Worried that they might win all 4 this season.
They’ll slap Chelsea on Sunday, realistically it’ll be up to us to stop them in the FA Cup.
They’ll slap Chelsea on Sunday, realistically it’ll be up to us to stop them in the FA Cup.
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Honestly I don't see any team from England being much better than Barcelona tbh.
I'll take them at 4/1 if that happens if you're offering it
In fact thats far bigger than they are now to win the whole tournament
I certainly think they will do the domestic treble.
Last time I saw a team play that well with ten was when Pep went to the Etihad with Bayern. Seemed to go up several gears.
I reckon a combined City/Barcelona XI would feature more City players.
KDB is often poor/average in CL and on the international stage. He needs to wake up. Schalke is a poor side ffs.
That’s honestly pathetic from Pep, I’d be fuming if I was a City fan and heard that. His back line alone cost about 200m, when will they be ready if not now?
City players have no experience. Before wining the CL you have to lose a few semifinals/finals. Pep is right. Pus they dont have better players than Barça/Madrid/PSG/Juve. They are at least the 5º favorite to win based on the level of the players.
Absolute gash. City have plenty of experience in that squad domestically, Internationally and in Europe.
I have a feeling he says these things without thinking. When are they going to be ready?
Pep went full Mourinho here. At least he has a top team of players
they reached the semis with Pellegrini a few years ago
I'm gonna put that down as silly mind games. Pretty sure he said something similar about winning the league.
How many CL semifinals have played? Only 1 Silva/Kun... thats not experience. CL is a totally different competition and is played differently than the domestic league games.
Of course no one read the article.
So basically, Pep is calling out his players' immaturity and nonchalance in certain games. The drop in intensity of their passing between games like Liverpool and Chelsea, and games like Newcastle and Schalke is glaring. And Pep is right, you get punished for that in the CL, where one mistake can put you out.
Pep is not faultless, but he would be stupid to not call out his team after they were bailed out by Sane's free kick. Surprisingly enough they played much better after being down to 10 men... Why couldn't they do this earlier?
He also needs to settle on a starting 11 he will ride on in the run-in. Until Mendy comes back, Sane and Sterling have to start. City are not as good when you don't have the width stretching the backline and creating space for the Silvas and De Bruyne to thread balls in. Laporte cannot be moved from CB, and Fernandinho can't be moved from DM. And finally he needs to settle on which two out of the Silvas and De Bruyne will start. De Bruyne still looks rusty but his ability in the squad is unique. It's a tough decision but shoehorning 3 in the side robs them of one attacker, and neuters the best of B. Silva and De Bruyne.
The good thing they have going for them is that their peak as seen against Chelsea and Liverpool will take them far in the CL. They (players and Pep) need to stop dicking around.
They're arguably the best team in the last year or two, and they're rightly favourites in all competitions. But it's true that something is lacking for them in this competition. And it's not some mysterious quality that supposedly only "big" clubs have.
They're simply lacking in shithousery and opportunism. Because these are the qualities that you need in cup competition, not some intangible values of "tradition" or"greatness", as some like to fool themselves. That's why teams like Atletico and Real Madrid thrive in this competition. They have toughness and street smarts in abundance, and the latter also have top individual quality, which enables them to overcome anyone in a knockout tie.
Teams that try to play beautiful and expansive football by the textbook will get punished in most cases. That's why Barca at their best were a level above everyone, yet often fragile in this competition. That's just how football is.
They're simply lacking in shithousery and opportunism. Because these are the qualities that you need in cup competition, not some intangible values of "tradition" or"greatness", as some like to fool themselves. That's why teams like Atletico and Real Madrid thrive in this competition. They have toughness and street smarts in abundance, and the latter also have top individual quality, which enables them to overcome anyone in a knockout tie.
Teams that try to play beautiful and expansive football by the textbook will get punished in most cases. That's why Barca at their best were a level above everyone, yet often fragile in this competition. That's just how football is.
It really doesn't matter. When it comes to it, City should fancy themselves against any side in the competition over two legs.
As cliche as it sounds, History plays a big part in achieving success in the Champions League.
How are those not intangible, compared to guff like "tradition"?
On your last point, that's us fecked then. Should have stuck with Mourinho. He knew how to "shithouse" with the best of them.
He just trying to challenge his players to perform. It's all mind games to get the best out of his team.
Nah. We're still not savvy enough to win the Champions League and if Liverpool go out earlier than expected they'll have a clear run at the league while we're focusing on the other competitions. Don't get me wrong, if we win the League Cup, FA Cup, have a good go at the Champions League and come 2nd in the title race I'd still be more than happy with that.
Stuff like "tradition" is a fairy tale that has next to zero relevance on the pitch. Some teams and players are more opportunistic or tough than others in their style of play. It's not quantifiable, but it's easy to see. And it arguably works better than more idealistic approaches in certain contexts.
Pathetic from guardiola. Turned over a German team with ten men having bought two of the bundesligas best players for over 100m in recent years. Plus gundogan. These are players schalke couldn't dream of getting in their own league. If he can't get them ready for latter stages by now what the hell are schalke even trying for.
Truly pointless club.
Truly pointless club.
Crazy season and as a Utd fan there is nothing worst than contributing to either of Liverpool or city winning things cause we beat the other one....
I dont think a club has had a better chance of winning the quadruple.
League - Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal all sub par, only Liverpool and Spurs (lol) to fight.
League cup - Oxford Utd, Fulham, Leicester City, Burton with a weak Chelsea in the final.
FA cup - Rotherham, Burnley, Newport and next is Swansea, be interesting to see who they get on the semi final before the final.
CL - Lyon, Hoffenheim and Shakhtar Donetsk, not exactly a group of death, then Schalke who are abysmal in the Bundesliga un the next round, and no doubt will be getting Porto/Roma next round.
Obviously they'd do well to do it, I'm not downplaying a quadruple! Just saying this is the time to do it, and perhaps the only time.
League - Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal all sub par, only Liverpool and Spurs (lol) to fight.
League cup - Oxford Utd, Fulham, Leicester City, Burton with a weak Chelsea in the final.
FA cup - Rotherham, Burnley, Newport and next is Swansea, be interesting to see who they get on the semi final before the final.
CL - Lyon, Hoffenheim and Shakhtar Donetsk, not exactly a group of death, then Schalke who are abysmal in the Bundesliga un the next round, and no doubt will be getting Porto/Roma next round.
Obviously they'd do well to do it, I'm not downplaying a quadruple! Just saying this is the time to do it, and perhaps the only time.
he doesn't need to say it but it's true nonetheless. what chance do you have if you're making such difficult work of Schalke? a better team wouldn't have them off the hook yesterday. I always found talk of being the 'best team in Europe' a joke.
No chance of 4 trophies.
I predict 2 IF united beat Pool on Sunday.
I predict 2 IF united beat Pool on Sunday.
Didn't Real Madrid win the whole thing after losing to Wolfsburg?
On your way to winning the CL it's almost guaranteed you're going to have a couple of matches where you're not at your best, you want to hope they're the ones that don't cost you. City had an off game but still came out with an away win so happy days. I don't think City would have played the same way if they were against a better team.
A lot of this quadruple talk is the media saying "oh they're going for it" and then bashing them when they most probably fail to win 4 trophies.
Not only that, in 2015 they were at the brink of going out, losing at home against Schalke.
Well losing to Schalke is a different thing entirely. It's winning narrowly against Schalke away specifically that you want to avoid. It's just a bad luck charm, like walking under a ladder or breaking a mirror.
City have been proven to crumble under the prrssure. They might go to the semi final/final but peps away record in the knockouts is quite bad like really poor it comes to mentality issue with how the team is approaching the games.
That statement is errant nonsense. He's a complete wacko.
Wow, I didn't realise their cup matches were this easy! I'll start worrying once they get past a tough contender in the CL.
As much as I'd want that to be true, the lack of pressing and mobility in our front six would really cost us against a team that moves and possess the ball like City does. If Suarez were dropped so our midfield didn't have to cover Messi's defensive duties on the right, then I'd give us much more of a chance but that seems unlikely.
I think Liverpool, PSG, and Atletico are the teams who would give them the toughest tie.
That’s honestly pathetic from Pep, I’d be fuming if I was a City fan and heard that. His back line alone cost about 200m, when will they be ready if not now?
They will never have a better chance to win it than they have at the moment. They are getting easy draws & the traditional super powers are weaker than ever.
Think it's more a case of making sure Mansour makes funds available for another splurge in the Summer. His remit at City is to deliver a CL. This is easier if you get the league wrapped up early rather than having a race that goes down to the last few weeks of the season. They are in a race with PSG to be the first oil club CL winners. It's slightly easier for PSG as they are in a 1 team, league so can concentrate on the CL. Pep will want a huge budget in the summer for 2 FB's a DMF & Striker.
Pep's ego is also huge & he revels in his god like status. His likely ideal career trajectory is to win City there first CL & then do the same at PSG.
To be honest, as much as it pains me to say it, I would take Liverpool winning the league over the plastics winning the quadruple. A quadruple immortalises these cnuts. And it's something that we haven't done. In 10 years time, nobody will remember that they had the resources of an entire country to do it, except that Pep did this and hacks at Sky will proclaim this team as the greatest english side of all time and they will have a legitimate argument for it. The adulation that Pep already receives is sickening, this will make it unbearable.
But at the same time I am typing this, the thought of Jordan fecking Henderson lifting the PL trophy leaves a sour taste in my mouth. And the thought of dippers ( especially that Shadesof something guy) rubbing it in this forum sickens me even more.
P.S I was browsing through some barcelona forum recently, and the love they have for Manchester city is nauseating. I read someone saying he was glad Sane is at city and not at United. Like wtf did we do to them.
But at the same time I am typing this, the thought of Jordan fecking Henderson lifting the PL trophy leaves a sour taste in my mouth. And the thought of dippers ( especially that Shadesof something guy) rubbing it in this forum sickens me even more.
P.S I was browsing through some barcelona forum recently, and the love they have for Manchester city is nauseating. I read someone saying he was glad Sane is at city and not at United. Like wtf did we do to them.
This quadruple talk is created by the media to attack City when we inevitably don't do it. It's literally impossible.