Westminster Politics

Imagine my surprise.

The Government and arms of its governing power such as the Police are comfortable lying to our face repeatedly - the media will plaster those lies on tabloids & media, to skew & curate the national opinion in its favour. Then they'll turn around and issue an apology for lying & twisting the truth in small print on page 34 bottom right two weeks after the fact, while a fresh set of lies current cover the front page.
It's a shambles and we're doomed to suffer in its cyclicality because the British public quite simply don't care enough - as a whole we will just gasp in shock while we sleepwalk into authoritarian power.
Absolutely. The media are supposed to hold the government to account.

Who holds the media to account?
 
Absolutely. The media are supposed to hold the government to account.

Who holds the media to account?

The people, but they don't care.

Apparently Priti Patel has spent over £100k of public money on lashes & eyebrows in the last 12 months, and nobody will care enough to hold them to account for shite like this.

edit - this whole thread is insane, her expenses look more like money laundering than legitimate spending & if it is legitimate then what the actual feck?! and if it's money laundering then seriously, why has nobody set something on fire yet?!

 
The people, but they don't care.

Apparently Priti Patel has spent over £100k of public money on lashes & eyebrows in the last 12 months, and nobody will care enough to hold them to account for shite like this.

edit - this whole thread is insane, her expenses look more like money laundering than legitimate spending & if it is legitimate then what the actual feck?! and if it's money laundering then seriously, why has nobody set something on fire yet?!


I saw this :lol: has to be money laundering. I’m sure the Kardashians collectively don’t even spend that much on eyebrow threading in a year.
 
I saw this :lol: has to be money laundering. I’m sure the Kardashians collectively don’t even spend that much on eyebrow threading in a year.

This sort of spending of the public purse should be a sackable offence, but no doubt she'll issue some statement that says it's not as it seems and she followed the rules.
Then she'll come up with a new way of taking away the human rights of refugees and all will be forgotten, because this country hates the 'other' more than the known enemy.
 
This sort of spending of the public purse should be a sackable offence, but no doubt she'll issue some statement that says it's not as it seems and she followed the rules.
Then she'll come up with a new way of taking away the human rights of refugees and all will be forgotten, because this country hates the 'other' more than the known enemy.
Yep. She’ll come out of this smelling of roses.
 
The people, but they don't care.

Apparently Priti Patel has spent over £100k of public money on lashes & eyebrows in the last 12 months, and nobody will care enough to hold them to account for shite like this.

edit - this whole thread is insane, her expenses look more like money laundering than legitimate spending & if it is legitimate then what the actual feck?! and if it's money laundering then seriously, why has nobody set something on fire yet?!


If this was to be investigated, what would the next step(s) be? What’s the process over there inside government?

Will it even be investigated? This would be red meat for any media outlet here.
 
She's quite safe because everyone in the current upper tiers of government is complicit. She's probably shagging Boris.
 
If this was to be investigated, what would the next step(s) be? What’s the process over there inside government?

Will it even be investigated? This would be red meat for any media outlet here.

They would basically be investigating themselves, or at least their buddies would investigate them.

Where is that information coming from?

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/03/24/home-office-fails-to-explain-strange-expenses/

Slightly disingenuous to say all the spending is done by Priti herself for her personal benefit, but it is her department spending and she has oversight and ultimate approval.
 
The people, but they don't care.

Apparently Priti Patel has spent over £100k of public money on lashes & eyebrows in the last 12 months, and nobody will care enough to hold them to account for shite like this.

edit - this whole thread is insane, her expenses look more like money laundering than legitimate spending & if it is legitimate then what the actual feck?! and if it's money laundering then seriously, why has nobody set something on fire yet?!


How on earth do you spend £5k in primark?
 
What media coverage :lol:
The media were more appalled that a Labour MP bought some airpods.
See? This is why I ask! It makes me feel better about the state in which I live eviscerating basic voting rights immediately after an election they lost.
 
How on earth do you spend £5k in primark?

And they don't even have a website, you have to bought enough items to fit a lorry ffs.

See? This is why I ask! It makes me feel better about the state in which I live eviscerating basic voting rights immediately after an election they lost.

I mean I come from a country where the Government sells marked up million $ contracts to their friends for things like utilities, infrastructure & transport - and it's still not as corrupt at this government.
 
The people, but they don't care.

Apparently Priti Patel has spent over £100k of public money on lashes & eyebrows in the last 12 months, and nobody will care enough to hold them to account for shite like this.

edit - this whole thread is insane, her expenses look more like money laundering than legitimate spending & if it is legitimate then what the actual feck?! and if it's money laundering then seriously, why has nobody set something on fire yet?!


 
Lot of sympathy for Patel. Realised very soon after seeing a diet consultant that she had no chance. Threw her efforts at her eyebrows instead.

Blows me away that neatly every shot of Patel in the media is of her from the shoulders up. Most shots of the opposition are extremely unflattering. It’s a very subtle management of her image by an entire industry. I’m not even vaguely suggesting she be body shamed, but there’s such a stark difference.
 
She’s not that unattractive to an outsider like me. There’s a quality there.

Until I read or hear something she writes or says.
 
I'd have to disagree with you profoundly given the nature of the bill.

There's a better chance of getting support from other less vocal strata of society through peaceful protest rather than violent. Hopefully the cause will swell and we'll see mass protests. People get turned off by rioters. I'd say the tories are praying that people kick off and give them the publicity they need to demand passage of the bill.
 
There's a better chance of getting support from other less vocal strata of society through peaceful protest rather than violent. Hopefully the cause will swell and we'll see mass protests. People get turned off by rioters. I'd say the tories are praying that people kick off and give them the publicity they need to demand passage of the bill.

Peaceful protests do not make the news, do not get into anyone’s consciousness and do not make anyone listen.
 
There's a better chance of getting support from other less vocal strata of society through peaceful protest rather than violent. Hopefully the cause will swell and we'll see mass protests. People get turned off by rioters. I'd say the tories are praying that people kick off and give them the publicity they need to demand passage of the bill.

‘People’ get turned off... how many? It’s just numbers. You’re probably 100% correct, more people that voted the Tories into an 80 seat majority will be turned off.

Buuuuut. Most of me just thinks; burnt it all down when all other options are exhausted.
 
I replied to your other post and conceded you were right.

But I still think shit needs to burn to change things. Marching and kneeling hasn’t worked.

I get the sentiment but I think you might want to get used to the idea that you've lost. Adam Curtis always ends his docs with the daft sentiment that we can change everything back to better. It sounds nice but it really isn't going to happen.
 
I get the sentiment but I think you might want to get used to the idea that you've lost. Adam Curtis always ends his docs with the daft sentiment that we can change everything back to better. It sounds nice but it really isn't going to happen.

Oh dude. I’m pushing 40, working for a tenuously ESG-led Financial Services company. I’m a Champagne socialist if ever there was one. I concede my morals far too often.

I know it’s gone. But I still support the people I wish I was.
 
Oh dude. I’m pushing 40, working for a tenuously ESG-led Financial Services company. I’m a Champagne socialist if ever there was one. I concede my morals far too often.

I know it’s gone. But I still support the people I wish I was.


I mean, look around you at the young people. They just don't inspire me that much. Most of the loudest voices in this thread probably wouldn't dream of going to a protest and put their job or whatever in jeopardy. It's why Labour is flailing...people get angry about stuff but most aren't being exploited by capitalism any more, they enjoy the gifts that it showers upon them. iPhones, HDTVs, Netflix, lattes and the like.

I think in 50 years when dystopia has really taken hold then you might get an uprising, but it isn't going to happen over the stuff I read in the CE Forum.
 
I mean, look around you at the young people. They just don't inspire me that much. Most of the loudest voices in this thread probably wouldn't dream of going to a protest and put their job or whatever in jeopardy. It's why Labour is flailing...people get angry about stuff but most aren't being exploited by capitalism any more, they enjoy the gifts that it showers upon them. iPhones, HDTVs, Netflix, lattes and the like.

I think in 50 years when dystopia has really taken hold then you might get an uprising, but it isn't going to happen over the stuff I read in the CE Forum.

The 16-30 year old set definitely flail, dramatise and amplify the inconsequential rather than mobilise to change the important things.

It’s upsetting.