Madrid don't give a feck, they just throw money at clubs until their bid gets accepted.
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His still just a promising youngster, can't see him developing while Madrid keep buying every flavor of the month.
Who is a phenomenal talent, it wasn't a hard choice to play him from an early age
So do PSG, tbf.
Plenty more than Madrid. Januzaj last season for example.
And we have bought stars as well. Or players capable of reaching that stature.
Its easy to throw money around when you have banks and goverment behind your back. Not to mention tv rights money, of which the largest part goes to Madrid and Barcelona.
He is injured right now, but he'll end up leaving in the next year or so i reckon.
It will be difficult for him to get a continuous run of game time with Rodriguez joining, but it would be stupidity to let him go. Not like that would effect Madrid, they'll just buy him back if he realises his potential elsewhere.
Nope, but it will now after what they've spent on Bale and Rodriguez, as well as Ronaldo's presence of course.
They haven't had the Glazers sucking money from them for the last decade. Also, they get unfair advantage with TV money in Spain.
Potentially a blessing in disguise for them, as he returns when the games come thick and fast. Granted, he will probably leave though.
Didn't Jesse keep Bale/someone else on the bench for a period? He's a absolutely phenomenal talent who Ancellotti will continue to see develop, he's still injured though, but he had a shout for getting into the spain squad if I recall correctly?
Madrid are absolute boss in the transfer market though, their fans must love the summer.
Madrid are absolute boss in the transfer market though, their fans must love the summer.
Wow 1 player? Madrid also had Jesse and Marotta in the first team, so I have no idea what you're talking about when you say Januzaj. We haven't had a lot of talent coming through the academy at all.
We should be seeking to emulate Bayern in terms of signings/on pitch strategy. Not Madrid anyway. They are just silly.
Actually, if you see our trophy count last 10 years we are ahead of them and in a more competitive league in that period with more money in it.
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Exactly. Spunking silly money on players every year doesn't guarantee success. It helps though, obviously.
Who else apart from Januzaj?
Morata has been sold to Juve, unless you missed it.
And in terms of academy players Welbeck, Cleverley, Evans, Fletcher all count amongst others. We are not talking about the talent coming through but playing them in the first team.
Cleverley, Welbeck ? Surely it's not that hard.
Jonny Evans, Danny Welbeck, Tom Cleverley, Darren Fletcher...
Even if they have players from academy they quickly sell them after a season or 2..
I know who we've brought through, but cleverley isn't good enough for us and the jury is still out on welbeck. That's my point.
Cleverley ffs.
Yeah, clearly Madrid are idiots buying top players on any position, when they can do like us and stick with average academy players like Cleverley and Welbeck and hope that one morning they will wake up and play like Bobby Charlton and George Best.
We'd be the biggest in the world if we were bankrolled by every bank in Madrid and took 45% of tv rights...
That's hardly the point; all those players have the potential to go to another PL team or another league abroad and do very well - just because the bar at United is exceptionally high doesn't mean they are bad players.
There is a definite progression from the Academy to the first team, even if it's only for a few limited appearances. Not every player can be a Januzaj!
You said we haven't had any from the academy in our first team which has been proven untrue. Cleverley played as a starter in title winning teams and Welbeck has played a crucial squad role as well. So has Evans. That's not even going back further back.
Whether you think they are good enough or not, is besides the initial point anyway.
I think Madrid's revolving door mentantilty has costs them over the recent past. CLubs that succeed are usually pretty stable in terms of having continuity of staff and players. The president likes to buy shiny new toys every year, whether they need them or not.
Case in point - a great season last year with DI Maria being one of the better players, elbeit playing of of position in midfield at times, in order to suit the system. Now he's being moved on for a player who a good World Cup who, desipte his talent, has the potential to give the manager a head ache in terms of fitting him in.
They should look at what Barca have achieved with continuity and a system in place.
It shouldn't be besides the point though. Real should not be criticised for not bringing players of the standard of Cleverley through the ranks, neither should we deserve special praise for doing so. He does not belong at either club, so it's a silly point to celebrate the fact that we play him every week.
Jese has come through and done well, and Carvajal started a CL final. They have had others get a chance and prove not to be good enough over the years too, so they leave. We keep ours out of tradition.
Yeah of course it doesn't mean they're bad players, but that wasn't my point either.
You will eat your words regarding Wellbeck
Forget about Hummels and Reus it´s there physio we should be bidding for.
The point was under Sir Alex we balanced bringing in players through the academy, developing young players bought from outside and also being succesful more than Madrid in last decade or so in a richer and more competitive league with higher standards now after Oil money.
I don't wanna debate the merits of Cleverley here but he is definitely good enough to be a squad player at United and was better than what he has been last year or so. As for Madrid, Jese is pretty good talent and so is Isco and Illaramendi who they spunked so much cash on last summer and Di Maria just had his best season for them in a crucial tactical role. But they went and spunked money on Kroos and Rodriguez both who will now block these and in Rodriguez' case aren't necessarily that much better either. 1 or 2 times, this could be understood in special circumstances and even more so if the players were really young but they do it season after season and it's basically their policy.
Jese is injured right now but will end up leaving next year or so. Morata has already left for Juve. Carvajal is basically the only one and he came back because he was cheap on buyback for a defender and they wanted to spend on Bale + Isco/Illaramendi.
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5 million i think.
Jesus first Snodgrass, Bendtner and now this guy Kramer who we had probably never heard of until about 2 weeks ago. Just how many players are going to move clubs this summer without us making a bid, its a disgrace.
Seriously ? I'd be very surprised if Benfica paid us anything near that.
Why? He had a good season last year in the Portuguese league
It won't be that much.
Because he's a year left on his contract and is taking a wage cut to join in the first place. They're not gonna splash out £5m on Bebe because of one good season at Pacos.
I see, wasn't aware he only had a year left to be honest.
Yeah like that would happen, if Arsenal try to drive any sort of hard bargain for Vermaelen we should just tell them to stick it. Good player but not worth haggling over.Euros or Pounds?
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