You tell him K!!!
But to be honest man, why do you bother. He's like Trump on his worst day flinging irrational biased crap around. We don't really need any analysis to display the guy is not being objective.
The Spurs thread
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
You tell him K!!!
But to be honest man, why do you bother. He's like Trump on his worst day flinging irrational biased crap around. We don't really need any analysis to display the guy is not being objective.
Revisionism is strong in this one. It didn't start when Spurs went 0-2 up.
Walker on Willian
Walker kicks out at Pedro
Walker rash tackle on Pedro
Rose rash tackle on Pedro
Rose being a thug against Willian
Pochettino should've been dismissed after entering the pitch
This all happened before you even scored if I'm not mistaken, surely the most part of it. Chelsea, apart from Diego Costa but what else is new, quite tried to keep their composure to get back into the game, which you shouldn't have allowed in the first place considering how awful they were in the first half. Things only started really getting out of hand once Chelsea were back at 2-2, and that's because all Spurs players lost their heads.
I've got no love for Chelsea, on the contrary, but the main culprits of last night's commotion were the Spurs players.
Using my quotes from 6 years ago I said:
* "Past form is not a reliable guide to the future". That remains as true as ever. It's a guide, but not one you can rely on. Example: Chelsea were champions last season, yet now sit 22 points below Spurs.
* "The old order changeth. Liverpool have already discovered this. Complacency is not your friend." I was right, complacency has not been your friend. United believed that mega-wealth would insulate them from dropping out of the top 4, but that has not been the case.
So far from being stuff "pulled from my arse", my thoughts were actually quite prescient of what has since happened.
Spurs have every reason to be pleased with this season and optimistic for next. Much more than we should be anyway. Despite Martial's promise, he isn't in the same league as Kane (who is one of the best strikers in the world) and we also have no one as exciting as Dele Ali. Then you've got Dier and Dembele who are comfortably better than our midfield options, and even Lamela has achieved way more this season than our 'wingers'. Van Gaal has just bought extremely poorly and we've made virtually no progress since when we first appointed Moyes. As opposed to Spurs who have quite clearly improved and have some excellent players... just because they haven't yet beaten their best every points tally doesn't mean they haven't. Perhaps had they kept Bale and Modric they may have ended up winning the league - if they keep Kane and Dele Ali and keep getting champions league football then they can only get better.
Thought they were an embarrassment, last night. They've had such a good season and to end their challenge like that, kicking everyone in sight (or even poking them in the eye) was a sorry end to it.
That last page was superb. Round 2 chaps.
Oh I sure don't, can't wait for a fecking Arsenal fan to teach me the right ways of being a 'football fan' whatever you want to call it. Enlighten me.
I also love how you presume I have no connection to my team. How do you have a connection to yours? You share the same colon? One braincell amongst all Arsenal fans?
Is Danny Rose going to get in trouble for pushing Guus Hiddink?
Now thats just arrogance and ignorance, wise up.
Spurs were more at fault than Chelsea. But Chelsea were clearly also wanting to turn the match into a nasty affair, particularly after Spurs went 2 - 0 up, when their frustration at the score-line started to show.
It's like saying Keanes tackle on Haland can be partially excused because Haland riled him up.
Points totals are only relevant to the season that they are in, nothing more.
Well, let's see what the points total is at the end of the season and then discuss it, rather than basing it on things that are as yet unknown.
Just for the moment, however, can this season really be called just a blip for United (you mentioned the larger clubs) given that you only finished 4th last season and 7th the one before?
Yes, they were provocatively shoving their eyes into Spurs' players's fingers and cowardly sneaking their hands under Tottenham players' boots. That would rile up anyone.
can't say fairer than that.No they weren't prescient. It was you responding to who was most likely to win the league that season. And guess what happened. Utd finished first and Chelsea finished second. It's a perfect example of how you ignore what has happened in the previous six years if it didn't suit Spurs but becomes very important when it does.
Fine. You agree with me that United have declined and Spurs have improved. That's all I've said - but to judge by the reaction of some on here you'd think I was stating that the moon is made of cheese.
Before it all started to get heated did Costa shove his head into Vertonghens face? Did Mikel try to slap Dembele?
Can you not see the difference between Costa being a yellow worthy cnut as always and a player actually trying to injure an opponent? In Dier's case multiple times.
Excuse me - did I say that Spurs were going to win the league that season (or in any other season for that matter)? No.
I predicted an increasing trend of the top 4 apple cart being upset - and I was right.
I said that what happened to Liverpool could happen to United and others ... and the trend has indeed been in that direction, if not yet as pronounced.
It's not all you've said though. Hence the stupid comments about where United will be playing in Europe next year. Something your club has plenty more experience of.
They set out to bully Spurs, the first bad foul was committed by Ivanovic not a Spurs player.
All 3 of those incidents occurred in the first few minutes and nothing was done, they were setting the tone. What should we do, let them get on with it unpunished?
You might have wanted to see your team allow themselves to be bullied and kicked out of it, well Spurs didn't and if they got more than they bargained for so be it.
You can't expect one team to just rollover.
You were replying to somebody saying the title was between United and Chelsea because they were the best teams and that the previous six years had shown it. You did this by saying that trend meant nothing. Given they had shared every league title in that period and it was them in the top two in 5 of the 6 years it was a pretty strong trend. You ignore it. Now you have a trend that Spurs have finished in the top 4 three times and we should all be trembling. It's all there in black and white. You've been spouting shite for years and it's there for all to see.
I know you're upset after losing the title, but this is simply laughable.
Clattenburg fecked up and a lot of your players acted like thugs. And Chelsea may have played hard, but your lot actually tried to injure people quite obviously.
"The other guy kicked my car door and the police did nothing, so I set his house on fire and the police still did nothing. If he got more than he bargained for so be it."
I wonder what you would say if the roles and the flow of the game where completely reversed, if Fabregas had tackled Dier in such a way and actually succeeded in doing some damage to his leg. You'd blame your own team for setting a harsh tone, right?
I'd assume because those two clubs have won 3 of the last 6 PL titles (being runner-up on goal difference on one occasion). Potentially 2 of the last 6 FA Cups, 2 of the last 6 League Cups, as well as one Champions League win and one Champions League runner up.
Any club if offered United's domestic record from the last 6 years, over the next 6 year period would take it without a second thought.
Note to all PL managers and players: This Spurs side completely susceptible to pre-match mind games...
It's called banter ... and made in response to some of the "picking a fight" comments that are made whenever I post, regardless of what I post.
As I've said, I post to congratulate Leicester as worthy champions ... cue the floodgates.
I don't think we are in for a 25-year period like Livierpool's for what it's worth. Yes, we've been run terribly over the last three years and have declined considerably but we have too much financial power and our status is too strongh for us to accept where we are. Sort of like Bayern, Real Madrid and Barcelona who had their barren spells in early-mid 00s but you knew they'd be back competing because they had to.
Personally, I wanted Spurs to win it. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy Leicester did over any of our rivals but in a straight choice between Spurs and any other Prem team but us, I'd want Spurs every time.
Like Poch's style too. I even enjoy seeing the spiteful attitude they showed as well. They're a proper team in almost every sense.
Like Poch's style too. I even enjoy seeing the spiteful attitude they showed as well. They're a proper team in almost every sense.
I would say that the next season will become a major test for Pochettino and his team. The last two times they qualified for the CL they were unable to repeat it the following season. Juggling the EPL with the CL, especially given the pretty high chance for Spurs to draw a challenging group, is on a different level than doing it with the EL, where you can get away with resting key players in the group stage.
Their first team is pretty impressive and has a lot of talent, but the other side is that they don´t have many outfield players with the above mentioned experience and would be well advised to bolster the depth of the squad a bit. It will also be unlikely that the bigger clubs will struggle again in such a collective manner.
Then surely it's banter when Utd fans do it with Spurs? Strange you get upset about and expect Utd fans not to.
we drew 1-1 with leicester just the other day, that pretty much makes us equal champions, plus we have an fa cup final to turn up and play piss poorly in. we're clearly still ahead of spurs who could only beat us 3-0 when we weren't equal champions, they haven't beaten us since we sealed the title.
Can we please stop saying apple cart.
No. I did not say that "trend meant nothing". I said that "past form is not a reliable guide to the future", which this season (amongst others) has again shown. And my comments that you've quoted were clearly about more than just the one season ahead - as my references to Liverpool and complacency showed.
So yes, it's all there in black and white for all to see: .things have generally moved in the direction I predicted.
Meh. I'm pretty happy (apart from Arsenal's dreadful season). Do have a penchant for silly predictions and getting on my high horse though, I'll give you that.
Good for you. Now don't waltz in here and tell someone as to how to act considering your own posts here. Cheerio.
Look, either United have declined over the last 6 years or they haven't. Do you say haven't?
Over last 3 years. If we include Ferguson's final three years, those were all very good seasons. Since Ferguson left we've been absolute shambles in terms of running the club.
Well, OK. But not accepting where you are doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be able to change it. Maybe you will and maybe you won't.
I've said for a long while that United rely far too much on money-power, which has caused the neglect of some basics and is not as all-conquering as some believe.
Yes, I agree. I think most if not all of our fans accept that we're not where we want to be at the minute and the way back to the top won't be straightforward. What we've done for the past three years is terrible IMO and won't get us too far. I just mean that given our financial security we're bound to make it right at some point in the future, even after multiple attempts, because eventually we will get a manager in who will fix our problems and give us some stability. It's much more tricky when it's a smaller club who cannot really get several £30m transfers wrong because it'll put them in trouble, as things stand we can chop and change and not worry too much about not having money in the future to make changes again.
We've tried to buy our way back to the top and at the moment we simply cannot do that because a) we don't have the same pull Real Madrid and Barcelona do, hence cannot attract the very top talent who'd propel us into top quickly, b) we have not spend money too wisely and have appointed two managers who have not been able to get the best out of players.
Mourinho could give us short term success and stability before the next manager comes with longer term vision but I'm not fully convinced that's the way to go. Appointing director of football should be first step, someone to take care of long term. Ferguson used to do that.