Varchester City 18/19 discussion

Che Guevara said:
I would like to see Liverpool win the title to reward all their hard work in recent years, but City are absolutely scary right now. The City bench is stronger than the starting line-ups of most PL teams.
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adexkola said:
Because I'm bored...

First XI

Sane Aguero Sterling

D.Silva Fernandinho De Bruyne

Mendy Laporte Stones Walker

Ederson
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Second XI

Jesus

Foden Mahrez

Gundogan Delph B. Silva

Zinchenko Kompany Otamendi Danilo

Muric
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I think there are 7 out of 19 teams who can field a starting 11 stronger than that second string.
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So you're saying he's correct.
 
I reckon that second XI would beat Arsenal.
 
Riz said:
Personally I wouldn't say so apart from possibly Everton. My reasoning being I think Otamendi, Silva, Gundogan, Mahrez, Jesus would already walk into those teams and there are arguments for Kompany and Danilo as well.
I think if coached solely then a side with Gundogan and Silva supplying Mahrez and Jesus would do a lot more damage than any of those 3 sides.
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How do you think this team below stack vs other teams in the league if properly coached

------------------Romero
--------------Bailly-Jones-Rojo-
-(Dalot)Valencia--Pereira--Fred---Darmian
----------Mata-----Lukaku---Alexis
 
kaiser1 said:
How do you think this team below stack vs other teams in the league if properly coached

------------------Romero
--------------Bailly-Jones-Rojo-
-(Dalot)Valencia--Pereira--Fred---Darmian
----------Mata-----Lukaku---Alexis
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Higher mid table I reckon. The wide areas would be targeted a lot and create nothing, potentially decent fire power up front but it's not difficult to argue Mata and Alexis are over the hill and Lukaku's struggles aren't just down to bad form. I think the defence is fine, liable to a fair few feck ups but could be solid enough. The midfield would get overran relatively easily. Solid keeper. I'd say 7-10th.
 
kaiser1 said:
How do you think this team below stack vs other teams in the league if properly coached

------------------Romero
--------------Bailly-Jones-Rojo-
-(Dalot)Valencia--Pereira--Fred---Darmian
----------Mata-----Lukaku---Alexis
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Playing at other clubs they’d probably be pretty good but many of them are disaffected at United because they know they have no future at the club and will not be inclined to bust a gut for you.
Not a knock on United, most clubs have similar players in the squad.
 
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47257369

League Two Newport have never been past the fifth round of the competition, while City are five-time winners.

"They are taller and stronger than us. In some areas they will be better than us," warned Guardiola.

"They have done incredibly well in this competition. What they do, they do really well. We have watched many games to see what they do."
 
RedDevil@84 said:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47257369

League Two Newport have never been past the fifth round of the competition, while City are five-time winners.

"They are taller and stronger than us. In some areas they will be better than us," warned Guardiola.

"They have done incredibly well in this competition. What they do, they do really well. We have watched many games to see what they do."
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We lost last season to Wigan (for the third time in recent years). He wants no repeat of a passionate stadium, a pumped up team keeping it close then scoring with their only chance like last season.

He’s serious about winning everything he can. That doesn’t mean that he expects or anyone predicts that it will happen but he sure as hell will get the squad to bust a gut to try.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47268185

Phil Foden thinks they can win the quadrouple.

Why is it constantly so difficult for players not to spout shite like this? They're technically still 3 points behind Liverpool and haven't done anything in the Champions League yet to suggest they can get close to winning it...let alone winning both at the same time and winning the two domestic cups on top. They haven't even played the first leg of their CL tie yet!

When you're top of the league, and in both an FA cup and Champions League final you can start seriously talking about stuff like this, but we seem to here it every time a team makes it beyond Christmas without being completely out of contention.
 
I don’t see what’s wrong with it. If a journalist asks him the question and he responds: “Everything is going well at the moment and we can definitely win every competition but it is going to be difficult.”

What’s he supposed to say? “Nah, we’re shite”?
 
noodlehair said:
Phil Foden thinks they can win the quadrouple.

Why is it constantly so difficult for players not to spout shite like this? They're technically still 3 points behind Liverpool and haven't done anything in the Champions League yet to suggest they can get close to winning it...let alone winning both at the same time and winning the two domestic cups on top. They haven't even played the first leg of their CL tie yet!
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The Quad is virtually impossible under normal circumstances. How the season has gone so far though think City have a real chance. They've played nobody in the LC & FA Cup & are already in the final of one. The only serious contenders left in the FA Cup are us & Chelsea & one of us obviously won't be getting through to the next round. If they get more easy draws they will have had a serene route to the final. They were in a poor CL group & have got a good draw in Schalke. They will very likely draw the winner of Porto/Roma in the Quarters. The big teams left in the competition are also not as strong as in previous years. The PL is a 50/50 call at this time. It will only take a couple of injuries for Liverpool for it to swing massively in City's favour.

Many think the Quad is impossible due to comparing it with how difficult our treble was. The quality of opposition we faced throughout our treble made it seem like it couldn't be done. We were knocked out of the LC by Spurs. We had a superb Arsenal team chasing us down in the league but won by a point. We had both Bayern & Barca in our CL group. After getting through this we then had Inter, Juve & Bayern waiting for us. In the FA Cup we knocked out Liverpool, Chelsea & Arsenal on our way to a Newcastle final. It would be nigh on impossible for any team to do the Treble again let alone the Quad with a run like this. City's run so far has been extraordinarily easy. If their luck continues the Quad could be done.
 
noodlehair said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47268185

Phil Foden thinks they can win the quadrouple.

Why is it constantly so difficult for players not to spout shite like this? They're technically still 3 points behind Liverpool and haven't done anything in the Champions League yet to suggest they can get close to winning it...let alone winning both at the same time and winning the two domestic cups on top. They haven't even played the first leg of their CL tie yet!

When you're top of the league, and in both an FA cup and Champions League final you can start seriously talking about stuff like this, but we seem to here it every time a team makes it beyond Christmas without being completely out of contention.
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RochaRoja said:
I don’t see what’s wrong with it. If a journalist asks him the question and he responds: “Everything is going well at the moment and we can definitely win every competition but it is going to be difficult.”

What’s he supposed to say? “Nah, we’re shite”?
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I agree.
That shithouse journalist tried it on with Mahrez (more experienced and fended the question off with a straight bat).
He then has a young inexperienced squad player, dresses up the question, Foden gives a positive answer and next thing
'Have you heard this cocky fecker? Thinks City will 'Definitely' win the quad'.

To me it's just shithouse journalism.

My view on the quadruple is no chance.

League Cup - The best chance, with one game to play on a big Wembley pitch.
But Chelsea will be no pushover, stung by that league defeat and Hazard turns up for big games.
They allso now have a fox in the box striker in Higuaín. Game could go either way.

FA Cup - It is what it is. You would think City, United or Chelsea will win it. But the FA Cup doesn't do stuff like that.
I fancy Wolves, which would kill Liverpool fans after Klopp bummed them out of the domestic cups, and played a few teenagers against an experienced Wolves outfit.

The League - Liverpool in the box seat. Had 2 Winter breaks now. They also have an easier run in, with only one game per week to play.
Similar to when Leicester won the league.
Leicester played something daft like 20 games less than the second place team (Arsenal).

Champions League - No chance. The competition is too tough. City's weak full back positions will get targeted and that will be it.
I also don't think that booing of the anthem, when that refereeing team is stood there with their nice shiny Yellow UEFA strips, goes down too well with the referee.
I know I would be thinking 'Who the feck do this lot think they are'? Bound to influence 50/50 decisions.

So with that summary, there is every chance we'd end up with nothing, never mind a quad!
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
5 wins in 24 knock-out CL away games and now 2-1 down against Schalke....that is so awful.......Guardiola isn't a genius!!!!
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Come on it's highly unlikely Schalke are knocking City out regardless of what the score is with the second half of the first leg still to play
 
charlenefan said:
Come on it's highly unlikely Schalke are knocking City out regardless of what the score is with the second half of the first leg still to play
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I thought they would win easily 6-0 at Schalke.......Schalke are the worst Last 16 round side since a long time.

He has coached the best Barca side ever, the best Bayern Munich side ever and the best Mancester City side ever......5 wins in 25 games would be embarrassing.
 
I guess Fernandinho only gets away with his fouling in the PL.
 
Why is Fernandinho playing in CB? Is it due to injuries, or is Pep just being Pep?
 
Keeps It tidy said:
It is probably great for them that Otamendi is out for the second leg.
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Yeah, I thought he was harshly booked for the pen but the second yellow was just stupid. Ferna is out too which might be a blessing giving him a weeks rest
 
I think they'll reach the final. Let's see who they draw next but whatever happens they are looking dangerous and to put it simply they have about four well tuned £50 million players on the bench most games.

Unfortunately I think they'll really ramp up the pressure starting by thumping Chelsea again on Sunday.
 
They definitely won't win the Champions League this year. But winning 3-2 after getting a man sent off was impressive.
 
tentan said:
They definitely won't win the Champions League this year. But winning 3-2 after getting a man sent off was impressive.
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Why won't they? The German teams don't look like much of a threat, Juve are disjointed, and the best looking team in Spain right now is Atletico. PSG are probably their biggest threat.

They're still favourites for me. Not by much, but still, how anyone can suggest that they "definitely won't win" it this year is crazy to me.
 
Tommy said:
Why won't they? The German teams don't look like much of a threat, Juve are disjointed, and the best looking team in Spain right now is Atletico. PSG are probably their biggest threat.

They're still favourites for me. Not by much, but still, how anyone can suggest that they "definitely won't win" it this year is crazy to me.
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You seriously consider Athletico the "best looking " team from Spain based on a total of 1 game ?
 
The Firestarter said:
You seriously consider Athletico the "best looking " team from Spain based on a total of 1 game ?
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I know it's not that simple, but I have watched quite a few La Liga games this season, & for me? Atletico beat Real over 2 legs, and Atletico vs Barca is a coin flip.

Either way, I don't see any team out there that's so good that City have no chance at the trophy. I'd back City before I backed any of the Spanish teams.
 
Tommy said:
I know it's not that simple, but I have watched quite a few La Liga games this season, & for me? Atletico beat Real over 2 legs, and Atletico vs Barca is a coin flip.

Either way, I don't see any team out there that's so good that City have no chance at the trophy. I'd back City before I backed any of the Spanish teams.
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In this tournament experience is everything. City against Barca or Real are out of it 8 times out of 10.
 
The Firestarter said:
In this tournament experience is everything. City against Barca or Real are out of it 8 times out of 10.
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City are experienced winners in their own right, albeit never in this competition. I value experience, but City right now are at/close to their absolute peak, while both Barca & Real, in some way or another, have slipped a bit.

We'll see, anyway. We shouldn't really rule out Schalke/Lyon/Ajax yet. Who knows what might happen.
 
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