How the feck does anyone watch Fox
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Thankfully it isn't available here in the UK.
Absolutely shocking.
That is rocket fuel on the flames and justifies the need for the motion in the first place. Starmer just hit the jackpot.
The government is in disarray but her majesties opposition can't call and get a motion of no confidence in the govt because the Tories won't let them.
Do the Tory party realize what it is doing?
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Interested in which of the current conservative government/party you would turn up to hear, or get the juices flowing. As I'm struggling to think of any that are credible and smart at the moment.
Enjoy a taste of what we have to deal with on overdrive here. It could be much worse for you guys, trust me, be glad your situation isn't nearly as fecked.
Seriously what's the point of Labour.
Plus the very good shadow chancellor to be added to that group.
I do agree with you about Yvette Cooper.
She is one of the few who I do rate.
She has a very sharp brain, added to the ability to keep cool under pressure.
Significantly more of a match for Priti Patel in the Home Office.
Heard a bit of LBC this morning and Zahawi said he would absolutely make sure there is a position in his cabinet for Johnson 
Ben Wallace... but he's not running!!!
As above!!! The only one Labour would have to worry about... but he's not running so Sir Keir can breathe a sigh of relief
Not sure about shadow chancellor, but if Starmer has to go early he needs a good outstanding two alongside him, Y Cooper definitely, but then who?
Just now, prior to PMQ’s …Elliot Chappell (editor Labour List) live on BBC ”Jeremy Cnut, Hunt”
If Sunak gets in I will 100% be voting yes for Scottish Independance.
He must not see enough support from the loons in the party to get over the line.Ben Wallace... but he's not running!!!
As above!!! The only one Labour would have to worry about... but he's not running so Sir Keir can breathe a sigh of relief
What makes you like him? I see him as somewhat of a policy mystery box, I know very little of what he stands for apart from money for the military and supporting Ukraine.
The government has tabled a vote of no confidence in itself..
What a bizarre turn of events. They will back themselves and then win the vote of no confidence despite saying they had no confidence ? Or do they actually want an election? Or is this just Boris making a ridiculous final play?
They are trying to prevent Labour using wording relating to Johnson in the motion and keeping it as a VONC on the Government only so they can vote in favour of the Government. They are trying to avoid having to vote in favour of Johnson.
Labour specified Johnson. Tories are just saying whether they have confidence in the government, which of course they will, without naming Johnson. It's all a game but Labour are too naïve. Just let Johnson leave, then go for the kill.
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Yep, makes sense. Just seems weird to table a vote implying you don't have confidence in your own government, and then vote to say you do.
I was surprised they could but as they control Parliamentary timetable they can which is stupid really. They will get their vote on the confidence for the Government not Boris so they will get their wish.
Shame this guy isn't this strict with the Government lies in the Commons:
Every digest and book on parliamentary practice, behaviour and convention says they cannot refuse a VONC. They can choose the date. But with an uncodified constitution, the only mechanism for getting an early election (apart from having the Government call one) is a VONC, so they are as sacrosanct a matter as you can get, regardless of whether they will be won or not.
But the flipside to an uncodified constitution is that there is no law being broken by refusing a VONC to be held, and no legal repercussions. The Government's own MPs could put pressure on them to hold the vote, but how many of them will be wanting to do anything that takes them out of a job?
Its not naïve. Not in a normal country.
Tabling a vote of no confidence in yourself and then voting that you’re confident in yourself is Fcuking hatstand.
It can easily be packaged as corruption. Which it absolutely is. They’re in disarray. They’re not ‘beating’ Labour here. The Johnson tail is wagging the Tory dog. They’re fcuked.
My anger towards this Government is reaching astronomical levels.
At least the next PM has their priorities right...
At least the next PM has their priorities right...
Thanks. I guess besides breaking no law, the press won't call them out for it either and somehow this government will back Johnson's move, despite just ditching him, but still come out untarnished.
Presumably the PM candidates will conveniently be in meetings 'booked in ages ago' to avoid having to vote.
Depressing stuff.
Not in a normal country no. But the Uk left normal country status some years ago.
The Tories are in deep trouble and their ringleader should soon be gone. Without Johnson they are there for the taking. Don't mess up.
At least 'wokeism' isn't top four...yet. Rwanda policy clearly doing its job though.
What’s the actual point of Prime Minister Questions when the Prime Minister never answers them.
I’ve been watching PMQs for around the last 6 months now and it’s the same rhetoric every time.
Boris gets asked a question and he answers “Did you know this party (implying labour) voted against <insert unrelated policy>. <insert random unrelated shit to another policy>“
And the other frustrating thing is the same shite like “we’ve got more nurses than ever”, well no fecking shit Sherlock considering the population is the highest ever. What about the nurse to population ratio?
Or when they talk about funding NHS with the most ever, which again should be expected given inflation. Or about their energy pay outs as “the most in europe” which is more misleading bullshit considering other European countries like France applied strict energy caps meaning their residents are saving a lot more than Boris poxy payouts.
Then the same bollocks about new hospitals every week which is a lie and always has been. It’s like me painting my living room and saying I built a new house.
I remember a few months ago Boris then comes out saying Keir Starmer was to blame for Jimmy Saville not being prosecuted which was made up. And that was just allowed to fly? Yet when other politicians say about Boris lying in the house or misleading the public they instantly have to retract and rephrase their statements on the spot?
I honestly don’t get the point of PMQs anymore. Seems the Prime Minister can pick and choose what he answers and how he answers and can lie as frequently as he likes and never gets called out for it. But anyone else is held to account over the smallest of things.
And then even this vote of no confidence today getting blocked because of the timetable? Like you fecking serious? So the next time the opposition has no confidence in the prime minister and government, the prime minister can just say there’s no time for it every week making the motion pointless?
And the worst thing of all is despite all this shit. A bunch of imbeciles on 20k a year will vote for these Tory plonkers for a tax decrease to 19% which will get them an extra 8 quid a month. Compared to someone on 50k+ who would get 5x as much.
It says alot about the UK, and particularly England, when you have even less confidence in the population than you do the government.
I genuinely think NI, Scotland and Wales would all be much better off away from the UK. These three countries combined with Ireland as a Celtic Kingdom could thrive. And dare I say it would have stronger allies globally as well. Particularly with America and Europe.
We’ll even save our Northern brothers and sisters by giving England a taste of their own medicine and colonising them.
I’ve been watching PMQs for around the last 6 months now and it’s the same rhetoric every time.
Boris gets asked a question and he answers “Did you know this party (implying labour) voted against <insert unrelated policy>. <insert random unrelated shit to another policy>“
And the other frustrating thing is the same shite like “we’ve got more nurses than ever”, well no fecking shit Sherlock considering the population is the highest ever. What about the nurse to population ratio?
Or when they talk about funding NHS with the most ever, which again should be expected given inflation. Or about their energy pay outs as “the most in europe” which is more misleading bullshit considering other European countries like France applied strict energy caps meaning their residents are saving a lot more than Boris poxy payouts.
Then the same bollocks about new hospitals every week which is a lie and always has been. It’s like me painting my living room and saying I built a new house.
I remember a few months ago Boris then comes out saying Keir Starmer was to blame for Jimmy Saville not being prosecuted which was made up. And that was just allowed to fly? Yet when other politicians say about Boris lying in the house or misleading the public they instantly have to retract and rephrase their statements on the spot?
I honestly don’t get the point of PMQs anymore. Seems the Prime Minister can pick and choose what he answers and how he answers and can lie as frequently as he likes and never gets called out for it. But anyone else is held to account over the smallest of things.
And then even this vote of no confidence today getting blocked because of the timetable? Like you fecking serious? So the next time the opposition has no confidence in the prime minister and government, the prime minister can just say there’s no time for it every week making the motion pointless?
And the worst thing of all is despite all this shit. A bunch of imbeciles on 20k a year will vote for these Tory plonkers for a tax decrease to 19% which will get them an extra 8 quid a month. Compared to someone on 50k+ who would get 5x as much.
It says alot about the UK, and particularly England, when you have even less confidence in the population than you do the government.
I genuinely think NI, Scotland and Wales would all be much better off away from the UK. These three countries combined with Ireland as a Celtic Kingdom could thrive. And dare I say it would have stronger allies globally as well. Particularly with America and Europe.
We’ll even save our Northern brothers and sisters by giving England a taste of their own medicine and colonising them.
This press?
Yeah, we are screwed as a nation.
I forget the Express still exists. I can't muster the same hate for it as the DM and Sun, as it's always felt like such an irrelevance. Any long-term reader of the Express is way beyond hope.He is something of a mystery man, I just think he has enough good sense not to want to attempt the twin suicide missions of standing for the Tories leadership and in such a post then by some fluke winning the next election. He does not appear to be or sound like your typical grasping politician, at least as far as I can make out, which is perhaps his biggest appeal; but I agree he is something of a 'dark horse' in terms of policy etc.
Most of the Tories I know (which is not that many) are all disappointed he is not standing... some even think he may have been 'nobbled' by some of the Tory 'grandees'... a 'night of the long knives' type re-run perhaps?
Yes this attempt at kicking around a 'political corpse' is just unbelievable really, but then again it's Labour.... so perhaps not!
I'm getting more terrified.