The Spurs thread | 2017-18 season | Serious thread - wummers/derailers will be threadbanned
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Got to say if they were to land Barkley, Sanchez/s and get a striker on loan I'd say they would be pretty good additions. Heck if they really did somehow someway manage to get Martial I'd suddenly put them in as a threat in the top 4. As is I think they will be fighting for a 4th spot.
Its all about getting the 3 points in matches like this at the start of the season so delighted with the result. Very promising debut from Walkers-Peters is a big bonus also.
They were far from impressive, but it was only the first game. For a side who tend to start slowly it is a great result.
Not the most impressive game from Spurs, looked pretty shite before the red card. But got the result and that's what matters, they will need to grind out results exactly like this to challenge for the title this season. Eriksen looked good as he usually does. Walker-Peters was also very bright, only shaky moment was where he almost gave away a pen but got saved by the offside call. Next week vs Chelsea should be very interesting
Good to get the win.
Not such a good day for Rose: he might have to use Google to find out who played so well at RB for us + his competition for LB scored a goal.
Not such a good day for Rose: he might have to use Google to find out who played so well at RB for us + his competition for LB scored a goal.
Oh God they really have a Kyle Walker-Peters. Tried to fool their fans but forgot to remove his second surname, idiots.
Just think of the cash boost we will get from fans adding -Peters to their Kyle Walker kits though.
Can see some using duct-tape to write Peters on their shirts
Just how random is that though, fecking hell.
Basically pays for the stadium by itself!
If the Davinson Sanchez signing really does go through, means Spurs will probably play 3 at the back primarily (Vertonghen-Alderweireld-Sanchez) and Walker-Peters is more of a natural RB than a RWB. Don't know how much more of him we'll see this year if that's how it plays out.
This is my thinking on it but i see no reason why Walker-Peters can't play WB he's tidy on the ball, decent pace and can deliver a ball I was really impressed with him yesterday considering it was his debut. Also signing another CB allows us to have Dier solely as a DM witch should keep him happier.
Problem there is that he'd be competing with arguably your most influential player last season in Wanyama. Regardless, I still think DM is the role Dier is most suited to play. He most definitely played his best stuff for Spurs and England in said role.
Thought spurs were lacking pace yesterday, the loss of Walker and the omission of Rose (is he really injured?) clearly having an adverse affect somewhat. Davies & Peters were solid enough stand ins from a defensive perspective but attacking wise they added very little, inexperience likely played a part there. Alli looked lost without Walker's presence.
They got the win, though. Tis a good sign when your team can grind out a result after a poor performance.
We do lack pace - Rose is 100% injured by the way, he has been out for 7 months and not likely to be fit for another 2 more at least. Sanchez if we sign him is quick which is great but obviously not much use in attacking areas. I hope we manage to sign somebody with pace in attacking areas because it is the one thing we do miss.
Is Toby Alderweireld off then?
Where did you get that from?
Good victory over the weekend at a ground we tend to do appallingly in. Not our best performance but don't think we really turned up the gears that much. With Lamela, Rose, Trippier, Nkoudou and Winks, Wanyama and Son coming back to fitness, wasn't too bad really.
Not sure whether Spurs or City have the best starting XI yet agree with the rest.
I agree with Wanyama and Dier but Dier doesn't want to be seen as a utility player and wants the DM position for England. He will still get a lot of games, I think he will rotate with Victor. Good problem to have.
Yeah Rose done his knee ligaments last season and was always going to be a lay off. Looked rusty on the first game no problem saying it but could still have won by 4 on another day if Kane had his shooting boots on. Next week will tell us a lot more with regards how competitive we are. If Ali was lost he certainly still found the net
.Have to say was really impressed with United on Sunday. Probably the best I've seen for a long time. After the game I put £20 of Bilic gettting the sack before Christmas.
Quite a few tickets still available for the Chelsea game if anyone is in London with nothing to do this weekend
Isn't his contract running out and he won't sign?
He is still in negotiations - he wants a release clause and the club are refusing - hopefully a compromise can be reached before the end of the season.
It's tough for you guys at the moment. I'm sure he'll want a pay rise too. Then you're back into the Rose argument about breaking the structure.
Im taking this as not being patronising cause of our chats before
, but it's not as tough as people make out. I have my own thoughts on selling players, I wouldn't be in the group of letting a player rot in the reserves but wouldn't be happy if we just rolled over and let our bellies get tickled get tickled either m. I believe Toby deserves parity with our other top earners but that's it, it's simply how we have to operate, right now. Ultimately if he wants to go, I don't think he does at the minute, I don't think Rose does either TBH, but we either have to sell at some point of let them go for free. Of course that could change if after our stadium is built we can't be more competitive salary wise. Ulimately we will not, for the considerable future be able to offer what United et all can offer so if someone wants to move on all we can do is get the absolute most we can. I don't see that as us being a "selling club" it's just the reality. I know it's hard for a United fan to contemplate, I'm not patronising here, but I just know the reality of football.
What does piss me off is when I sometimes think of the team we could of had. Imagine Modric and Bale in our starting 11 right now. But c'est la vie
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C'est la vie bud.Im taking this as not being patronising cause of our chats before
Ulimately we will not, for the considerable future be able to offer what United et all can offer so if someone wants to move on all we can do is get the absolute most we can. I don't see that as us being a "selling club" it's just the reality. I know it's hard for a United fan to contemplate, I'm not patronising here, but I just know the reality of football.
What does piss me off is when I sometimes think of the team we could of had. Imagine Modric and Bale in our starting 11 right now. But say la vie
Think the contract runs out in 2019, at which point we can apparently trigger a unilateral one year contract extension where a release clause of 25 million pound would then kick in. So we still have some time but agreed, I would really like to se him tied down to a new contract.
I think he is genuinely one of, if not arguably the most, important player in the squad. Kane, Alli, Eriksen, Lloris and Alderweirald are imo the most important. We felt Alderweirald's injury more acutely than even Kane's. He contributes so much from both a defensive and attacking pov.
Give him parity with Lloris and Kane ffs Levy!!
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I can see no reason why he wouldn't, I think the sticking point is a rummered realease clause Toby wants, I think all contracts will have them from now on.
We'll have him ! We can even throw in Moreno as a freebie.
Do you have an accurate list of what Spurs' players are on salary-wise ? I thought Glaston mentioned that the salaries might not be high but the bonuses for success are ?Im taking this as not being patronising cause of our chats before
Ulimately we will not, for the considerable future be able to offer what United et all can offer so if someone wants to move on all we can do is get the absolute most we can. I don't see that as us being a "selling club" it's just the reality. I know it's hard for a United fan to contemplate, I'm not patronising here, but I just know the reality of football.
What does piss me off is when I sometimes think of the team we could of had. Imagine Modric and Bale in our starting 11 right now. But c'est la vie
*edit Fixed the end bit, I'm rushing off my train.
A major challenge for Spurs is going to be contract renewals going forward.
Levy was genius to tie down Kane and Alli to longterm deals. It will be clear by the end of the season though, that they are being massively underpaid.
Sooner rather than later, Levy is going to have to loosen the purse strings significantly on wages. No club cannot pay market rates and expect to keep players happy in the medium and long term.
Levy was genius to tie down Kane and Alli to longterm deals. It will be clear by the end of the season though, that they are being massively underpaid.
Sooner rather than later, Levy is going to have to loosen the purse strings significantly on wages. No club cannot pay market rates and expect to keep players happy in the medium and long term.
With the imminent signing of Sanchez it seems clear we are committing to a 3-4-3 formation from now on. It actually would not surprise me if we sign another defender if we sell Wimmer. With that and a right back our defence should be sorted for years to come and will be of very high quality. We still need a pacy wide forward though but fingers crossed we can get one.
I've no idea why Barca are going for Coutinho over Alli. I'd take the latter any day of the week.
For Iniesta role/replacement, Coutinho is better signing.
Meh, they need goals. Can't rely on Messi and Suarez forever, and Alli gives goals. I think he'd be brilliant there and is closer to the standards you expect from a Barca attacker than Coutinho is.
Don't think Alli will be playing so high up the pitch at Barca to score so many goals. They also need playmaker from the midfield to set Messi free and concentrate on final third rather than dropping deep.
Eriksen seems like a Barcelona player a lot more than Alli. Alli has Madrid written all over him. I fully expect him to be playing for them within the next few years, and am just going to enjoy whatever time he has left in North London.
Vertonghen is already 30(!) and is going to need a left sided understudy quite soon. He's probably got only 2 years left at this level he is now. It's crazy how fast players careers go by.
Ehh... 30 isn't that old for a defender - he could have another 3/4 years at the top.
Never ends up that way unfortunately. I remember when Fabio and Rafael were around with Jones, Evans and Smalling and everyone thought that we were sorted for a decade.
I still think you need more attacking options. If Eriksen in particular gets injured this season you will struggle to break down teams. You don't really have anyone who can replace his creativity. I also think you need a decent goalscoring wide forward that can rotate with Alli/Son. Currently most of your goals come from Alli and Kane, Son and Eriksen chips in a with a few more but that's it. I'm still surprised you haven't tried poaching Dembele from Celtic given how much you wanted him first time around.
I agree and I believe we are trying for a quick wide forward (though whether we get one is anyone's guess) and we are likely to sign Barkley who could perhaps slot in if Eriksen was injured (though he is nowhere near as good). Plus we have Lamela (when fit). Dembele we were interested in before he went to Celtic but something came up in the medical which stopped us from signing him - this is also why no other big clubs are in for him by the way.
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