As opposed to what? Being ashamed of winning them? It's nice to remind people that actually winning things is important, not finishing 2nd.
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As opposed to what? Being ashamed of winning them? It's nice to remind people that actually winning things is important, not finishing 2nd.
Being proud of being the most successful club in England isn't anything to sneer at.
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with a squad of United size and quality they should be expected. Spurs have a good first 11 and 1 or 2 decent subs. They were actually probably the best team last year but they just don't have the quality in depth to be fighting on all fronts and the higher you are in the league the more money will come your way than winning the Carling cup or Fa cup. Honestly think he would be right to prioritise the league over the cups unless something drastic happens in the cups and say all the big guns are knocked out.For Spurs right now it's about solidifying themselves in the top 6 so after the new stadium is built they are an attractive proposition to players.
He seems to be judging the smaller trophies on what they offer in terms of prestige, rather than what they can bring to a group of players whom have no understanding of what it feels like to win a something. As a collective of players, a team, Spurs have no conception of the term "winning mentality" because they haven't had the opportunity to discover it's benefits, and presumably never will because Poch will likely play a weakened team in those "insignificant" cup games.
Fergie understood it and he maintains to this day that the springboard to United's success came from winning the FA cup in 1990. Jose also understands the concept, after he consistently played strong teams in the FA, the Europa and the League cups last season. He didn't care about the trophies' prestigeous value, or lack thereof, he wanted his team to understand what winning as a group of players - his players- feels like, a taste of what is to come. If United win the title this season, Jose will mention the feeling of empowerment that his players felt after winning a cup double (probably not in the same words though!)
If I were Poch I'd be revisiting that line of thinking.
It's pretty clear what he meant by reading the full quotes.
The league is the bread and butter. Everyone plays each other twice, full on for ten months.....that's the barometer of consistency.
When I grew up Tottenham won cups - UEFA Cup, FA Cups but never challenged for the league. They weren't consistent enough week by week. Hoddle was the original highlights player.
Pochettino wants to make them a team who can do that and if they continue to be at the top end of the league, they have the quality to win cups.
The league is the bread and butter. Everyone plays each other twice, full on for ten months.....that's the barometer of consistency.
When I grew up Tottenham won cups - UEFA Cup, FA Cups but never challenged for the league. They weren't consistent enough week by week. Hoddle was the original highlights player.
Pochettino wants to make them a team who can do that and if they continue to be at the top end of the league, they have the quality to win cups.
The commentator just said that they expect to beat the attendance record in their next home game, against Burnley.
They've moved from a 36k capacity stadium to a 90k capacity. That could be ~50m more from ticket sales over the season...
Do spurs get to keep the profits? Are the ticket prices subsidised? How does this work?
They've moved from a 36k capacity stadium to a 90k capacity. That could be ~50m more from ticket sales over the season...
Do spurs get to keep the profits? Are the ticket prices subsidised? How does this work?
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Asked my girlfriend who's an accountant specialising in audit, and she says it probably depends on the agreement on how Wembley is leased out to them. Who's owns Wembley? I believe its the Wembley stadium company Ltd with the FA acting as a parent company.
- As Wembley is still open for FA cup etc, are they leasing it as part of a shared usage deal?
- Are Tottenham free to decide their own ticket prices or do Wembley stadium company have input?
- I'd say the FA still have some say so the whole profit can't be Tottenhams
Sounds to me like he's dismissing the achievements of clubs who have won those 'minor' trophies. Every manager likes to get a few digs in with the rivals so nothing new in that. That said, of the big 6 managers Pochettino has easily the least right to be making that comment.
No he isn't doing that at all.
They can't possibly be keeping the full profits, or we'd have heard a lot more moaning about it from rival clubs. As in effect it'd be the FA granting them a massive unfair advantage.
They're in the shitter if it's truly a mental block.
Eh let's not make something out of nothing. We have played well and just conceeded from a great freekick. Don't see what Wembley had to do with that.
The bit i'd be more worried about if I was one of you guys, is that this isn't a fully firing Chelsea team, this is one without Hazard, Costa, Matic (!), Fabregas and Cahill. That's a very weakened team.
Agree with this.
Spurs have dominated Chelsea and will come back to win this game I reckon.
If Wembley has any effect it'll probably start to show a little later in the season in the form of slightly higher fatigue as the extra running takes it toll.
They are still a strong team especially defensively.
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Spurs eh.
Terrible from Lloris. Times like that you use your feet, that's why De Gea is much much better.
All week we've heard about how bad Chelsea are and how Spurs will batter them.. Spurs have been poo and Glaston is nowhere to be seen.
Terrible from Wanyama mainly to lose the ball like that. Lloris had a shocker also.
Not a single Spurs fan here has said that.
I think they will get used to Wembley soon enough.
On here perhaps but on talksport and the likes, people have written off Chelsea (i still don't think they look great) and they've shown you up today.
They had one job. One job ffs.
Good luck playing 38 away games this season lads.
They get the win and fair play to them. Derby's are always tough games. The media bigging up a match shouldn't be used against the fans though. Not like we can help that.
Dirty thugs, mind boggles why those cnuts get so much love on here.
Chelsea scored a great free kick and credit for Alonso smashing in the second but Chelsea were pretty ordinary today which reflects badly on Spurs.
If that's the typical Spurs performance at Wembley (home) then they won't be reaching the top four this season and I backed them to come 2nd again. (might have to rethink things)
United should take Kane and Alli off them when the time is right.
If that's the typical Spurs performance at Wembley (home) then they won't be reaching the top four this season and I backed them to come 2nd again.
(might have to rethink things)United should take Kane and Alli off them when the time is right.
Poor last week until Shelvey bailed them out by being an idiot, poor again this week. Had plenty of decent chances but their only goal came through a hilarious own goal. Once they get better used to Wembley and Kane starts firing though they will be dangerous again, but I'm doubting if this squad will have the fitness to mount another title challenge.
When the fans are calling radio stations saying how good their team is (we are all guilty of it) I don't think you can blame the media for anything. Fact is after last week, Spurs fans got very excited about the Chelsea players missing and whatever and yet Spurs weren't great today and I think some might finally be waking up to the fact that playing at Wembley is going to be what costs you in the race for top four let alone the title.
Also, it's just very convenient to show that you're only interested in the PL and the CL as the other trophies are too small. Funny given it comes from the manager and club who've won feck all.
Well every club has stupid fans. A London derby is always a very close game no matter who is injured, etc. That's just the way it is. A derby game is not a game to judge the Wembley thing - the next game will be though. If we lose or draw that then I'll start worrying.
Wow, and Chelsea literally scored a goal for them and they still couldn't even hold for a draw.
That Chelsea hoodou as strong as ever
That Chelsea hoodou as strong as ever
It's like their fans who have quickly turned from "4th place is pathetic, it's all about winning trophies" and the Europa is very important and prestigious, to it's all about Champions league and the other cups are a mere distraction!
Dembele is what I'd love to see Pogba progress into for the big games here.
Typical bottling Tottenham Hotspur. They will struggle at Wembley and finish 6th or 7th.
Are we not allowed to have an ambition to win a title now? What is wrong with that? He didn't say he didn't want to win anything else, he said he did but his main ambition was the title. We did end last season in 2nd place so it's not completely out of our reach.
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