United linked with van Gaal in the meeja

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Why because we failed under Moyes' outdated spam-sandwiches tactics are we suddenly labelled a team of big egos and slackers?

Because all our players are big time charlies & lazy prima donna's who got good old David honest Moyes sacked and never gave him a chance innit.

It must be the players fault because obviously it had nothing to do with Moyes being a bit of balloon, he worked really hard you know, i mean really hard. And hes such a decent chap.
 
Because all our players are big time charlies & lazy prima donna's who got good old David honest Moyes sacked and never gave him a chance innit.

It must be the players fault because obviously it had nothing to do with Moyes being a bit of balloon, he worked really hard you know, i mean really hard. And hes such a decent chap.

He's a proper dickhead isn't he. I can't stand him. People going on about how nice he is and thanking him for being a total disaster at United just makes it even worse.
 
WAIT IF CONTE COMES, DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE A CHANCE TO SIGN VIDAL? Aren't they in good terms? OMG OMG OMG OMG. The dream could become a reality.
 
He's a proper dickhead isn't he. I can't stand him. People going on about how nice he is and thanking him for being a total disaster at United just makes it even worse.

Well i don't know about proper dickhead thats a bit strong i don't know the guy personally. But on a professional level i do think hes a bit of a tube, and some of the defending of the man and his character on here even after he has been sacked has been a bit cringe worthy for me. A lot of the same people seem to have no problem calling our players every name under the sun.

Baffled me what people were thanking him for after his contribution to this disaster of a season and the damage it has done to the club.

But i guess some people were so invested in the idea of the Moyesiah they can't let go, some have had their tongues so far up his ring all season that it might be a good idea for them to follow him to whatever mid-table club he lands up at in the next 6-12 months. If that club gives him time say 2-3 years he will have them challenging for err.. maybe 6th or 7th. Or at least he'll try.
 


Just watching this video of him, he says he usually always plays 4-3-3 and always looks to keep continuity of coaching staff when he joins a club

That is actually the right thing to do for any manager going to a new club. They should do it for at least one season before they bring in new staff of their own.
 
Blanc would be a disaster. Dunno about Conte; would be a bold choice and could go either way. van gaal is under average but for 1-2 years acceptable.

Van Gaal is under average?

What..? He's had a huge hand in what Bayern are today, and very almost won the treble with them just 4 years ago.
 
Louis Van Gaal, the new manager of Manchester United. That sounds about right.

United've been mostly successful with the Dutches. Seems like their footballing ethos matches ours. Could LVG continue this tradition? Ha..
 
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his work at bayern is quite overrated but i wrote that already somewhere else. He was sacked at the 29th match-day of his second season. If you rate the first season so highly, you should also recognize the complete disaster in the second one. We went out in the round of 16 against a incredible poor Inter. We lost in the semifinals of the cup against Schalke and we were on the verge of missing the CL (4th spot in the league after the 29th matchday; behind Dortmund, Leverkusen and Hannover).
Even the 08/09 campaign with Klinsmann, which was a complete disaster wasnt that bad.
 
He's not going to be here this long anyway.

He's 62 and if he doesn't get United job will be retiring.

He will come in and provided it's not a disaster will pick the club back up and put the foundations of younger players and the academy system back in place and then after 2-3 seasons will probably retire to make way for the proper long term manager whoever that may be.
 
I know a few of us had been wondering about his backroom staff, this is it currently at the Netherlands:

Assistant Manager - Danny Blind
Assistant Manager - Patrick Kluivert
Goalkeeping Coach - Frans Hoek
Fitness Coach - Rene Wormhoudt
Team Manager - Hans Jorritsma
Head Scout - Ronald Spelbos
Physician - Gert-Jan Goudswaard
Physiotherapist - Arno Philips
Other Staff - Rob Koster
................- Carlo De Leeuw

Blind's staying on with the Netherlands, how many of the others follow him around I don't know.
 
I know a few of us had been wondering about his backroom staff, this is it currently at the Netherlands:

Assistant Manager - Danny Blind
Assistant Manager - Patrick Kluivert
Goalkeeping Coach - Frans Hoek
Fitness Coach - Rene Wormhoudt
Team Manager - Hans Jorritsma
Head Scout - Ronald Spelbos
Physician - Gert-Jan Goudswaard
Physiotherapist - Arno Philips
Other Staff - Rob Koster
................- Carlo De Leeuw

Blind's staying on with the Netherlands, how many of the others follow him around I don't know.

Apparently he will bring Kluivert. We'd finally sign Kluivert.
 
Here are some epic Van Gaal quotes.. Some of them are quite hilarious really. See the bolded ones below. :D

"I know I'm a very good coach."
His self-belief abounds

"I'm the best!"
More of the same, after winning the Eredivisie title with Alkmaar

"The Bavarian attitude to life suits me perfectly. Why? [Bayern Munich's club motto is] 'Mia san mia,’ 'We are who we are' and I am who I am: confident, arrogant, dominant, honest, hard-working and innovative."
At his first press conference as Bayern Munich coach

"In the Netherlands, being arrogant just means having a lot of self-confidence."
On his public image

"I have the body of a God. Lederhosen suit me. But I also have a belly."
With a hint of irony ahead of one of Bayern Munich's now traditional visits to the Oktoberfest

"I have the body of a God, but not like Mario Gomez."
Failing to match up to the powerfully-built Germany striker

"If I were a God, I would win everything. I'm no God."
On his irony and himself

"I told the board we would celebrate winning every title. I'm a party animal."
On victory celebrations with Bayern

"I'm delighted for the fans that we're celebrating today. I'm always the one who turns off the lights at the end."
Following a Bayern victory over Hamburg

"I'm also a Christmas animal."
Looking forward to spending time with his family ahead of the winter break

"I've never worn anything like that. I'm never cold. I'm hot-blooded, my wife says so too. We always sleep spooning."
On Arjen Robben's habit of wearing leggings in winter

"When I think I've made an error, it can cause me a sleepless night. But that only happens rarely."
On the difficulties of getting over mistakes

"When players come up to me and say how great it is to work with me, that's more important to me than any paycheck."
How he prefers recognition to money

"If we can strengthen our squad, we'll buy. But I'm not the kind of coach who just goes out and buys for the sake of it. I'm a coach who wants to - and can - improve players."
On his philosophy as a coach

"Humans are insignificant here among all these mountains and the lake. I think that's wonderful."
During a Bayern Munich training camp at the idyllic Lake Garda

"I hope the level of desire is greater than their fatigue. But the body isn't as strong as the spirit. And we have some wimps."
On his players' physical condition

"Running is for animals. You need a brain and a ball for football."
On his basic approach to the game

"I am the way I am and I've not got an easy-going manner. But I'm not going to change my personality just because some people want me to."
Discussing his style of leadership

"If another coach were to come in, whose record can compare with mine? Who would need to come? [Sir Alex] Ferguson has won more titles than me. Maybe [Fabio] Capello too. But they’re both busy."
During a time of crisis at Bayern Munich

"Sport isn’t just about technique, but also about strategy and personality. I always have a strategy."
On the sometimes highly competitive tennis matches against his wife Truus

"Money doesn’t make you happy. It is an important part of making you feel happy, but for me recognition is more important, especially recognition from the players."
On his relationship with his charges

http://www.fifa.com/newscentre/features/news/newsid=1712197/
 
Klopp has publicly denied he wants it, as has Guadiola as far as I'm aware. Conte and Blanc have expressed an intrest. van Gaal, at least recently, hasn't said a word. I think that's telling.
 
That is actually the right thing to do for any manager going to a new club. They should do it for at least one season before they bring in new staff of their own.
Van Gaal replaces all but one member of the coaching staff in key positions...That's the "continuity" he's talking about. Moyes did the same in Giggs.
 
Conte is an interesting option and one which potentially offers long term prospects. But does he have the commanding presence that will be needed to get us back up to speed? I don't know much about him.

As for players that might flourish under van Gaal, I think Mata is a good pick. Rooney might get sidelined though.

Bring in RvG now!
 
I'm just not convinced about Blanc. I was pretty unimpressed by his French team and his work at PSG will have a question mark due to the vast sums he has to spend. His big chance to impress was the tie against Chelsea and in that second leg his negative tactics cost them. I think with both PSG and France he has shown a tendency to run out of ideas very quickly.

Conte would be good but I think Van Gaal's footballing philosophy fits more with United than Antonio's.

Klopp remains the ideal.

This. Klopp, then Van Gaal, then maybe Conte. Blanc is still unproven to me, so same problem we've just had in a way.
 
He does seem a bit mental. Dropping his trousers in the locker room, flipping off at the press. I'm okay with that though. He goes on gay pride marches too, so maybe that's a small snap-shot of forward-thinking philosophy he brings to his teams.
 
‘The focal point of training sessions is the ball itself,’ Seedorf said. ‘Only those who show perfect control of the ball in every situation are selected.’

Seedorf describes what van Gaal wanted from his players.
 
After reading up on him and watching interviews as well as his record, I honestly cant see another manager being a better choice at this point in time.

Im so convinced, that I think we will end up with Mourinho and it scares me that then Chelsea would get Van Gaal. The master always leaves one lesson out when teaching the protoge, in order to always know how to beat him.

It would be a right old mess with Mou here. Let him rot at Chelsea.
 
"Congratulations on getting the best coach in the world!" he declared to the director immediately after his appointment as Ajax boss - his first job as a head coach.

This man is nuts, really nuts. I am really hoping that we get him.
 
Rooney's fecked then.

Seedorf talks about the Ajax time. There he got his footballers from the Ajax academy who somehow has a similar teaching like La Masia. I do not think he expects the perfect passers for every position - but he has special ideas for it.

There is special position like the shadow peak with special roles - that is how he named Litmanen in the Ajax system and Müller in the Bayern system. Both played the position different - but they had different fellow players - in common they have that they played between defensive midfield and striker, had some tasks in the defense but were able to score and assist, that they are polyvalent very intelligent players with a high workrate. Litmanen was more an offensive midfielder with vertical movement and more a no. 10 - Müller is something in between a winger, hanging striker and offensive midfielder. (Müller probably played his role best in the 4:0 against Barcelona - even if this was with Heynckes his role was the same)

He has ideas for every of his positions. He likes the defenders being able to pass and make the build-up, full-backs on side of their feet (leftfooted leftback, rightfooted rightback). Loves to have a left-footed left centre back. Things like this. But he has a special footballing philosophy but not a fixed system. I know that he tried a lot in the first time at Bayern. 4-4-2 with diamond, Flat 4-4-2, 4-3-3 and then the 4-2-3-1 as it matched best to the players. The results at the beginning were not very good - it took some time to implement everything.

That is why I told that this year might be the best to make big changes. In the normal playing rhythm a top club has with 2 matches a week it is difficult to teach much because it is all about match preparation, travelling, playing and regeneration.

If van Gaal will get United coach it might be difficult on the beginning - but he somehow guarantees success on the long run.

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Raum schaffen - create space
bietet Anspielstation and Pässe - offers himself as pass receiver and passes
Zuspiele - passes
Spielpartner - playing partner

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That is an interesting article about van Gaal in German.
http://spielverlagerung.de/2011/07/05/louis-van-gaal-der-missverstandene/

It is an interesting read but I just do not want to translate it myself - too much work. Put it into google translator! The article was made in July 2011 - short after van Gaal's time at Bayern ended. The end of the article just shows a little how the people today (not in April 2011) saw the time of van Gaal at Bayern.
 
After reading up on him and watching interviews as well as his record, I honestly cant see another manager being a better choice at this point in time.

Im so convinced, that I think we will end up with Mourinho and it scares me that then Chelsea would get Van Gaal. The master always leaves one lesson out when teaching the protoge, in order to always know how to beat him.

Except in Champions' League Finals presumably... :D
 
I wonder if van Gaal (if he has the job - seems inevitable though) will bring in some previously unheralded Dutch player if he gets the job? Somebody he's been made aware of during his stint as national boss?
 
Van Gaal replaces all but one member of the coaching staff in key positions...That's the "continuity" he's talking about. Moyes did the same in Giggs.

No Moyes sacked or made the position of every staff untenable and then promoted Giggs as some sort of dress up. No where similar to what LvG says.
 
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