Wow, are they actually going to go through with banning 200 fans for life?
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If you've got 2 kids and factor in travel and food, etc you're not getting much change out of £200. If both parents go especially so. Hence the use of total expenditure in my post.
And if you have 4 kids and travel further the cost is greater....and if you have zero kids and walk to the game it's less.
Using £200 is therefore just one of many variations so not really useful.
I think so. They're so heavily invested in making this move work that it's the easiest option. The stadium clearly wasn't constructed with explosive football derbies in mind, it's easier and cheaper to ban troublemakers than deal with the stadiums problems. Plus if they act strong now it might serve as a deterrent for the future
Yeah, if you have 0 kids it's probably not really relevant to a conversation about the cost of taking a family to a game. I chose 2 because that's pretty close to an average family and assumed travel as most people don't live above Lou Macari's chippy. Also, £31 is the cheapest ticket available. I think the point is reasonably pedantry proof.
feck not good, you need to ditch the freeloaders mate... jokes. In that case yea its very expensive. probably out of reach for most young familys.
All I wanted was a dog.
Moronic fans, feel sorry for the genuine ones who have to put up with the muppets that want to fight. They probably couldnt name the West Ham starting 11...
there seems to be a lot of blinkered, narrow minded views on this thread from people who have never been to that stadium or I doubt actually come across West Ham home support and/or Chelsea away support and almost certainly were not there the other night.
The problems just about all lie with the stadium owners along with the football club and the way matches it is organised/policed.
There was a great opportunity for West Ham to sell the home tickets to all other areas of the ground first before selling in the same end as the Chelsea allocation . Of course its an inconvenience to season ticket holders in that area but it happens at other grounds where you have to move from your normal seat because of increased allocations and a need for a bigger security gap between fans.
Did this happen? NO
They just sold as per normal hoping a few seats between them with stewards would be enough whilst police waited outside.
There will always be minorities who will cause mayhem and disorder.....there is at every major club in the country plus quite a few of the others. Had it been Man Utd, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle etc etc the outcome would have still been the same and had it been a neutral venue with said clubs above playing each other there still would have been some sort of disorder under the same conditions of security and organisation.
As for the poster saying we should all be sat down anyway....get real. It aint gonna happen and fans have always stood up especially behind the goals as it helps with the atmosphere as well
The problems just about all lie with the stadium owners along with the football club and the way matches it is organised/policed.
There was a great opportunity for West Ham to sell the home tickets to all other areas of the ground first before selling in the same end as the Chelsea allocation . Of course its an inconvenience to season ticket holders in that area but it happens at other grounds where you have to move from your normal seat because of increased allocations and a need for a bigger security gap between fans.
Did this happen? NO
They just sold as per normal hoping a few seats between them with stewards would be enough whilst police waited outside.
There will always be minorities who will cause mayhem and disorder.....there is at every major club in the country plus quite a few of the others. Had it been Man Utd, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle etc etc the outcome would have still been the same and had it been a neutral venue with said clubs above playing each other there still would have been some sort of disorder under the same conditions of security and organisation.
As for the poster saying we should all be sat down anyway....get real. It aint gonna happen and fans have always stood up especially behind the goals as it helps with the atmosphere as well
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I agree that it could have happened at any club but the problems don't just about all lie with the stadium owners, the football club and the way matches are organised and policed. Some of the problems, yes - but the biggest part of the problem is idiot fans. Do they not have minds of their own? They can't behave like that and then blame others for not stopping their stupidity.
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disagree.... the reason why since the late 80's the UK has had a good reputation amongst other countries over hooliganism is because of matchday organisation and policing. The trouble makers have always been lurking around but are virtually policed out of the equation. As soon as organisation and policing is relaxed they take opportunity....so in West Hams case because they have skimped on a major part of a match day experience for the supporter they now have problems.
So therefore, they and the stadium owners are mostly to blame for allowing the situation to develop and remember it started from their 1st home game ( so warnings signs were there back in August.... here we areat the end of October) and has got worse. Not only West Ham support but the likes of Watford, Boro etc etc have been involved
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Ah.
The perfect recipe for footballing disasters.
Inadequate turnstiles and shit segregation.
Has anything been learned ?
And hopefully a blowjob off the waitress to for that price.
So the kids are involved in the £200 price. Ok .. maybe no blowjob then.
Mods...?
That is horrifying.
Uh ?
It's not the stadium owners - it's West Ham (pretty sure they just rent it from the council) who refuse to pay for any adequate policing. Also it is the fans fault mainly. One bellend doesn't get absolved because he's in a group of bellends. They are all primarily responsible.
Remember all the violence at the Olympics? No, because the stadium wasn't riddled with cnuts.
The Olympics isnt tribalism like football. You dont get groups of supporter singing Usain Bolt or Mo Farrahs name or chanting at supporters of Gatlin that their man is shoite. So poor analogy.
The stadium owners and West Ham have a duty of care to ensure the safety of supporters. If they decide through lack of organisation, funding, policing etc etc not too bother or have it at the required standard then they are letting 99% of match going supporters down.
Any trouble at the stadium and outside afterwards during the week could have been limited or possibly avoided with funding and proper planning.
That goes for every match there.
Just about every other ground manages to do it bar isolated incidents and its the same groups of supporters so why cant London stadium, the authorites and West Ham get their act together
No paedophile or rape jokes before anyone thinks of posting one. Should go without saying really but have to post it as I know what some are like.
The comparison to the Olympics is perfectly reasonable. West Ham might very well be at fault for poor preparation but the first and chief blame must be placed on the adults who can't control themselves. Excuses like 'tribalism' are just a way of trying to cast their stupidity in a somehow admirable light. No wonder some people sill look down on football fans when the response to trouble is 'but you didn't try to stop us hard enough'. It's infantile.
the olympic comparison is not reasonable ar all...completely different sport and culture.
What you do not seem to understand is that virtually every football stadium needs to be fit for prpose which includes segregation , security and heath n safety. The London stadium is not fit for purpose at the moment.
Of course there are fans who will cause problems...there has been since the 1960's and football clubs, football associations etc etc have learnt to police it. I have never said it is not the fault of the fans but you need to get real . There are hardcore and wannabe elements attached to most clubs and that will never go away no matter what you think in your perfect football world of all sitting together non segregated, politely clapping and whispering to each other.
The way it has worked for the last 20 or so years is to police it from the start which in turn cuts out most problems.
Stadiums and football clubs know this....so the fault lies squarely on the shoulders of London stadium and West Ham.
Have you been to a highly charged football match and been close to the opposition support....it is raw tribalism and that is not an excuse...its fact
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I hope wWest ham get relegated. Their fans this year have painted a cavemanic portrait of the club.
Poor fecking WHU fans, unlucky lads it's their own fans fighting between themselves in the stadias, fighting with Chelski fans throwing their own plastic seats at them and, of course, throwing shit at bus with our players just before the last match at Boleyn Ground that fecking shithole.
Free season tickets for life ?
I've PMd the lad who quoted it first.
I think my comments have been taken out of context.
Someone said it costs him 200 quid to go the match so I jokingly replied I'd expect a blowjob included in that price. I then read through the thread and he said his 200 cost was meant if you take the kids and the full day out costs etc.
I then made my comment meaning I would not get a blowjob if my children where present.
No peadophile connotations whatsoever once Ive explained it .
What the feck did you think I meant ?
No doubt the wonderful owners of West Ham will find a way for the tax payer to to cover some more security cost! I really don't like the owners the slimy so and so's.
I do wonder why the government let them have the stadium at such a reduced cost then you see that the CEO was/is friends with the prime minister at the time!
And if that whole radio thing is true then surely they should get a fine/points deduction from the PL?
I do wonder why the government let them have the stadium at such a reduced cost then you see that the CEO was/is friends with the prime minister at the time!
And if that whole radio thing is true then surely they should get a fine/points deduction from the PL?
It was just a bit of fun, that message gets posted all the time, its a Caf meme.
Oh you pesky Mancs.
Never explain!
How someone hasn't lost his or her job over this farce is a mystery
Surely the conclusion of any investigation will simply be 'Tory mayor gives Tory Baroness the deal of the century via a Tory Lord'.
So the retractable seats aren't actually retractable and have to be moved manually.
http://news.sky.com/story/sadiq-khan-orders-inquiry-over-16351m-olympic-stadium-increase-10641071
http://news.sky.com/story/sadiq-khan-orders-inquiry-over-16351m-olympic-stadium-increase-10641071
I genuinely believe this stadium move will be West Ham's downfall. The atmosphere there is non-existent and they have lost that lift they got from Upton Park. The TV revenue in this league is so high that the added ticket sales aren't as important as they have been in the past.
They had money for a striker all summer, tried for Carlos Bacca but couldn't attract anyone of note and ended up with Zaza, who has flopped.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if the go down next season.
Their home games to date:
Bournemouth, 1-0 win
Watford, 2-4 loss
Southampton, 0-3 loss
Boro, 1-1 draw
Sunderland, 1-0 win
Stoke, 1-1 draw
Arsenal, 1-5 loss
Burnley, 1-0 win on a penalty
Hull, 1-0 win on a penalty
Man Utd, 0-2 loss
They haven't won a single point that you feel is unexpected. Against Hull they were very lucky as Hull had so many chances.
I hope they go down really, it was like watching a game in Razgrad, not the Premier League.
They had money for a striker all summer, tried for Carlos Bacca but couldn't attract anyone of note and ended up with Zaza, who has flopped.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if the go down next season.
Their home games to date:
Bournemouth, 1-0 win
Watford, 2-4 loss
Southampton, 0-3 loss
Boro, 1-1 draw
Sunderland, 1-0 win
Stoke, 1-1 draw
Arsenal, 1-5 loss
Burnley, 1-0 win on a penalty
Hull, 1-0 win on a penalty
Man Utd, 0-2 loss
They haven't won a single point that you feel is unexpected. Against Hull they were very lucky as Hull had so many chances.
I hope they go down really, it was like watching a game in Razgrad, not the Premier League.
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Were there West Ham fans fighting each other in the stands at the United match the other day?
Yeah, but it was relatively isolated pockets from where I was
they swim in the same gene pool, would laugh my ass off if they went down. shit owners, shit fans, shit teams, shit ground. Shit over the top send off for their old shit stadium where their most glorious day was stopping united winning a league, which they renamed suddenly before leaving it because it was so shitJesus, fighting amongst themselves......why
Just think, the one team they would have wanted to be the last one,before the fixtures were announced would have been Utd.
As long as I can remember Utd is the one team they have an irrational hate for. They are not taken seriously by the top London clubs as it's usually regarded as 6 points with a few exceptions. So they try extra hard and get themselves up for it. That's why I have no sympathy for that result on Monday. I have been there when they've kicked us off the pitch, laughing as they've done it. It was sweet to see them leaving their council house in droves
Horrible stadium, the gap between the pitch and the stand takes away from the atmosphere.