I can imagine it being similar to his relationship with SAF as well.
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Apparently the two are quite pally.
Agreed. I doubt Brenton and MouMou are still top pals now Liverpool are competing for things.
Exactly. Some very limited knowledge being displayed by some here.
So the first time we appoint someone without experience at this level and with no formal interview process and it's a bit of a mess. To try to make sure we don't stuff it up again we are ultra cautious, only this time we lose a world class manager because he's sick us fannying about. Both are examples of incompetence. Why o why can't we just have a happy medium. It's called competence. And I for one am starting to get really worried now.
Is this about LvG and Mourinho? If so, I don't think they'll be as pally when the two are going toe to toe for the league. It's one thing being mates when you see each other once in a few years, but when you see each other talking about the title, your players etc. week in week out, your loyalties are somewhat altered.
You're getting ahead of yourself...
Not the "he's putting his house up for sale/rent" muppetry.
Remember when it was falsely reported last year that Ronaldo was selling his house? Let's not turn this into another muppet saga.
What's next? Checking flights from Amsterdam to Manchester?
Remember when it was falsely reported last year that Ronaldo was selling his house? Let's not turn this into another muppet saga.
What's next? Checking flights from Amsterdam to Manchester?
I remember the Javi Martinez story in Munich. The journalists were camping at the airport and in front of Doc Müller-Wohlfahrt's doctor house. Then he finally came with a private flight in the night...
I thought he was rather average-ish TBF. Ah though you might be right, I saw him maybe 5-10 times max.
My point kinda was that Giovanni may not be qualified enough to pass such sweeping judgement on Van Gaal. The man is a reputed taskmaster granted isn't afraid to axe the slackers granted. And he's certainly not without fault but this article paints him as a petty, conniving character when in fact a majority of his ex-players and coaches have some kind words for him. Guess I'm feeling annoyed because he's odds on to be our next manager and we have to stand behind him now.
Van Gaal gives the impression that he doesn't like certain types of players. Didn't he tell Riquelme that he "wasn't my player" when he started his second stint at Barca?
I can't see anyone he would dislike in our squad, in terms of work rate, though. We have a few hardworking players whose weaknesses are their technical ability.
Fine. Ignoring the dubious taste aspect, it was kind of a stupid and irrelevant post.
The grammar was impeccable though.
Pfff, yeah... loads of managers are 'good friends' with Mourinho until they actually have to play against him regularly.
Riquelme said he was glad he was honest that he said that rather than put him on the bench though. I think he literally meant you are not my player rather than not his kind of player.
I really don't think this is as badly drawn out as people think it is. The whole reason we appointed an interim manager until the end of the season was so that we had time and space to get the right man in and I still think that's the case.
Even if Giggs isn't in the running for the job permanently, it wouldn't sit right with me us confirming our next manager whilst he still has a game to see out. It might just be sentimentality kicking in but I don't think that would be fair on Giggs.
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Even if Giggs isn't in the running for the job permanently, it wouldn't sit right with me us confirming our next manager whilst he still has a game to see out. It might just be sentimentality kicking in but I don't think that would be fair on Giggs.
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Steve Bates is quite reliable. Interesting that LVG is worried about Fergie influence on the club.
I think the whole Fergie interference is overplayed, it's just a lazy assumption made based on Fergie's stubbornness - especially when you consider that he's always championed the idea of a manager having full control of the team and emphasized importance of higher-ups not getting involved. If anything he can be too lenient and that might've rung true with Moyes.
The only worry is that he's against LvG getting the job, otherwise he can only be of a help to him.
The only worry is that he's against LvG getting the job, otherwise he can only be of a help to him.
Ah fair enough you're right about the Riquelme fiasco. But then again Van Gaal has a certain brand of football and as with any new manager there are bound to be some players that don't fit his style. eg Jose preferred Oscar to Mata even though the latter is a world class playmaker. And Ancelotti never really took a liking to Ozil leading to his departure from Real. It's nothing personal though, it's just Riquelme laid back artisan style wasn't compatible with Van Gaal's high intensity system.
And you're spot on with the assessment that our squad is full of hard workers. So we shouldn't have a problem with players being cast off barring a lack of technical quality. I'm especially looking forward to what he does with Welbeck who's an unpolished diamond.
It would be brilliant if United announced Van Gaal as the manager at six o'clock this evening and maybe a high profile signing as well just to take some of the attention away from the winners
Nah, won't happen. More likely, we'll get an announcement tomorrow. I think we'll announce signings early, i.e. before the World Cup, but not this early.
Hopefully the club have learned from last Summer's fiasco. I hope Giggs is appointed as Assistant, purely because it'll allow us to be proactive in planning for next season, even with LvG in Brazil. Hopefully, all our signings will be in the bag and ready to have a full pre-season, so they can hit the ground running.
The Ogmeister is on Sunday Supplement. Let's see if the oracle has any news.
Post an update in here if he says anything, fella.
Ogden is on Sunday Supplement, he thinks it will be at least next Wednesday/Thursday before anything is announced. Feck me this seems to be taking forever.
Wed or Thurs he'll be here according to him.
They've been saying he will be announced as the next manager every Wednesday for about 3 weeks.
Apparently he's got a Dutch national team conference on Tuesday so nothing will happen until after that. I guess we have to wait a bit longer but this is getting ridiculous, he's been nailed on for the job since before Moyes was sacked yet nothing is getting finalised.
What does it matter? Two or three days after the season finishes is a fine time to announce it
Exactly. Everyone needs to chill the feck out.
Thursday seems unlikely as won't Van Gaal be in pre-match preparation with the Dutch squad for their match on Saturday. It'd be quite a turnaround to go from not wanting United business to be a distraction for preparation and then taking time out of preparation for a world cup warm up match to be unveiled as the new United manager.
Something just doesn't ring true here. With all what happened last season in the market and our delayed start, we have been able to announce (if it's as much of a formality as has been suggested) the new manager for quite a while now but we're refusing to for no other reason other than we want to? It just doesn't make sense. If it's not done early next week I'd doubt it'll be done at all until after the Dutch friendly vs Equador on 17/05 which'll mean it'll run into the week beginning the 19/05.
It just seems very odd for something that's apparently such a foregone conclusion, for there to be self-inflicted delays to constantly push things back. If you don't have to delay, why would you? Yet we (or he, or both) seem to be willing to. If it is all agreed there's nothing to stop us from giving a short statement announcing him and saying they'll be a further announcement after the world cup.
I don't get where the logic in getting the last home game or the end of the season or the Dutch friendly or the Spring Bank Holiday or the summer equinox out of the way first before you do that. There has to be a reason why we're delaying this and don't think any of the reasons given yet are particularly compelling. We won't announce it out of respect of someone who was only ever made interim manager and spoke at his last press conference at not being disappointed at being overlooked for it on a full-time basis? I don't buy that for a second. Especially from a club that announced David Moyes when he was still at Everton with a game to spare.
I'm not saying I don't think van Gaal will arrive; I'm still expectant of that. But us delaying for no real credible reason whatsoever does seem fishy.
Something just doesn't ring true here. With all what happened last season in the market and our delayed start, we have been able to announce (if it's as much of a formality as has been suggested) the new manager for quite a while now but we're refusing to for no other reason other than we want to? It just doesn't make sense. If it's not done early next week I'd doubt it'll be done at all until after the Dutch friendly vs Equador on 17/05 which'll mean it'll run into the week beginning the 19/05.
It just seems very odd for something that's apparently such a foregone conclusion, for there to be self-inflicted delays to constantly push things back. If you don't have to delay, why would you? Yet we (or he, or both) seem to be willing to. If it is all agreed there's nothing to stop us from giving a short statement announcing him and saying they'll be a further announcement after the world cup.
I don't get where the logic in getting the last home game or the end of the season or the Dutch friendly or the Spring Bank Holiday or the summer equinox out of the way first before you do that. There has to be a reason why we're delaying this and don't think any of the reasons given yet are particularly compelling. We won't announce it out of respect of someone who was only ever made interim manager and spoke at his last press conference at not being disappointed at being overlooked for it on a full-time basis? I don't buy that for a second. Especially from a club that announced David Moyes when he was still at Everton with a game to spare.
I'm not saying I don't think van Gaal will arrive; I'm still expectant of that. But us delaying for no real credible reason whatsoever does seem fishy.
Drama Queens.
There's no drama at all. Either it's not as definite as media reports suggest or we're delaying for the fun of it. There has to be a reason for the delay when an announcement could take seconds. First it was the last home game, then it was the end of the season. What next, do we not want to announce it before the first bulbs of the season emerge?
It's not being a 'drama queen' to look at the situation and suggest that it's possible things aren't as straight forward as we think
They are waiting until Man City win the league to announce it - to show that everyone cares more about who Manchester United's next manager is than City winning the league. You know it's true
I'm still worried. I desperately hope I'm wrong. but I'm with Plugsy. I don't understand the delay or any real reason for it.
That's because you've not been given the reason for the delay. What is there to worry about? IF we want him, we've got him.
They are waiting until Man City win the league to announce it - to show that everyone cares more about who Manchester United's next manager is than City winning the league. You know it's true
Probably. The Moyes sacking story took up more media coverage than all the other football for a couple of weeks.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/sport/football/Premiership/article1409573.ece
The Times are reporting that LVG might bring Rene back.
The Times are reporting that LVG might bring Rene back.
They are just going to wave a Dutch flag at anything for the time being to fill the papers.
I was going to post this in another thread and brought it here. You've said most of it but I had to vent.....
When , if ever, will LVG be appointed? If he's the guy what is the hold up? Every day the press acts like it's a foregone conclusion and for at least two weeks it has been "Van Gaal expected to be appointed manager early next week".Apparently they've made a run at Klopp and Ancellotti. Are they waiting for the season to end? Are they chasing shadows and we wind up with our fifth choice? This is starting to make me crazy.
When , if ever, will LVG be appointed? If he's the guy what is the hold up? Every day the press acts like it's a foregone conclusion and for at least two weeks it has been "Van Gaal expected to be appointed manager early next week".Apparently they've made a run at Klopp and Ancellotti. Are they waiting for the season to end? Are they chasing shadows and we wind up with our fifth choice? This is starting to make me crazy.
Tancredi has spoken. 11AM tomorrow. LVG will meet to sign the contract.
BOOM!
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