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Will Spurs finish in the top four in the upcoming season?


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You may not be disputing it but you're glossing over it. Any profit from the ground love is earmarked for loan re-payments. That includes stadium naming rights.

That won't be necessary and won't be the case: the notion that all club profits will be lost in servicing the loan is a non-starter.
 
Based on what predicate, exactly? There is no undeniable logic that could support such a notion. You are clearly not considering all variable factors here.

Have you considered the very real possibility of Spurs finishing outside the top 4 and the lack of CL football the following season?

Spurs don't budget based on CL hoped-for income - such money is treated as a bonus. Many on here don't realise just how much our annual income will be boosted by the new stadium - extra money that will come from significant boosts to at least 4 different income streams (tickets sales, merchandising, corporate boxes/hospitality, food and drink sales) and three entirely new income streams (stadium naming rights, NFL football and entertainment events).
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That won't be necessary and won't be the case: the notion that all club profits will be lost in servicing the loan is a non-starter.
Not all of them. Just the increase that the loan was secured against. Unless you can provide other financial data of course.
 
Spurs best of everyone in the group stage. Impressive. It is interesting sometimes how a team or players can be so much better in some competitions compared to others.
 
Spurs best of everyone in the group stage. Impressive. It is interesting sometimes how a team or players can be so much better in some competitions compared to others.

Idd,
Teams always ease off when it becomes obvious they're not going to win a league
and a somewhat respectable gap of 8 points ends on a silly gap of 14 points that isn't that reflective of the quality of the two teams.

Spurs aren't going to win the league this year. They'd have a real uphill battle even if City weren't about.
Their opportunity to win it at a time that others were underwhelming has passed really.
They dont look all that fecked in a similar manner to how i'd expect them to play in the europa league or something.
Other teams just look more desperate to keep in touch with city or solidify their position in top 4.
They'll do enough to stay in touch with the top 4 and make a good push if / when they go out of cups.
Any other year i'd say that'd be enough but ... wembley doesn't help their cause.
 
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They still playing 3 at the back? Should just put Dier at DM and have a CB duo of Sanchez - Vertonghen with Foyth as backup CB.
 
They still playing 3 at the back? Should just put Dier at DM and have a CB duo of Sanchez - Vertonghen with Foyth as backup CB.

He'll be back for the CL too wont he?
Good player so they'll miss him obviously but they can manage without.
 
Well, they haven't been coping too well without him have they?

I think the problem is both him and Wanyama missing. If it was just Wanyama missing then Dier will play there and it doesn't interrupt us too much. With both out it means Dier drops back into defence leaving us with no real recognised defensive midfielder. It makes us a bit of an unbalanced mess.
 
It also seems a mental issue, they seem well up for the big CL games, beating RM and Dortmund to top their group.

Then in the league games they seem like they cant be assed. Especially something like the N.London derby where you would expect a Spurs team to be well up for it, yet Arsenal beat them 2-0 handily. Recent form has seen them drop points to Arsenal, WBA, Leicester, Watford. Sure they have turned it around a little by spanking Stoke, they will probably beat Brighton as well. But I expect City to smash them off the park if they turn up with a half assed attitude. City will probably beat them no matter what attitude they turn up with tbf, just a question of by how much.
 


Dunno if anyone will be interested, nothing really ground breaking in it but it's funny how a Canadian guy makes it all the way over just to get a hug from Poch. Think it's a nice insight to a more personal side to the club, also seems we were trying for an even bigger stadium but the pesky council would allow it.
 
3 wins in a row, 2 in the league and in the top 4. Let’s hope it’s confidencd fully regained going into Saturday’s game.
 
I see Pochettino is already coming out with the 'City are the best team in Europe' bleats... expect him to roll-over predictably.

Imagine hearing that from your manager as a player before going into battle.

I predict he'll play into citeh's hands, get beaten in an 'entertaining match that's good for football', and then get praised by guardiola after the match for 'playing in the right way' (i.e the way that makes it easy for citeh to play how they want to).
 
I see Pochettino is already coming out with the 'City are the best team in Europe' bleats... expect him to roll-over predictably.

Imagine hearing that from your manager as a player before going into battle.

I predict he'll play into citeh's hands, get beaten in an 'entertaining match that's good for football', and then get praised by guardiola after the match for 'playing in the right way' (i.e the way that makes it easy for citeh to play how they want to).

Yeah but better to call them shit and get owned isn't it lol. If you have watched any of Spurs this season you will know that we can play the "wrong" way against teams we have to.
 
Yeah but better to call them shit and get owned isn't it lol. If you have watched any of Spurs this season you will know that we can play the "wrong" way against teams we have to.

It just seems needless and overly sycophantic for a top manager to say.

Why not say, 'they're a very good side, but so are we', or something of the like?

It's that mindset that has created Pochettino's ridiculously bad away form against Top 6 teams. He's basically conceded that match already.

Maybe as a fan you're so used to it that you can't see the wood for the trees, so to speak. But I do think it's a weak comment to hear from your manager - especially as you know it's not said as mind games, he's genuinely just rolling over and purring about them before the battle's even started.
 
It just seems needless and overly sycophantic for a top manager to say.

Why not say, 'they're a very good side, but so are we', or something of the like?

It's that mindset that has created Pochettino's ridiculously bad away form against Top 6 teams. He's basically conceded that match already.

Maybe as a fan you're so used to it that you can't see the wood for the trees, so to speak. But I do think it's a weak comment to hear from your manager - especially as you know it's not said as mind games, he's genuinely just rolling over and purring about them before the battle's even started.

I think its personal preference, I would rather have a manager who says it how it is, than one who talks crap. I don't think Jose is either by the way. But be 100% honest, if Poch comes out and says "yeah, they are a god team but we can beat them" then doesn't, most of the Cafe would be saying "who does this Poch guy think he is, sure he hasn't even won anything".

At the end of the day what Poch says and what he says in the dressing room and how he sets up are two very different things. I'm not completely ignoring the fact that we could get something out of the game.
 
yeah, they are a god team

You see, now you're worshiping them... Pochettino's weak attitude has subliminally filtered through to your subconscious as a fan and you're now unknowingly entering into the "Godiola" trance that the rest of English footy is currently stumbling about in.

Soon you'll be sacrificing your Spuds memorabilia in strange, wild rituals to this bald, twitchy new god. Your eyes glazed with a sky blue lust.

Muttering to yourself, "thank you, sheik mansour, thank you, sheik mansour", as you attempt to make love to your partner, only for her (or him) to jump out of bed screaming, "what have you become?". But you're not even listening, you just lie there with your eyes glazed over thinking of Sterling, Silva, Jesus... "thank you shiek mansour, thank you shiek mansour".

It's a slippery, oil slicked path, my friend.
 
You see, now you're worshiping them... Pochettino's weak attitude has subliminally filtered through to your subconscious as a fan and you're now unknowingly entering into the "Godiola" trance that the rest of English footy is currently stumbling about in.

Soon you'll be sacrificing your Spuds memorabilia in strange, wild rituals to this bald, twitchy new god. Your eyes glazed with a sky blue lust.

Muttering to yourself, "thank you, sheik mansour, thank you, sheik mansour", as you attempt to make love to your partner, only for her (or him) to jump out of bed screaming, "what have you become?". But you're not even listening, you just lie there with your eyes glazed over thinking of Sterling, Silva, Jesus... "thank you shiek mansour, thank you shiek mansour".

It's a slippery, oil slicked path, my friend.

You clearly are not familiar with my anti Pep and City postings, I don't think Pep is some tactical genius but I will say he has bought quite a good team who play very well together, playing to Pep's plan. Like I said I'm quietly optimistic about tomorrow. Im we will have a better go than Jose did ;).
 
Its spurs, even their manager knows they will bottle it so is getting the excuses in early.
 
Did United not bottle it? Or do you prefer big talk rather than big action?
I did not mean to hit a nerve, but you have to admit many times when it has mattered spurs have always come up short. United were the poorer team and frankly did not bottle it cause we dint even have the quality. I think without Pogba spurs first team is better than united but they would never get results united did in fergie's seasons or last year in two cup finals when it mattered. It probably is a mentality thing and well the manager supporting that mentality is a bit spursish i guess.
 
I predict that Spurs will show us how to play against City in their own turf. Whether they lose or win, I'm confident they will put up a fight and not set up for a draw.
 
I did not mean to hit a nerve, but you have to admit many times when it has mattered spurs have always come up short. United were the poorer team and frankly did not bottle it cause we dint even have the quality. I think without Pogba spurs first team is better than united but they would never get results united did in fergie's seasons or last year in two cup finals when it mattered. It probably is a mentality thing and well the manager supporting that mentality is a bit spursish i guess.

Ha il be honest to an extent i agree with you, if i didn't agree id be lying but its a hurdle i hope some day soon we vault. no nerve hit just friendly "banter" and I hate that word.
 
I predict that Spurs will show us how to play against City in their own turf. Whether they lose or win, I'm confident they will put up a fight and not set up for a draw.

They set out for a draw against United, stands to reason they will be doing the same against City at the Etihad.

That said, this Spurs team are more than capable of a surprise or two. Let's hope they can pull off a result this afternoon.

Go Spuds!
 
Please Pochettino, don't bottle another big game! We need City to lose!
 
You'd think that after 2 shit away games against Arsenal and United they'll get a result today.
 
They set out for a draw against United, stands to reason they will be doing the same against City at the Etihad.

That said, this Spurs team are more than capable of a surprise or two. Let's hope they can pull off a result this afternoon.

Go Spuds!

Never thought I'd see the day! :lol:
 
Please Pochettino, don't bottle another big game! We need City to lose!

Poch has a lot of potential, but as yet, cannot mix it with the best managers in our league.
It will be interesting to see if/when he is able to win a trophy.
I'm sure his time will come.

4-1 against MCFC (luckily they saved a penalty, otherwise it could've been 5-1), is poor.
 
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Spurs are too tippy tappy and one dimensional. No pace upfront. Lack of a quality deep midfielder.

Poch has a big job on his hands. Still think they're better than Liverpool but only just.
 
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