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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
My bad for caring about the actual views and potential policy of political parties.
Above all, today’s exchanges were a reminder that PMQs is a challenge and that you can’t simply rely on what has been scripted in advance. Leaving aside the trans jibe, Sunak had a decent riff prepared about Keir Starmer’s numberous U-turns (see 12.06pm) and if he had had the nous, on hearing that Esther Ghey was in the gallery, to drop the punchline, he would have been OK. But he didn’t, because he hasn’t got the political agilty, or the capacity to avoid the insensitive (the same instinct that would might protected in his Piers Morgan interview).
I think this is spot on from The Guardian snap verdict.
Is it accurate though? I know we're generally on the same page with Starmer and Streeting, but saw this the other day which is an interesting thread.
Probably. Christian = good?
You are a child if you cannot comprehend why they were actually offended.
Labour not being as pro trans in their policies as you like is a separate point.
"Christian" = if I get sent back to Afghanistan I will be killed
Very common ploy
Cheers. Possibility I guess but the thread ends up calling Streeting a coward. Imo saying safe accommodations for trans people is basically saying separate wards. He also follows it up with the terf line about women in particular feeling uncomfortable.
If this was a one off moment then maybe but this is party which dropped its pledge to make it easier for trans people to self id. Todays outrage from Labour is completely hollow and they would happily say the same thing if it polled well with voters.
Getting offended at transphobia while also not supporting trans rights is a very Starmer position to take.
Yes, it's a clearly ludicrous position that conversion to Christianity should have a bearing on an asylum application.
Not going to derail the thread but trans rights is a kind of misnomer in this context, Starmer has to tread carefully on certain, divisive and easily spun subjects. Look at the level of vitriol Corbyn took. He cannot give these horrific Conservatives an easy attack.
Quite right. It takes SweetSquare 10 seconds to jump on these.
Your original post was a very Sweet Square take. You don't agree with me, therefore you are bad and I question if you are actually offended. Wtf
Labour are massively head of the tories in the polls. Also fear of Tory attack lines isn’t the reason why he’s backed track on pro trans policies.
Its worth saying Starmer treading carefully approach has his popularity(According to yougov)at 30% and dislike at around 40%. It’s not a incredibly strategy which is making him likeable. Although optics isn’t the reason for Starmer right wing shift.
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It being just a joke and said in jest was good enough for Starmer when his Health Secretary was cracking hilarious gags about Corbyn being senile, so I'm sure he'll be fine with this explanation from Sunak.
Plus we know he doesn't disagree with the content of Sunak's 'joke' anyway.
But he won't. So we will have to wait until whenever he finally calls the election when he will be kicked out.
Didn’t realise the caf was so anti-Starmer
What a pair of cnuts. Both assholes.
This line of thinking is absolutely bonkers this day and age
'Yes Starmer and his party believes exactly the same as this joke, but Starmer is a principled and statesman like coward who wouldn't say it out loud whilst someone affected was in the room'
Meanwhile.
What about trying to do trade deals (that you've failed at) and hoping to ship goods halfway across the world when you're biggest customer and supplier is 22 miles across the sea.
I guess we might as well not bother about it then.
Welcome to politics. Power, public perception and timing are key.
A comment that is made one day is terrible but not politically damaging but another day it is.. a sincerely held position may be what you want but if the public doesn't accept it you have to time when to push to change the narrative right and get the changes you want etc.
Most people are boomers that don't get trans issues, but most people understand a mother's love, how painful it must be to lose a child, and how objectionable it is to be rude to guests.. but no instead of using the opportunity to push for acceptance and move the needle, let's just be snarky shits, eh
A comment that is made one day is terrible but not politically damaging but another day it is.. a sincerely held position may be what you want but if the public doesn't accept it you have to time when to push to change the narrative right and get the changes you want etc.
Most people are boomers that don't get trans issues, but most people understand a mother's love, how painful it must be to lose a child, and how objectionable it is to be rude to guests.. but no instead of using the opportunity to push for acceptance and move the needle, let's just be snarky shits, eh
Most people understood trans issues just fine even four or five years ago. The subject has since been weaponised by the right as part of the culture wars and trans folk have been demonised in the same way immigrants are. It’s preposterous.
I did think this as well. The tories will just tell you they don’t like you.
In a way, Sunak is the real victim here.
Wow.