That's a good point. I'd imagine he's looking into all that sort of stuff now, before his preparation for the WC starts.
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That's a good point. I'd imagine he's looking into all that sort of stuff now, before his preparation for the WC starts.
I wouldn't be surprised if it took him more than a year to get us back on track. Unless we have some deals wrapped up already, it will be difficult for LVG to bring in new players over the summer considering its a World Cup year and what not. He will have even less time than Moyes did to bed in. Hopefully he already knows who he wants and who needs to leave.
This. Good results and performances on the pitch are infinitely more important than the "United way" BS that Neville keeps spouting off about.
Hopefully this guy isn't going to be afraid to give this squad a whole new identity, which is what we need desperately right now. There honestly aren't many in a 25+ man squad that are good enough to stick around.
Yup, the change will be so big that it might take a season to settle in, although not having to worry about EL helps. I would like to think fans will be a bit more patient this time around.
I wasn't convinced but now I'm fully on board. We need a strong manager to come in and shake shit up.
We need a manager who can come in and organise and breathe into the team not just new life but a new form of identity. The need for experience wasn't proven today it's been evident for a while. There's only so far a friendly face and a medal's haul show and tell can get you.
there s a big difference between watching players on the pitch (like anybody else) and know what actually is going on behind the scenes. Getting to really know someone and build a relationship with him may take time
You should have some idea. Unless you're casually watching teams without any proper analysis, it is expected you should know most players strengths and weaknesses.
It's the biggest part of preparing a team against a particular opposition, analysing their players.
Moyes should have known more (maybe he did know more than he was letting on and was just talking shit for the cameras.)
If that's the case no club would be buying players because they would lack of the knowledge to commit themselves. Moyes has been following United for 10 years. He could have feedback from the founder of that team (SAF) and those who coach them on a day to day basis. No one was in a better position to take decisions then him.
He couldn't come soon enough. Major overhaul needed this summer and he looks like a suitable candidate to oversee it.
that s one of the reasons buying a new player involves risks- it s very difficult to predict how he ll get along with his new mates, staff etc
So do we expect an appointment on Monday or Thuesday?
Or Thriday, yes
And managing a club is risky. Sometimes you let players go and they end up doing well elsewhere. Sometimes what that player needs is actually a change of scenario in the first place.
In my opinion Moyes showed too much respect to this team. You cant blame him. He was a small time manager leading the champions, its only natural that he felt overwhelmed. Unfortunately such hesitation was interpreted as a weaknesses and the players ended up losing respect towards him. It also enforced the idea (which started before SAF left) that players can actually not perform on a regular rate and get away with it.
This season is a total wash. Nothing to play for. Players probably thinking about the world cup. They need fresh impetus and a huge kick up the arse. Above all they need fresh ideas.
I can't wait for Van Gall to come in, along with 3-5 new players.
I won't expect miracles, but I will expect to be competitive. Season can't end quickly enough as far as I am concerned.
I can't wait for Van Gall to come in, along with 3-5 new players.
I won't expect miracles, but I will expect to be competitive. Season can't end quickly enough as far as I am concerned.
I'm quite sure he would ask for that himself, the man carries a video analyst with him.
I'm sure he's watched some of our games from home knowing that he will potentially manage us next season. You don't need to be a football expert to know who needs to be shipped out.We share the same hopes of Manchester United being free of mediocre players. With the size of our club we should have the same quality on the field and on the bench as Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern. Almost half of our squad wouldn't make those team's benches let alone the starting 11!
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Louis van Gaal to offer Ryan Giggs coaching role at Manchester United
• Deal to make Van Gaal manager close to completion
• Giggs to make decision based on seniority of role
The Manchester United interim manager, Ryan Giggs, applauds the fans after the 1-0 defeat at home to Sunderland. Photograph: Martin Rickett/PA
Ryan Giggs will be offered a job by Louis van Gaal on his coaching staff when the Dutchman becomes Manchester United manager, with the deal to make the 62-year-old the permanent replacement of David Moyes close to completion.
Giggs is focused on United's final two matches of the season following a 1-0 defeat to Sunderland here in the Welshman's second game in charge as interim manager.
While a Seb Larsson strike in the first half consigned United to a first defeat under Giggs, the Welshman will consider the offer of Van Gaal, who will take over after managing Holland at the World Cup finals this summer, though any final decision may rest on the seniority of the role. He would not accept a token position similar to the one Moyes offered.
Danny Blind, Van Gaal's No2 with Holland, is not expected to follow him to Old Trafford as he has longer to run on his contract with the Dutch football association. Although Patrick Kluivert, another of Van Gaal's Holland staff, is set to join him at United, it would be a surprise if the former Ajax and Barcelona striker was made assistant manager as he has never undertaken that role.
With Giggs keeping his options open – including considering playing on for one more year with an extension on his current deal – it is thought he would seriously consider accepting the No2 position if Van Gaal were to ask him.
On Friday Giggs, who has played for United for 23 seasons, hinted he would not be afraid to leave the club, saying: "I have got to decide if I want to play or not, so there is no point thinking if I want to be an assistant or if I want to be a manager somewhere else."
After the defeat to Sunderland Giggs suggested he is being kept informed about off-field matters, with the 40-year-old stating he would offer input if consulted by Ed Woodward, the club's executive vice-chairman.
"I will concentrate on Tuesday night [when Manchester United host Hull] and if Ed or the board want to ask my opinion or advice on anything then I am willing to give it," he said.
• Deal to make Van Gaal manager close to completion
• Giggs to make decision based on seniority of role
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The Manchester United interim manager, Ryan Giggs, applauds the fans after the 1-0 defeat at home to Sunderland. Photograph: Martin Rickett/PA
Ryan Giggs will be offered a job by Louis van Gaal on his coaching staff when the Dutchman becomes Manchester United manager, with the deal to make the 62-year-old the permanent replacement of David Moyes close to completion.
Giggs is focused on United's final two matches of the season following a 1-0 defeat to Sunderland here in the Welshman's second game in charge as interim manager.
While a Seb Larsson strike in the first half consigned United to a first defeat under Giggs, the Welshman will consider the offer of Van Gaal, who will take over after managing Holland at the World Cup finals this summer, though any final decision may rest on the seniority of the role. He would not accept a token position similar to the one Moyes offered.
Danny Blind, Van Gaal's No2 with Holland, is not expected to follow him to Old Trafford as he has longer to run on his contract with the Dutch football association. Although Patrick Kluivert, another of Van Gaal's Holland staff, is set to join him at United, it would be a surprise if the former Ajax and Barcelona striker was made assistant manager as he has never undertaken that role.
With Giggs keeping his options open – including considering playing on for one more year with an extension on his current deal – it is thought he would seriously consider accepting the No2 position if Van Gaal were to ask him.
On Friday Giggs, who has played for United for 23 seasons, hinted he would not be afraid to leave the club, saying: "I have got to decide if I want to play or not, so there is no point thinking if I want to be an assistant or if I want to be a manager somewhere else."
After the defeat to Sunderland Giggs suggested he is being kept informed about off-field matters, with the 40-year-old stating he would offer input if consulted by Ed Woodward, the club's executive vice-chairman.
"I will concentrate on Tuesday night [when Manchester United host Hull] and if Ed or the board want to ask my opinion or advice on anything then I am willing to give it," he said.
All the papers are just re-wording the same article day after they. Why are we taking so long to complete this?
Probably because we think we can get Brian Clough.
Quality rant.
Sorry to spoil this majestic rant, but he is the worst coach to go out and buy players. Woody will buy the players according to Moyes's selection of players scouted. Van gaal will probably bring in 1-2 players that he knows are top class. He had football directors ho brought him the players.
I just hope that after the horror show that has been this season, the club realise that he needs a damn sight more than two years to steady this particular ship and offer him a long enough deal to ensure that he can right the previous wrongs...
Like others have said, if he gets the job, which is looking very likely, he needs to come in, sit down with the board, and say, these are not good enough, we need to move them on.
Get that sorted quickly, and then look at who to bring in.
That list could easily include: Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick, Cleverly, Anderson, Fletcher, Fellaini, Nani, Young, Valencia, Macheda, Bebe, Giggs, and Hernandez. Vidic will leave.
That is a list of 15 players that will have question marks over their heads at the end of the season.
Once he draws up a vision of what he wants, and how he wants to play it, he needs to bring in players that fit that system.
Forget what we have done in the past. Moyes tried to be a mini Fergie. We need a fresh approach in every aspect.
Even if we did sell 10 or so players, and only brought 5-7 in, we the potential lower amount of games next season, the depth won't be as important as in previous years.
The big problem is, the amount of changes in such a short time is unlikely, but definitely needed
Get that sorted quickly, and then look at who to bring in.
That list could easily include: Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick, Cleverly, Anderson, Fletcher, Fellaini, Nani, Young, Valencia, Macheda, Bebe, Giggs, and Hernandez. Vidic will leave.
That is a list of 15 players that will have question marks over their heads at the end of the season.
Once he draws up a vision of what he wants, and how he wants to play it, he needs to bring in players that fit that system.
Forget what we have done in the past. Moyes tried to be a mini Fergie. We need a fresh approach in every aspect.
Even if we did sell 10 or so players, and only brought 5-7 in, we the potential lower amount of games next season, the depth won't be as important as in previous years.
The big problem is, the amount of changes in such a short time is unlikely, but definitely needed
I hope we get him signed ASAP. Hand him 100m budget net and he can definitely put us back in title mix next season. Might not win it but that will at least ensure getting back in CL.
I'm quite sure he would ask for that himself, the man carries a video analyst with him.
More about this you might find in the following interviews with Hermann Gerland from 2010 - mainly about van Gaal and his training. Hermann Gerland has been the U23-coach who since van Gaal works as assistent for the Bayern professionals. (at the time of the second interview in 2010/11 he worked as U23-coach and as assistant of the first team)
http://www.welt.de/sport/fussball/article5928144/Was-Bayern-Trainer-van-Gaal-sagt-stimmt-immer.html
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/interview-mit-hermann-gerland-er-ist-noch-besessener-1.980493
The interviews are in German. But if you put it into google translator you will get a decent and understandable translation.
Not realistic. It'll have to be a more phased approach imo. Half of it this summer, a new midfield and strengthen the defence, and then take it from there.
I agree that it won't happen. The problem is though, are we happy settling for 4th next season, or do we want to be challenging for the league again.
If we get rid of 5 players, and bring in 2 or 3, I don't expect us to challenge for the league, and it will be one of the first seasons we will go into it happy with 4th.
I'd love to see an overhaul of the squad, but yes, I don't expect it to happen
After watching today's display, 100% agree with this. With a new manager in charge, with all the feel good atmosphere around the club, you would think these players would show a little bit more fight, a little bit more class, but they were shocking. Their goalkeeper went off cleaner than when he came on the pitch. He did not have to save 1 shot in the entire game, not 1 shot.
Gave enough heat towards Moyes, now the players need to feel it as well. We need a total rebuild of the club, hopefully Van Gaal still has the fire to get that done and get the trash out of the club.
Wednesday is when he will be announced it seems. We can wait fellas.
I'm quite sure he would ask for that himself, the man carries a video analyst with him.
We share the same hopes of Manchester United being free of mediocre players. With the size of our club we should have the same quality on the field and on the bench as Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern. Almost half of our squad wouldn't make those team's benches let alone the starting 11!
You would think that if Rodgers analyzed Liverpool under Dalglish, he'd need to shipped out the whole team (bar one or two player) before he can challenge for the title, wouldn't you?
The sun saying he plans to bring in Robben when he takes over. I'll admit, the thought of a renowned European boss who has worked with the very best talent around coming in and using his contacts had crossed my mind, but is he really persuasive enough to get Robben to leave Bayern? I don't care if he is 30, we need players of his quality.
Robben is one of my favourite players but a massive cnut
If he does bring Robben then I'll have to bump that recent thread about hating players before they joined United
According to the newspapers he wants to bring in half of Bayern. Kroos would be nice though I do admit.
. Kroos would be nice though I do admit.I'd love him playing on our wings, quality player. He'd be our cnut & very much a major boost to the speed & ability to beat a man that we appear to lack. The fans would love him.
Robben!? feck that. We're losing our identity as a club. Are we just going to compete with City and Chelsea by seeing who can buy the trophy? I really don't like what we're becoming. At least buy good young players that can go on to be remembered as great United players. These players have already achieved it all elsewhere.
Why does everyone sound so certain that hes coming to us?
3 month ago Robben signed a contract extension till 2017. He´ll end the ambitious part of his career in Munich.
Sadly it's the only way to go. Otherwise we just end up as a feeder club.
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