I accept that these kids don't exist in a bubble, even if their situation isn't their conscious motivation. Basically everything about this stinks, right down to the Caftards who want the army to go Rambo on them.
UK Riots (with the exception of Manchester which has its own thread)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I accept that these kids don't exist in a bubble, even if their situation isn't their conscious motivation. Basically everything about this stinks, right down to the Caftards who want the army to go Rambo on them.
Bbc.
So it's ok for rioters to burn peoples livelihoods down, intimidate innocent people, even break into their houses without fear of any repercussions? Bollocks.
Shoot them with rubber bullets, non lethal, yet I would say many of them don't deserve to be blessed with a life.
If that makes me a fool, then fool me once...
Great pics Elvis and Nick.
i just heard the same! in Hansworth!
Based on my brief sojourn with the ones in Bayswater tonight, I'd say they're not angry. I mean, obviously some will be angry people. But as a group, they weren't angry. They seemed like bored kids waiting for the entertainment to start.
If I was in London right now, my first instinct would be to go to The Winchester, have a nice pint, and wait for all of this to blow over...
This isn't going to blow over any time soon.
I am hearing off Facebook that there is trouble in Liverpool and a Police Station in Birmingham has been damaged.
Some pics on Twitter too apparently.
Some pics on Twitter too apparently.
no I am not saying its right and you did not say plastic bullets and yes there could be a case to use them .
Even they can still kill , I know something has to happen and quickly.
I will give apologies for the fool comment , I dont think you are to be honest.
I had similar zombie survival thoughts earlier. Utterly mental, kids without cause.
cheers saw your second posting about it , after mine
The police station in Birmingham is on fire. This is a picture from Toxteth apparently
Pass a new law... ''the right to give birth is not a free right anymore''. I think it's fair considering the "yutes" on road these days. I mean you cnuts get paid to have babies who feck up my city WITH MY TAX MONEY.
I say shoot them all and stick their remains in the museum with Stalin.
I say shoot them all and stick their remains in the museum with Stalin.
Nothing, it was self explanatory, it was about granting the police more power. He's right, it's never wise as a reaction to things like this.
From Rooney
I just hope it doesn't spread to Trumpton.
Liverpool breaking out now apparently.
In Toxteth
In Toxteth
Mark Stone is the sky reporter.
He was at home in bed when it all kicked off and he decided to come outside and work and show what's going on.
He was at home in bed when it all kicked off and he decided to come outside and work and show what's going on.
yup heard news of Liverpool getting it now! fecking hell, have a feeling Manchester will soon follow!
I see Ken Livingstone got a lot of stick earlier in this thread, but he seems to be speaking a lot of sense about the underlying social causes in the comments being replayed on BBC News right now?
Christ this is insane. Shit like this is unheard of here in Adelaide.
Surreal.
Surreal.
there are pics of the Liverpool stuff on Sky , shocking
from Twitter.Dear BNP, take note of the Turkish, Kurdish & Asian communities fighting back on the streets of London. For Britain. Against scum. Like you.
Theyre moving up the uxbridge road.
Westfields shouldnt even open tomorrow.
Westfields shouldnt even open tomorrow.
Liverpool breaking out now.
only a matter of time
I agree and got called a WUM in the newbs thread for saying as much.
He's using it to play partisan politics.
from facebook:
the way things are going africa will be hosting comic relief 4 london.
the way things are going africa will be hosting comic relief 4 london.
Boris Johnson would be saying the same thing if Ken Livingstone was the current mayor of London.
Whatever Ed Milliband is planning on saying tomorrow, Cameron would be saying if Ed Milliband was the PM etc etc.
It's easy for a politician to talk about stuff when they're not in power a la any politicians pre-election BS.
Horrible stuff going on. Hope all Caftards around England are safe and sound, and that they get this shit under control as soon as possible!
Politics is by its very nature partisan. And his comments about the danger of police cuts at this time, and the nature of social disenfranchisement felt amongst youth were bang on.
Murdoch is laughing he will be off the news.
The thing is of course this is to do with lack of education, opportunities, self respect and the materialistic world we live in but its not simple cause and effect, the kids don't know why they hate the world, which is the sadder part in all this.
That is how bad britain has got. That instead of people crying out for opportunities, they don't know they need them and they don't have the self respect to ask.
I've been attacked by 10/15 13 year olds with poles before. Scariest thing ever.
That is how bad britain has got. That instead of people crying out for opportunities, they don't know they need them and they don't have the self respect to ask.
I've been attacked by 10/15 13 year olds with poles before. Scariest thing ever.
It's what politicians do when they're not in power, talk perfect sense until they get there. They always have the right answers and the right opinions when they're campaigning.
I mentioned plastic bullets earlier, but fair enough the thread is busy.
What would you suggest needs to happen?
The reality is that the police are definitely overstretched and can't deal with everything. That said, where there is a police presence, I would instruct them to go hard into the rioters and rule with an Iron Fist.
The military can be drafted in, as others have said just to add a 'presence' or a fear factor for the rioters. Some would inevitably still stay, but the vast majority of these little cnuts who have nothing better to do than just get involved and make a mess would ultimately scarper.
As I said earlier, I think there is more to this than just youths rioting. Someone at some level benefits from this.
That is stupid, but there should be a written test to become a parent instead of just the physical