Are you for real? its not about an apology.....its about him not doing it.
Jeez, comprehension not your strong point?
Wayne Rooney withdraws from England squad, minor knee injury
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Are you for real? its not about an apology.....its about him not doing it.
Jeez, comprehension not your strong point?
why should he not have a night out?
That is easy , drop him for being unprofessional and not preparing in the right way . If anything he has made it easy for our new manager .
Does Jose not follow these rules?
U r right, absolutely agree. I am waiting for Jose to take action but it seems he is not going to do so. Either Jose is not the right man for the job or Wayne is not the person many see he is, I guess.
Well despite efforts to reincarnate him as Oliver Reed he probably is a lightweight.
Been playing two or three times a week plus training for the last 13 years. So where he fits in these monster drinking sessions I don't know.
I reckon in reality he's drank much less in his life than the average 30 year old.
Wait, what else is the press not reporting on Rooney and the rest of the England squad? Can't believe this happened last November as well. No wonder we suck at international tournaments, absolutely no discipline from the lot of them. I sincerely hope Rashford doesn't get drawn into this lifestyle.
Of course he should have a 'night out' if he can control himself. If he can't which seems to be the case then no. If you want to get shiters lock yourself in the room and do that if you must. Small sacrifice for a person who gets paid in excess of £250k a week.
The career of a top pro footballer is short, in any case. It's not as if it's a life-long commitment.
And took up yoga. Can't remember all the details or if I'm remembering correctly but, didn't he also stop driving his fancy sports car so as not to aggravate his hamstrings?
Because they had training the next morning? they had a game 2 days later? He wasn't on holiday.
He had 1 LEISURE day to relax and recover, not get pissed.
I edited my last post, which explains that he should not drink, and I'll add to that. He should at least refrain from drinking in public. He has to set an example as a leader, or the whole place reflects badly because of his actions. It's that simple. You'll find that in all walks of life.
Because he makes lots of money, which means having a good time is absolutely out of the question. It is also undeniable fact that every other top professional never drinks ever and that Rooney is a big bastard.
Or something like that at least.
People are also taking the "he had already been told he wasn't playing against Spain" as gospel.
Original reports cited him withdrawing from the training session with a minor issue. Which was followed by reports of him not playing. Which was then cleared up as "a knee injury".
Original reports cited him withdrawing from the training session with a minor issue. Which was followed by reports of him not playing. Which was then cleared up as "a knee injury".
I'm discussing the public apology part of this. If you just want to restrict the conversation to the rights or wrongs of him doing it in the first place go ahead. It's possible I think to discuss both parts though.
We've currently got two big threads discussing the same thing. In the spirit (no pun intended) of death to megathreads shouldn't we start a new thread about this piss-up?
Yep, think top professional footballers don't have time to drink. If you play 3 games a week you'll have hardly any time to recover. Also, it's not as if you have to be teetotal. Drink responsibly and then let your hair down for a couple of weeks in the summer.
Don't get me wrong, I love my beer and weekends but if someone offered me a fraction of what he gets in a week, to play football, I would quit smoking and drinking in an instant.
When you make it sound like that...
Just shows how much of brainless idiot he is. Behaves like a 18 years old uni student when he should be setting an example.
I was just reading the (spit) Sun's latest update, which alludes to a load of players going on a massive session last November, four days before playing France. Now I'm wondering if booze might be a big factor in England perennially underachieving in tournaments? Perhaps the biggest reason for England punching below their weight isn't the lack of a good manager, it's all the players treating a trip overseas like a lad's holiday in Magaluf?
Do you see that changing under Southgate ? Will he get rid of star players for misbehaving ? I doubt it myself .
If something is as deeply embedded in the culture as it seems then it's probably too big a job for one manager to change. Didn't the players basically sabotage Capello because they thought he was being too strict with them?
It's funny how's it's only making the papers now. I wonder what's the motive behind that?
I frequent another forum and some posters on there seem to think it's only a select few that like their 'nights out'.
They went crazy because he cut out ketchup!
Players have too much power , there`s no doubt about that . Nothing will be done though , just the same cycle of events with a nice guy manager that suits the FA .
It's funny, for a guy who seems to take so much pride in being a captain and a leader, he's really shit at it.
You may be right. Certainly Rooney could not be making it any easier for Mourinho drop him and the fact that The Sun, Times and Daily Mail have all left the boot in on this one, whereas once-upon-a-time similar stories were buried, speaks volumes about the changing nature of Wayne's world.
Press never reported it. Back then, he was still top dog for club and country.
Spineless cnuts.
The man himself says, he has nothing to prove.
That is the crux of the matter. He's coasting towards retirement.
That is the crux of the matter. He's coasting towards retirement.
Has this been done yet?
I saw my mate the other day
He said to me he saw the drunk Pele
So I asked who is he?
He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney
Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney.....
I saw my mate the other day
He said to me he saw the drunk Pele
So I asked who is he?
He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney
Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney.....
Martin Samuel's article surprised me the most. Firstly, he's usually right behind the England team and seems cosy with the FA in that he only ever turns on a manager when the writing is on the wall. Secondly, he's one of those "good old days" football journalists and a bit of a bloke so I can't imagine he is really worried by a footballer drinking. Thirdly he's always been quite protective of Rooney, I think he's very much a journalist who will embellish a player if he thinks it will be beneficial to him. It seems like he's happy to burn his bridges. Whether that's because he's been tipped that he's on his way out or because he's a rat escaping a sinking ship is anyone's guess.
England players to be banned from nights out while on international duty
England players have been banned by the Football Association from having nights off while on international duty.
The FA is looking into claims several players were out until late on Saturday night after Friday's 3-0 win over Scotland - less than three days before they drew 2-2 with Spain in a friendly.
Wayne Rooney apologised after pictures showed him at a wedding that night.
Meanwhile, the Sun claims up to 10 other players were at a nightclub drinking until 04:30 GMT on Sunday.
A statement issued on behalf of England captain Rooney, who had attended a wedding at the team's hotel, said: "Naturally Wayne is sorry that pictures taken with fans have been published.
"Although it was a day off for the whole squad and staff, he fully recognises that the images are inappropriate for someone in his position."
The FA, whose decision is not prompted purely by Rooney's night out, is not expecting to discipline anyone.
Chief executive Martin Glenn said: "Don't make a drama out of it. We are having a proper investigation into what went on. It's disappointing. It's appropriate that he apologised. It doesn't set a great tone for the England captain but I don't want to over-dramatise it either.
"Were there FA staff involved? We're establishing the facts. We're talking to people who were there to find out if anybody from the backroom staff was involved. Why on earth would you be doing that given there is a team agreement around alcohol consumption during camp? There would be questions asked for sure.
"There's been a journey. A strict disciplinarian like Fabio Capello where the players were closeted away, it was seen not to be a good success. Roy Hodgson brought a more liberal approach. Roy was right, let's treat people like adults.
"The best agreements are when players come up with their own rules and then work with them. I think we're probably in the right ball park. We just need to have a degree of trust and make sure when we agree something as a group, we stick to it."
Glenn added he had no intention of speaking to Rooney's Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho, who was said to be unhappy with the situation.
England's players, who will still have free time but not whole nights off, all reported back at 11:00 GMT on Sunday as they were instructed to, and attended training in the afternoon.
Legends drank like devils - Klopp*
When asked about the Rooney story, Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp said he did not see a problem.
"I feel sorry for the players," he said. "We live on the sunny side of life, but in the end maybe it is a surprise there is a human being behind the kid.
"This generation is the most professional generation of footballers we have ever had - not only in England. All the legends you admire, they drank like devils and smoked like crazy and were still good players. Nobody does that any more.
"I've no idea where Wayne was but I'm pretty sure it was not that serious.”
'He's suffered the consequences of the social media world’
Scotland and West Brom captain Darren Fletcher defended his former Manchester United team-mate in an interview with BBC Radio 5 live.
"The whole situation is very unfortunate," said the midfielder, 32. "I hear a lot about how professional footballers are detached from the public and they don't mingle any more. This circumstance shows why professionals are scared to do it. He's suffered the consequences of the social media world we live in. Players will be even more guarded now.
"People plaster you all over social media when you're kind enough to take pictures with fans.
"He holds his hands up. It's been blown out of proportion. That's not me defending my friend, Wayne Rooney, that's me defending most footballers who like to let their hair down. He's made a mistake but a genuine one in terms of trying to give a bit of time to fans when he was a bit worse for wear.
"He's the most down to earth guy you'll ever meet. If he gets the chance to socialise with normal people and his guard is down, he's probably let the guard down too far. He's almost been too approachable and down to earth."
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38014321?
*I know he’s been asked about this but how does it feel that Klopp is commenting on everything these days?
England players have been banned by the Football Association from having nights off while on international duty.
The FA is looking into claims several players were out until late on Saturday night after Friday's 3-0 win over Scotland - less than three days before they drew 2-2 with Spain in a friendly.
Wayne Rooney apologised after pictures showed him at a wedding that night.
Meanwhile, the Sun claims up to 10 other players were at a nightclub drinking until 04:30 GMT on Sunday.
A statement issued on behalf of England captain Rooney, who had attended a wedding at the team's hotel, said: "Naturally Wayne is sorry that pictures taken with fans have been published.
"Although it was a day off for the whole squad and staff, he fully recognises that the images are inappropriate for someone in his position."
The FA, whose decision is not prompted purely by Rooney's night out, is not expecting to discipline anyone.
Chief executive Martin Glenn said: "Don't make a drama out of it. We are having a proper investigation into what went on. It's disappointing. It's appropriate that he apologised. It doesn't set a great tone for the England captain but I don't want to over-dramatise it either.
"Were there FA staff involved? We're establishing the facts. We're talking to people who were there to find out if anybody from the backroom staff was involved. Why on earth would you be doing that given there is a team agreement around alcohol consumption during camp? There would be questions asked for sure.
"There's been a journey. A strict disciplinarian like Fabio Capello where the players were closeted away, it was seen not to be a good success. Roy Hodgson brought a more liberal approach. Roy was right, let's treat people like adults.
"The best agreements are when players come up with their own rules and then work with them. I think we're probably in the right ball park. We just need to have a degree of trust and make sure when we agree something as a group, we stick to it."
Glenn added he had no intention of speaking to Rooney's Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho, who was said to be unhappy with the situation.
England's players, who will still have free time but not whole nights off, all reported back at 11:00 GMT on Sunday as they were instructed to, and attended training in the afternoon.
Legends drank like devils - Klopp*
When asked about the Rooney story, Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp said he did not see a problem.
"I feel sorry for the players," he said. "We live on the sunny side of life, but in the end maybe it is a surprise there is a human being behind the kid.
"This generation is the most professional generation of footballers we have ever had - not only in England. All the legends you admire, they drank like devils and smoked like crazy and were still good players. Nobody does that any more.
"I've no idea where Wayne was but I'm pretty sure it was not that serious.”
'He's suffered the consequences of the social media world’
Scotland and West Brom captain Darren Fletcher defended his former Manchester United team-mate in an interview with BBC Radio 5 live.
"The whole situation is very unfortunate," said the midfielder, 32. "I hear a lot about how professional footballers are detached from the public and they don't mingle any more. This circumstance shows why professionals are scared to do it. He's suffered the consequences of the social media world we live in. Players will be even more guarded now.
"People plaster you all over social media when you're kind enough to take pictures with fans.
"He holds his hands up. It's been blown out of proportion. That's not me defending my friend, Wayne Rooney, that's me defending most footballers who like to let their hair down. He's made a mistake but a genuine one in terms of trying to give a bit of time to fans when he was a bit worse for wear.
"He's the most down to earth guy you'll ever meet. If he gets the chance to socialise with normal people and his guard is down, he's probably let the guard down too far. He's almost been too approachable and down to earth."
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38014321?
*I know he’s been asked about this but how does it feel that Klopp is commenting on everything these days?
Just shows you that players might think they have got away with something when in reality the press are just biding their time.
Including how to lose all your money on gambling as well.
Fletcher always comes across well in interviews.
That is all!
He does. Although Rooney did not suffer the consequences of the social media world, but his own stupid behaviour.
Glenn always has bit too much to say. Reminds me of a New Labour spin merchant, or Christian Purslow.
Rooney, Sterling and Jagielka were the players involved.
Get rid, I'd say. No big loss and it'd make the point to the rest of the squad.
Klopp really came out defending Rooney for this. He doesn't have to but he did it anyway. It must be nice to have a manager like that who really stands by you in media. No wonder his players give absolutely everything for him.