and they sponsor terrorism all over the World. Can you suggest anyone that’s perfect?

Ref Man City owners. They are cheating by avoiding FFP and alledgely some players and former Managers avoiding income tax by not declaring the true figures financial or indeed attendances as it turns out.

Read the explanation of that comment. Its sarcastic in nature. All is fine.

 

[Zlatattack]

Having read all the arguements, i think we should sell our soul for oil money. The pay off will be immense in terms of muppetry dreams come true.

 

[LazyRed-Ninja]

I didn't say anything. Anyways, the point is that people have a problem with Saudi royal family taking over.

Personally, I wouldn't be too sad about it. The oil money is here to stay. None of FIFA, UEFA, FA are interested in anymore than lip service.

Could have been a comment from another poster then. Edit: that comment was from @andycolegangstainnit

Ah well, the Glazers did business with Bush back in their oil business days and the Bush family itself has blood on their hands, so it wont be the first time the Glazers do business with heinous people. Didnt intend to make this a political discussion.

I agree, oil many wont leave this sport any time soon.

 

[vanderpants]

Id hate this to happen, id rather we stick we the glazers. Id pack my season ticket in if the Saudis bought us...... Good job its a load of bullshit and rumours isn't it!

 

[sunama]

If this happens I can't in good faith spend any money towards the club, this is one of the few red lines for me unfortunately.

When we are winning the the EPL, CL and other trophies, you'll be the the one at the front of the queue buying all the merchandise that there is available.

If the Saudis take over, they'll want instant results. We won't be waiting 5 years for a title, that's for sure. This will be a vanity project and they'll spend as much money necessary on the team and infrastructure to enable us to compete with any team on the planet.

Good job its a load of bullshit and rumours isn't it!

Like you, I don't believe that this will happen, either.

 

[stevoc]

It is actually. A lot of people from the UK go there to work and even to go on holiday (shock horror)!
As long as you don't steal, rape or do anything indecent, you'll love it.
Of course, if you are criminal, then I do agree, it's not a good place to practise your trade.

Yeah you'll be fine as long as you don't steal, rape, be gay or Dab. All the usual activities criminals get up to, i'm sure its a lovely place to visit.

 

[LazyRed-Ninja]

A painfully thick comment.

Find a United fan who wants or wanted The Glazers.

I only hope this was supposed to be funny

Do people even bother to read these days? That comment was a sarcastic response to a comment which stated ‘dont want to be associated with those guys’, which i understood as saudi as a whole. All is fine.

 

[Gentleman Jim]

I understand where you're coming from, but I'm gonna disagree on this one.

Our owners, and the way they 'bought' the club are anomalously bad in modern football - laughable even.

We need to get rid of them, and the only prospective buyers in this day and age of a club with so much worth will be characters like the Saudis.

The human-rights crimes in Saudi are disgraceful - but them buying United wouldn't mean that you support those crimes. Just as being owned by the Glazers doesn't mean that you support their particular brand of extremo-capitalism scamming.

Nor does it mean that you support the actions of every single sponsor that the Glazers and Woodward continually align our club to in order to make themselves more money.

In fact, you could argue that buying United would attract much more attention on the human rights violations in Saudi Arabia (which it would).

I also feel, it would be good, in the name of fairness to have a football media who would have to choose between continuing to turn a blind eye to everything true of Citeh's ownership, or to do the same with United's (which they wouldn't be able to do).

Bottom line is - we are a massive, massive club being run so badly that it's almost surreal.

We need to have owners who put into the club and are hungry for real success - why should we tolerate an ownership like the Glazers? What other big clubs do / would?

And what other big club would tolerate footballing decisions like those that have, and continue to take place under the Glazers / Woodward?

Three little letters undo all the dozens of posts you've wasted on decrying City's owners.
There is no but in this matter.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

I can't ignore the feeling that people are being hugely ignorant here. I've read comments saying "uh no, feck them" - is it because they are from Saudi Arabia? They are business men who've made a fortune and want to invest in our club.

I bet half the people in this place would hardly react at all if you replaced "Saudis" with "Romanians" or "Peruvians".

A degree of racism perhaps?

No doubt there will be people her who may have valid reasons to be fair, just think that there's a few who have just gone 2+2 and thought "Uh, no they are corrupt as shit - I don't want to be a plastic club".

 

[spontaneus1]

Surely if the Saudi's are really interested, they would just buy up the 10% of the club on the market already?

They are non voting options I believe.

 

[FujiVice]

A degree of racism perhaps?

You dont seem to have a clue what racism is.

 

[Raven]

The only tangible difference is we'll have lots of money and owners that actually want us to win.

The Saudi regime will just have more attention drawn to it, which again isn't a bad thing (although are they really that bad in the grand scheme of regimes anyway?).

I have my fingers crossed for this.

Yes. Second only to Israel.

 

[decorativeed]

How can you say it's nothing to do with money? How do you know?

Because any idiot can see that we are spending money. We've spent hundreds of millions of it in the last five years. We've just spent it badly, and at the whim of three different managers with three different visions (or lack of, in at least one case).

It's most probably about money, why else would they knowingly run the club like they do? I mean what else rather than shire stupidity, because the current wage structure or transfer spending is not sustainable unless we also get our act together in the footballing part.

Incompetence and ineptitude. That's all it comes down to. We've hardly got a football person to be found on the board of directors.

And you see, maybe for you Manchester United is just about bragging rights, not for me. It's more than that, but you have different footballing fans I suppose.

For me, as someone who lives a 30 minute walk from the ground and count friends and family amongst the staff of the club, it's about my daily life. It's not about wiping the floor with everyone we face, shiny trophies and star signings. The club is a part of my community and it don't want it to become another plaything of a corrupt state's ruling family

And please don't lecture me about basic human rights from the comfort the same government provides you, while they sell weapons to the Saudis. What have you ever done about human rights when your own government bombed innocent women and children in the last half 60-70 years? I don't lecture others about moral high grounds, I just can't switch and choose when my morals work. I gave up on that long ago.

You don't have morals mate, you already admitted as much. And don't make me go through that bollocks again. I don't set my government's agenda, and I can't really do much about things that happened decades before I was born. It's of no relevance to this thread either, it's just you pathetically grasping at straws as you don't have a leg to stand on having said you don't care about public executions, institutional sexism and extremism.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Three little letters undo all the dozens of posts you've wasted on decrying City's owners.
There is no but in this matter.

Before you were bought by your sheik, how long ago was your last trophy...? And how many trophies had you won in the previous 10 years...?

And if we were taken over right now - how long ago was ours? And how many trophies have won in the last 10 years?

Don't bother replying without answering these questions.

 

[klsv]

I bet half the people in this place would hardly react at all if you replaced "Saudis" with "Romanians" or "Peruvians".

No country is perfect but

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/saudi-arabia
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/peru

 

[Gentleman Jim]

Before you were bought by your sheik, how long ago was your last trophy...? And how many trophies had you won in the previous 10 years...
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And if we were taken over right now - how long ago was ours? And how many trophies have won in the last 10 years?
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Don't bother replying without answering these questions.

I've answered your questions, so what's your point? Any fool could have Googled the answer.
You have clumsily avoided the issue that I was making. I stated that your use of the word "but" in your previous post is incompatible with your previous stance.

Do you not agree?

 

[Kaos]

When we are winning the the EPL, CL and other trophies, you'll be the the one at the front of the queue buying all the merchandise that there is available.

If the Saudis take over, they'll want instant results. We won't be waiting 5 years for a title, that's for sure. This will be a vanity project and they'll spend as much money necessary on the team and infrastructure to enable us to compete with any team on the planet.



Like you, I don't believe that this will happen, either.

Then you don’t know me. The contempt I have for the Saudi royal family has no equal. I’d see no qualms about ceasing to support the club I’ve loved for 28 years, that’s how much I despise them.

 

[decorativeed]

Yeah you'll be fine as long as you don't steal, rape, be gay or Dab. All the usual activities criminals get up to, i'm sure its a lovely place to visit.

Or protest, or publicly hold a different opinion to their overlords.

 

[Random Task]

I've answered your questions, so what's your point? Any fool could have Googled the answer.
You have clumsily avoided the issue that I was making. I stated that your use of the word "but" in your previous post is incompatible with your previous stance.

Do you not agree?

He's just trying to justify the situation, like you and every City fan on the planet do on a daily basis.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

It is actually. A lot of people from the UK go there to work and even to go on holiday (shock horror)!
As long as you don't steal, rape or do anything indecent, you'll love it.
Of course, if you are criminal, then I do agree, it's not a good place to practise your trade.

You can't be serious. You can't think that the regime there is ok as long as you don't steal rape or do anything indecent?

 

[decorativeed]

I can't ignore the feeling that people are being hugely ignorant here. I've read comments saying "uh no, feck them" - is it because they are from Saudi Arabia? They are business men who've made a fortune and want to invest in our club.

I bet half the people in this place would hardly react at all if you replaced "Saudis" with "Romanians" or "Peruvians".

A degree of racism perhaps?

No doubt there will be people her who may have valid reasons to be fair, just think that there's a few who have just gone 2+2 and thought "Uh, no they are corrupt as shit - I don't want to be a plastic club".

The irony!

We're not talking about self-made businessmen that happen to be from Saudi Arabia. We're talking about the heads of state. The people responsible for war crimes, torture, murder and repression.

It's nothing to do with race, and if you'd read any of the previous pages of this thread, you'd understand that.

 

[fishfingers15]

It is actually. A lot of people from the UK go there to work and even to go on holiday (shock horror)!
As long as you don't steal, rape or do anything indecent, you'll love it.
Of course, if you are criminal, then I do agree, it's not a good place to practise your trade.

Of course, as long as you don't steal or rape, it's Fine. For fecking feck's sake.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

I've answered your questions, so what's your point? Any fool could have Googled the answer.
You have clumsily avoided the issue that I was making. I stated that your use of the word "but" in your previous post is incompatible with your previous stance.

Do you not agree?

Nope

 

[::sonny::]

I'm ready to bow at our new overlords

 

[Gentleman Jim]

Nope

Ok.

 

[JonDahl]

I can't ignore the feeling that people are being hugely ignorant here. I've read comments saying "uh no, feck them" - is it because they are from Saudi Arabia? They are business men who've made a fortune and want to invest in our club.

I bet half the people in this place would hardly react at all if you replaced "Saudis" with "Romanians" or "Peruvians".

A degree of racism perhaps?.

The irony of you feeling people are being ignorant when you are oblivious to the reasons why people are against this.

Listen; people would react the same if you replace the tyrannical, murderous regime of the Saudi family - the people who would run the club with Romanians or Peruvians who also run their country in the same detestable manner. It’s not because they are from Saudi Arabia - don’t be stupid.

Clutching at straws with the racism remark.

 

[red thru&thru]

They have a system based on Sharia law. They have the death penalty and behead people, and sometimes crucify the beheaded body to make an example. Yeah it's lovely there.

I live in England & at times I feel we should have stricter laws. As a society, we wouldn’t be in as much of a mess!

Plus, you have to remember, they don’t just behead people for the fun of it. Yes, some of their laws and reasoning is crazy for the West to understand but it’s how they live.

 

[nycender]

My allegiance could be bought for a few Mbappe's.

 

[SirAF]

I live in England & at times I feel we should have stricter laws. As a society, we wouldn’t be in as much of a mess!

Plus, you have to remember, they don’t just behead people for the fun of it. Yes, some of their laws and reasoning is crazy for the West to understand but it’s how they live.

This will end well.

 

[Cloud7]

I can't ignore the feeling that people are being hugely ignorant here. I've read comments saying "uh no, feck them" - is it because they are from Saudi Arabia? They are business men who've made a fortune and want to invest in our club.

I bet half the people in this place would hardly react at all if you replaced "Saudis" with "Romanians" or "Peruvians".

A degree of racism perhaps?

No doubt there will be people her who may have valid reasons to be fair, just think that there's a few who have just gone 2+2 and thought "Uh, no they are corrupt as shit - I don't want to be a plastic club".

How the feck does being born into a royal family sitting on more oil than anywhere else in the world make you a successful businessman? FFS

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

I can't ignore the feeling that people are being hugely ignorant here. I've read comments saying "uh no, feck them" - is it because they are from Saudi Arabia? They are business men who've made a fortune and want to invest in our club.

I bet half the people in this place would hardly react at all if you replaced "Saudis" with "Romanians" or "Peruvians".

A degree of racism perhaps?

No doubt there will be people her who may have valid reasons to be fair, just think that there's a few who have just gone 2+2 and thought "Uh, no they are corrupt as shit - I don't want to be a plastic club".

Are you having a laugh mate?

Serious question.

 

[jymufc20]

Yeah you'll be fine as long as you don't steal, rape, be gay or Dab. All the usual activities criminals get up to, i'm sure its a lovely place to visit.

To be fair i agree with them, the dab should be outlawed.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

I live in England & at times I feel we should have stricter laws. As a society, we wouldn’t be in as much of a mess!

Plus, you have to remember, they don’t just behead people for the fun of it. Yes, some of their laws and reasoning is crazy for the West to understand but it’s how they live.

They're an anachronistic, barbaric regime. The more light shone on their human rights crimes the better.

However, if they bought United, I personally don't think that should mean United fans are supporting them - I loathe the Glazers, and the poverty and cruelty that extreme capitalism spreads across the World.

But make no mistake - they're a ludicrous, cruel and backwards regime, as are Citeh's owners.

 

[Gentleman Jim]

They're an anachronistic, barbaric regime. The more light shone on their human rights crimes the better.

However, if they bought United, I personally don't think that should mean United fans are supporting them - I loathe the Glazers, and the poverty and cruelty that extreme capitalism spreads across the World.

But make no mistake - they're a ludicrous, cruel and backwards regime, as are Citeh's owners.

You may well compare a regime that has beheaded 48 people in 4 months with one that has executed 2 in several years but many would think there's a disparity.

 

[stevoc]

To be fair i agree with them, the dab should be outlawed.

Only if they also outlaw the floss.

 

[stevoc]

I live in England & at times I feel we should have stricter laws. As a society, we wouldn’t be in as much of a mess!

Plus, you have to remember, they don’t just behead people for the fun of it. Yes, some of their laws and reasoning is crazy for the West to understand but it’s how they live.

Oh so they have reasons for brutally executing people in public? Well in that case it's ok then.