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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Gah, hadn't realised she was terminal. RIP.
Eagerly waiting for the Mail meltdown.
Great stuff. The House of Lords have stepped up recently and taken the role of progressive adults. It’s bizarre but great to see.
Don't know where to put this so it's going here.
Nicola Sturgeon wanting to ban 2 for 1 food deals. What is it with politicians getting involved in absolute bollocks that affects little more than the common man's slight enjoyment of something?
I couldn't care less about the ban because I don't think I've ever even had a 2 for 1 (or seen that many. Is there more in Scotland?), but politicians being dicks annoys me.
If you really wanna affect obesity positively then educate, subsidise healthy food for young people, subsidise gym memberships or workshops or something.
Too long term, might cost a bit, and not as satisfying for a politician though.
Nicola Sturgeon wanting to ban 2 for 1 food deals. What is it with politicians getting involved in absolute bollocks that affects little more than the common man's slight enjoyment of something?
I couldn't care less about the ban because I don't think I've ever even had a 2 for 1 (or seen that many. Is there more in Scotland?), but politicians being dicks annoys me.
If you really wanna affect obesity positively then educate, subsidise healthy food for young people, subsidise gym memberships or workshops or something.
Too long term, might cost a bit, and not as satisfying for a politician though.
Not seen many 2 for 1s? You must not shop in Morrisons, Asda or Tesco then.
I hate 2 for 1s, they encourage waste, and that can't be good. For example, in Morrisons you can buy two packs of bacon knowing that even if you throw half of the second one away it won't have cost you any more. Not good.
I think this is applying to takeaways and sit-downs, but could be that too.
As for the shop deals, I imagine they're often put on to get stuff out because there's too much? More chance of it not being wasted in someone's fridge than on a shelf in the supermarket and you can freeze most stuff.
Nah, it's a permanent thing for bacon, meat, orange juice, loads of things.
Fair enough. Can still be frozen though. I'd rather they look at solving things without it affecting the pocket of the public who haven't done anything wrong for once, which I think is almost always possible. Solving obesity definitely is.
The amount of abuse MP's get(Especially MP's of colour) is something that really isn't talked about enough.
True, and it really should be discussed more. I just absolutely abhor racism, it is vile.
Diane Abbott gets some truly disgusting abuse.
Yet it’s mostly dismissed as abit of ‘banter’.
Her treatment in the last general election wasn nothing short of disgraceful.
Yeah I mostly admire Sturgeon's effort to target health problems and largely support the new MUP policy, but banning certain food deals - especially 2 for 1's that aren't particularly extreme - strikes me as going a bit too far.
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She does. But in current social climate it's not surprising, she's black and a woman. There's a big racist/mennist venn diagram.
That said she is bloody awful though. Absolutely nothing to do with her race or gender she just always seems out of her depth whatever the subject and has an annoying habit on TV of answering questions as if the person she's responding to is hearing English for the very first time. Richard Burgon is another one from the Labour front bench who comes across like someone who only became a politician because on the day he applied every other candidate died unexpectedly.
The journalist probably knew(t) it was a spoof story, chiefo.
What a complete non-story.
"Will you vote to abolish the House of Lords?"
- Will it make it more likely you give me a peerage of I say yes?
"Yes"
- Then of course I will
"Here's the peerage"
....
"So um...you've been in there for a while haven't voted to abolish the House of Lords yet?"
- Sorry, could you speak up, I'm a trifle deaf in one ear
It's sad in the current political climate that 'party leader will seek to impose whip on party members during Parliamentary vote' is actually being sold as something radical. Every single Labour member in Parliament is supposed to vote with the leader. Many times they defy the whip. The idea you address this by asking them nicely not to before they go in is honestly too pathetic to even warrant the attention I've given to it in this post. What will this pledge be based on? Scouts honour? Pinkie promise? Crossing their heart and hope to die?
Ugh. Horrendous this is what the Labour party are reduced to, especially in the current climate. Whats worse is someone inside the party/camp is actually releasing this thinking it's a great story for the party. Presumably hoping people don't realise that revoking a peerage if they don't vote the way you want them to isn't a thing.
What next? Corbyn's 'radical' new plan to avoid ever losing a vote in Parliament, get all his MPs to promise not to vote against him. Fool proof!
Again: fecking hell.
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Drug ministers husband is the biggest weed dealer in Europe. Election fraud minister works with election fraudsters. PM's husband sells bombs to the Saudi's so they can bomb Yemen. Foreign minister takes hundreds of thousands of pounds from Russian friends of Putin. But Dennis Skinner gets kicked out of the commons for calling them dodgy.
She's quite fit for an MP.
Yeah but Skinner did say it in a rather loud tone. You would think they would able to hide the corruption a bit better, the sheer lack of effort put in is almost as insulting.
Honestly when I saw this on twitter the first thing that pop into my head wasn't the fraud but the chance you might find her attractive. I'm not sure what this forum has done to me.
Yeah but Skinner did say it in a rather loud tone. You would think they would able to hide the corruption a bit better, the sheer lack of effort put in is almost as insulting.
Honestly when I saw this on twitter the first thing that pop into my head wasn't the fraud but the chance you might find her attractive. I'm not sure what this forum has done to me.
We always focus on the important things.Bah, all that's missing is Gordon the Gopher.
The truly absurd thing about all of this is that after 8 years of tory maltreatment a large part of the voters are still scared that a labour government would be incompetent... All these pain inducing cuts will not save half the money the tories threw out the window by having a national referendum to secure the party's leadership position.
It's a weird situation.
Under normal circumstances, the Tories should be looking at a wilderness. It's upsetting tbh. People tell us to refrain from calling the electorate stupid. I can't find any other description.
Yes it is upsetting, I couldn't describe it better. Personally I've come to the conclusion that enough of the electorate decides their vote on something other than policy that the policy itself has somehow become irrelevant, it's depressing. I know it's little consolation but it seems to be the case everywhere (not just the UK), or at least everywhere I look
.Any government with this one's track record would ordinarily be staring into the abyss. The fact they're not I don't think is unrelated to the fact Labour now seem to celebrate losing elections and viewing within-margin-of-error polling leads to be a massive positive.
Yes it is upsetting, I couldn't describe it better. Personally I've come to the conclusion that enough of the electorate decides their vote on something other than policy that the policy itself has somehow become irrelevant, it's depressing. I know it's little consolation but it seems to be the case everywhere (not just the UK), or at least everywhere I look
I don't think it's really that difficult to diagnose.
Whether the electorate like the Conservatives or not, and some will do as Brexit fanatics, it appears that huge chunks of the population are simply unconvinced that Labour are a safe pair of hands with the economy, and that Labour incompetence will do more harm than Tory malice.
People will have reached those conclusions for a whole variety of reasons – some fair and some unfair – but there's a genuine distrust of Corbyn's Labour party, and whilst they're currently supporting the most ruinous Tory policy of them all I can't blame them.
Corbyn has been polling third behind 'Don't Know' in a two horse race of 'who will make the best PM?' since October (and has only been ahead of May once since she became PM), given how spectacularly bad a job almost everyone agrees she's doing (I seriously am yet to speak to a single Conservative voter that rates her, although admittedly I do not know many), that's a pretty damning indictment of the publics perception of Corbyn's ability to successfully lead.
I agree with this. The reaction to the last election was disappointing. Yes the result wasn't as bad as feared, but Labour still lost, the Tories still won. But there was no introspection, no looking inwards. Regardless of how much worse it was predicted to be I'll never be comfortable with the idea that a Tory can walk into Number 10 and Labour's (or specifically, the Labour leader's) supporters being almost in celebratory mode. There is a mistrust of Corbyn like you say but we're dealing with a party now that largely doesn't seem to care if it wins elections so it's not surprising they don't much seem to care about why Corbyn doesn't connect with the electorate.