Not surprising really given that it's RVP, Rooney, Mata in front of him who've been leagues top 5 attacking players for good 2-3 years and Carrick was top midfielder last year. Teams don't have to consist of top-notch skill players only, there's always place for a player or two who'll have less ability yet add something to the team that those skilled players don't really add. Matter of gelling up. On paper, ability wise, our front four should do wonders up front and we know that it isn't the reality.
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Not surprising really given that it's RVP, Rooney, Mata in front of him who've been leagues top 5 attacking players for good 2-3 years and Carrick was top midfielder last year. Teams don't have to consist of top-notch skill players only, there's always place for a player or two who'll have less ability yet add something to the team that those skilled players don't really add. Matter of gelling up. On paper, ability wise, our front four should do wonders up front and we know that it isn't the reality.
Wrt this incident, even if its not deliberate, its still due to the player making a mistake rather than being unintentional. So there should have been a free kick.
I just went to the toilet in the pub I'm in, there was this guy diligently washing his hands, really making sure they were properly washed. Despite there being 2 hand dryers of the high speed quick dry variety, he wiped his hands on the back of his trousers.
At least he didn't take a dump and wipe his arse on his underpants.
You do like keeping up with Rooney's stats don't you ?
With handball, it kinda has to be.
Is Rooney going to become the new whipping boy?
You keep saying he gave it away a lot, even though it's been pointed out to you that he didn't. Only Carrick gave the ball away less, unsurprisingly as Fellaini looked to get it forward more.
So I'm not sure what your on about.
That's why he should be playing on the right wing and Mata in the middle. Moyes is too scared though.
As Sphaero said, handball has to be deliberate in order to get counted, other types of fouls doesn't.
Correct call by the ref IMO. Keeper's hand was in natural position and he wasn't looking there when he touched the ball. He can't remove a part of his body. Bad for us cause RVP would have scored, but rules are rules and this wasn't a foul neither a red card.
It's hardly irrelevant.
New? He's been getting shit for years.
Irrespective of accountancy decisions, he deserves to be "rested".
Why has jones been so bad? Didn't think he's been bad at all apart from the early moment. Scored as well.
The final balls been missing yeah but we've got into promising positions. Its not been dull like some of our games.
If he continues to play like he does then he'll definitely be the one.
Whether he should be punished or not doesn't change how the rules work though.
A more courageous decision would be to bench either RVP or Rooney.
Yeah.It did look more like the ball to hand.
Rooney isnt playing as a striker. RVP has played as a striker and been shit for a good amount of games now. Id like to see an attempt to make our top paid player work out rather than drop him. RVP is not a long term player for United, Rooney is. They've both been shite but I want to Rooney up top again, and I think hes the kind of striker who could create a very good partnership with an actual good #10 like Kagawa or Mata.
It has always managed to be when I discuss football.
It's not what Rooney does that is particularly poor, it's what he could be doing, or what somebody else could be doing if we played with a specialist #10. Instead, we're still two strikers and 4 midfielders and as Ash correctly points out, his first instinct is to receive it on the turn and either play it back or hit it out wide. He's not making any errors, but the lack of imagination and combination play is a product of the way he plays.
Yea criticising Fellaini this game is retardation. Especially when they try to justify it with lies like "hes giving the ball away too much".
From FIFA rules.
- Denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick.
What about when the arms are stretched and the ball hit the hand ? I have no idea what's the first criterion a ref takes into account when judging these moments.
The free role Moyes has given Rooney just isn't working, and the side looks really disjointed.
Fellaini just crossed it into the box with no United players there 
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The key words there being "by an offense punishable by free kick or a penalty kick"
Accidentally handling the ball isn't punishable by either of those.
Or worse when people who think he hasn't been bad are labeled as Moyes fanbois ...
Not really. FIFA rules show that if any offence is punishable by a free kick or penalty then it can be a red card.
Spot on.
It's not at all the case that Fellaini is poor. He's actually decent, but we have to demand more than decent.
The clumsy fouls do grate me, however. There's a time and place for hacking and Fellaini hasn't gotten that sorted out yet.
Still, I fancy him as a target man for crosses although I have to admit he hasn't been as aggressive in finding the end of a cross in a red shirt as he was in a blue shirt.
agree with this. don't understand people wanting kagawa on for rooney...he's not half the player Rooney is. he's as good as gone anyway.Wouldn't say Rooney has played poorly. Quiet, definitely. But when on the ball, he hasn't really done much wrong. He's opened up the play well, but apart from that he has been a bit invisible.
Mata
I've seen them both given and waved away in that situation. I don't know how the referee is supposed to divine a player's intent in a split second either.
plenty of decisions are given for handball that you could never say are deliberate.
Worst I ever saw was I think Bradford v us, when someone absolutely smashed the ball into onrushing Scholes from about 3yards away
And scored in five of our last 5 league games. Van Persie is a better striker than Rooney. Dropping him would be silly.
Why is RVP taking all the free kicks?
We still love crossing it and crossing it to our tall, powerful strikers who love to head it.
OK, let me rephrase - he's been shocking for our supposed best player.
Just because referees make mistakes plenty of times doesn't mean that they have to make mistakes always.
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