We won't be in the CL next year because of this team IMO. I can't see us catching them. Newcastle and Southampton has killed us.
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They've only lost 3 games this season... They're a very good side.
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They've had an excellent season and i hope they win the league but i remember Newcastle beating them also.
I think Leicester and Newcastle beat them in the league.
Spurs also lost to Leicester, but still they are a very good side. Not sure they have much depth but it doesn't really matter if you don't have many injury problems.
Spurs have lost 3 matches. Leicester have only lost 2.
We'll have to do very well to finish above either of these.
With that said, I can't see Spurs or Leicester doing as well in their last 10 games. I think fatigue/pressure/expectation might catch up to them in that final stretch.
We'll have to do very well to finish above either of these.
With that said, I can't see Spurs or Leicester doing as well in their last 10 games. I think fatigue/pressure/expectation might catch up to them in that final stretch.
I'll stick my neck out say if we lose this weekend we wont finish top 4...win and we will. Lets hope its not a draw as my thinking has not covered this.
We are five behind Arsenal too and will be playing them both. We can absolutely catch both teams.
We usually do well against the big teams but the bigger problem is we drop points against mid/lower level teams while the likes of Arse and Spurs have been winning these games.
I'm not too confident we will make it tbh, unless Spurs and Arsenal go through a really really bad patch or Leicester go into complete free fall.
You probably heard that they lost 1 away game all season, which was the game against us.The radio lied to me
Also Europa League is going to start soon and it is known to have a bad effect on league form and we don't particularly have a large squad either.
I think they might finish 2nd to City.
Spurs have conceded fewer than 20 goals in their opening 24 games for the first time in their top-flight history (81 seasons).
The transformation in our defence has been remarkable under Pochettino so far, and achieved without playing a defensive game. The two key changes IMO have been bringing in Alderweireld to partner his Belgian national teammate Vertonghen, and deploying Dier as a DM.
The transformation in our defence has been remarkable under Pochettino so far, and achieved without playing a defensive game. The two key changes IMO have been bringing in Alderweireld to partner his Belgian national teammate Vertonghen, and deploying Dier as a DM.
I don't think its really the defence as such, although I do think Alderweireld is a very good player. There's just so much energy and work rate in front of the defence. Coupled with, like you said, a player who is used to playing as a defender protecting the back four in Dier.
Personally I think there's definite room for improvement in terms of personnel in defence for spurs but you can't argue with how pochettino has them set up, as he did with southampton.
Another thing - which you wont like but I would really like to see pochettino at one of the big boys. He's had two jobs now where he's had the personalities in the squad that will play his way, I'd love to see him take a team the has bigger egos and more expectations than spurs ( no offence ) and see if he can replicate it.
Rigours of European football could potentially derail them, their squad really isn't very big at all. They should have signed a striker.
They will overtake Man City to go 2nd if they beat Watford at home this afternoon.
How the hell did this happen?
How the hell did this happen?
Pochetinio is a admirer of LVG philosophy. Or something.
Second in the table, then. Are Spurs now serious title contenders?
If they can keep their key players fit then yes they have a great chance. The EL might hinder them in the latter stages as Pochettino has played a strong team in that competition so far and that might catch up with them in the business end of the season, especially if they continue with that policy as you would expect them to brush away most sides in the competition.
But if Kane was to get injured, they would be in big trouble, not only is he their only main goalscorer but the back-up is not very good. They didn't manage to sign Dembele and N'Jie doesn't look like a proven goalscorer who will bang them in if Kane gets injured.
Also if one of their CB were to get injured, they would have to play Wimmer who hasn't had much football thus far and could struggle but apart from that they do have decent strength in depth especially at full back and the attacking positions with Walker, Trippier, Rose, Davies and then Ali, Chadli, Lamela, Son, f Dembele, Eriksen and a few of the kids who are making an impact.
But if Kane was to get injured, they would be in big trouble, not only is he their only main goalscorer but the back-up is not very good. They didn't manage to sign Dembele and N'Jie doesn't look like a proven goalscorer who will bang them in if Kane gets injured.
Also if one of their CB were to get injured, they would have to play Wimmer who hasn't had much football thus far and could struggle but apart from that they do have decent strength in depth especially at full back and the attacking positions with Walker, Trippier, Rose, Davies and then Ali, Chadli, Lamela, Son, f Dembele, Eriksen and a few of the kids who are making an impact.
N'Jie has been out injured for a long time now - he's played very few minutes in the league so far, so your view on him can't be based on much.
Also, Wimmer has played instead of the injured Vertonghen (who is out for several more weeks to come) in the last two league games - but we've conceded no goals in either of them.
I guess so. I'd say that if Leicester are then Spurs are considering Spurs have a better squad than them in my opinion.
The Europa League could easily mess up their form but I'm not sure they will get past Fiorentina so it may only disrupt two Premier League fixtures. If Kane stays fit then with his goals they can certainly finish close to the top. They've only conceded 19 goals as well and for me a strong defence can lay the foundation for being a successful side.
Imagine the top two at the end of the season being Leicester and Tottenham. This season has been a barrel of laughs if I ignore Liverpools current position.
So can they do it? They've got some pretty tough fixtures remaining:
Swansea H
West Ham A
Arsenal H
Villa A
Bournemouth H
Liverpool A
Man Utd H
Stoke A
West Brom H
Chelsea A
Southampton H
Newcastle A
Swansea H
West Ham A
Arsenal H
Villa A
Bournemouth H
Liverpool A
Man Utd H
Stoke A
West Brom H
Chelsea A
Southampton H
Newcastle A
Europa coming up, the answer is no. I can't see Poch sacrificing Europa and he'll be fooled into thinking he has a good enough squad for both. Ultimate reality will kick in when Tom Carroll, Lamela, etc, are found out in the league without Alli, Erikson and Kane next to them. I can see Newcastle, Brom, Bournemouth and specially Villa giving them big shocks (where Poch will give his squad players games).
Spurs will throw the Europa league out of the window now, they've not been in the position in decades. I can't see a fixture there that will daunt them there, maybe Chelsea away.
I disagree, hubris gets to EVERY manager. Poch will think he can do both and will think it below himself to think otherwise. Rinse and repeat.
Lamela has been one of our best creative players this season and makes an incredible contribution defensively up top.
He's almost perfect for the Poch system.
Theoretically we can do it, I don't see us doing it though. A top 3 finish and I'll be happy enough, considering that most people had us at well outside the top 4 at the beginning of this season.
He's almost perfect for the Poch system.
Theoretically we can do it, I don't see us doing it though. A top 3 finish and I'll be happy enough, considering that most people had us at well outside the top 4 at the beginning of this season.
There's no way he will take the Europa seriously. If he does then he's an idiot
So you expect them to drop points in all of their easiest remaining games?
Poch won't do it cos he's not an idiot. It has nothing to do with hubris.
Arsenal and Man City won't be playing skeleton teams in Europe and neither should we.
Sensible rotation should be the order of the day of course but throwing away the Europa is silly.
We might not need to throw it anyway, Fiorentina are a good enough team to knock us out.
always rated him, he's like the new Rio, reads the game very well and never rushes into tackles.
I hope the injury to Vertonghen isn't going to effect them much.
We underestimate hubris of football managers, maybe its not hubris. Maybe its a sense of why am I in this profession if I throw away a tournament like that? With all due respect you are not Arsenal and/or Man City. Not yet. I think you can win the league but it really is in your hands and sometimes that's a horrible place for it to be when its your first time for a while [nobody fcking mention slip].
@kps88 I probably didn't explain properly. Those are the games I think Spurs are at most threat of dropping points just like yourselves and us dropped points to Sunderland but beat better oppos (we beat City and Leicester and you've beaten, erm, us. Twice).
I'm very tempted to put money on these to win the league.
He's really quite good. Possibly the best CB of the season since Smalling and Koscielny have had a few slip-ups in the last month or so.
I think I'd rather them winning the league than Leicester tbh. Spurs could use it to kick on and stay at the top for years while Leicester would struggle to maintain a top 4 place next year (imo). That said, Leicester winning the league would be better for us for exactly that reason.
Been very impressed with Spurs this season and wouldnt be surprised to see them battle it out with Leicester for the title.
They were 6/1 for the league today before they played City.
They were 6/1 for the league today before they played City.
Leicester and Spurs battling for the title with Chelsea and United probably nowhere near the top four come the end of the season. Crazy season this is.
did a few mistakes at the beginning of the season, but seems to have been great recently. Great today, was quite cheap too. Van Gaal knows him to from the Ajax days I guess
With the money in the league these days teams won't have to sell. They will all be playing CL football which nobody is going to leave after having this season. Perhaps next year they will falter and then maybe move, but nobody is leaving this summer unless stupid Fees are paid.