Westminster Politics

“Them’s the breaks”. Laughing my arse off

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Now get him out of number 10 asap.
 
Snap election upcomming or will the tories try to ride this as long as possible?
 


So, given the rumours of him not leaving Foreign Office because he didn't want to pay rent on a flat, this comes outm
 
The sad thing is he will probably sit on a beach with a cocktail thinking he did a great job and that he got shafted unfairly. I don’t understand how we vote people like this (even indirectly) into office.
 
The scary thing about this is that while Boris is done for. He’s not the worse of the bunch, and amongst the worse & most corrupt will likely be a future PM.

Boris is mostly in trouble for doing something we find very commendable. He “backed his boys/gals” He constantly does this, even when for his and his PR it would have been best and justified to reprimand or fire certain individuals. Things that come to mind, I’m sure there are more, Priti bullying, Rishi & wife corruption, Cummings trip… and even these latest things are him trying to protect people he considers “his people” .

I’m not saying it’s right or even smart when in his position. But I admire it. I also feel bad for him because amongst those that betrayed him are some he personally protected when he could have destroyed eg Rishi and Priti . But I feel worse for the U.K. because it feels like a win, but really it’s not. It’s like a neighbourhood feeling safe because a pushy sales man is gone, not realising it was burglars and killers that got rid of him.
 
The scary thing about this is that while Boris is done for. He’s not the worse of the bunch, and amongst the worse & most corrupt will likely be a future PM.

Boris is mostly in trouble for doing something we find very commendable. He “backed his boys/gals” He constantly does this, even when for his and his PR it would have been best and justified to reprimand or fire certain individuals. Things that come to mind, I’m sure there are more, Priti bullying, Rishi & wife corruption, Cummings trip… and even these latest things are him trying to protect people he considers “his people” .

I’m not saying it’s right or even smart when in his position. But I admire it. I also feel bad for him because amongst those that betrayed him are some he personally protected when he could have destroyed eg Rishi and Priti . But I feel worse for the U.K. because it feels like a win, but really it’s not. It’s like a neighbourhood feeling safe because a pushy sales man is gone, not realising it was burglars and killers that got rid of him.

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It think it was a dignified speech in the sense that he did not let emotions get the better of him. There were a few allusions to 'herd mentality' but he didn't really linger on them that much but said just enough to give an insight into what may have happened behind the scenes. He could have cast aspersions more directly and that would have tipped the balance. He steered clear of that instead of bowing to ego and going after individuals.

He has just lost his job, the biggest one of all, and he has faced the media and managed to sound reasonably upbeat and positive about the country's future, despite having a clear mandate to govern from the British people.

I am not here to defend what has been levelled at him but looking solely at the speech in isloation, it was a reasonable and fair way of bowing out.
 
It think it was a dignified speech in the sense that he did not let emotions get the better of him. There were a few allusions to 'herd mentality' but he didn't really linger on them that much but said just enough to give an insight into what may have happened behind the scenes. He could have cast aspersions more directly and that would have tipped the balance. He steered clear of that instead of bowing to ego and going after individuals.

He has just lost his job, the biggest one of all, and he has faced the media and managed to sound reasonably upbeat and positive about the country's future, despite having a clear mandate to govern from the British people.

I am not here to defend what has been levelled at him but looking solely at the speech in isloation, it was a reasonable and fair way of bowing out.
apart from tory mps briefing that they are even more pissed with him for not taking responsibility for his predicament and casting aspersions on their herd mentality.... hell be gone for good soon enough i think.
 
The scary thing about this is that while Boris is done for. He’s not the worse of the bunch, and amongst the worse & most corrupt will likely be a future PM.

Boris is mostly in trouble for doing something we find very commendable. He “backed his boys/gals” He constantly does this, even when for his and his PR it would have been best and justified to reprimand or fire certain individuals. Things that come to mind, I’m sure there are more, Priti bullying, Rishi & wife corruption, Cummings trip… and even these latest things are him trying to protect people he considers “his people” .

I’m not saying it’s right or even smart when in his position. But I admire it. I also feel bad for him because amongst those that betrayed him are some he personally protected when he could have destroyed eg Rishi and Priti . But I feel worse for the U.K. because it feels like a win, but really it’s not. It’s like a neighbourhood feeling safe because a pushy sales man is gone, not realising it was burglars and killers that got rid of him.
You admire Boris Johnson for defending someone he knew was a sexual predator?
 
It think it was a dignified speech in the sense that he did not let emotions get the better of him. There were a few allusions to 'herd mentality' but he didn't really linger on them that much but said just enough to give an insight into what may have happened behind the scenes. He could have cast aspersions more directly and that would have tipped the balance. He steered clear of that instead of bowing to ego and going after individuals.

He has just lost his job, the biggest one of all, and he has faced the media and managed to sound reasonably upbeat and positive about the country's future, despite having a clear mandate to govern from the British people.

I am not here to defend what has been levelled at him but looking solely at the speech in isloation, it was a reasonable and fair way of bowing out.

I have to disagree. He just repeated more lies in the speech like he always does.
 
The scary thing about this is that while Boris is done for. He’s not the worse of the bunch, and amongst the worse & most corrupt will likely be a future PM.

Boris is mostly in trouble for doing something we find very commendable. He “backed his boys/gals” He constantly does this, even when for his and his PR it would have been best and justified to reprimand or fire certain individuals. Things that come to mind, I’m sure there are more, Priti bullying, Rishi & wife corruption, Cummings trip… and even these latest things are him trying to protect people he considers “his people” .

I’m not saying it’s right or even smart when in his position. But I admire it. I also feel bad for him because amongst those that betrayed him are some he personally protected when he could have destroyed eg Rishi and Priti . But I feel worse for the U.K. because it feels like a win, but really it’s not. It’s like a neighbourhood feeling safe because a pushy sales man is gone, not realising it was burglars and killers that got rid of him.

Odd take.

Personally, I think hes a power hungry compulsive liar who appeared to be both lazy and outrageously incompetent to boot. The most shambolic prime minister I've seen in my lifetime, and a walking disaster many of us saw coming.

He does speak quite well and certainly knows how to play to his base. He's a populist afterall. He stands for nothing I suspect, in reality.

I can't see anything to admire about the man, or any reason he should deserve our sympathy. But each to their own of course.

I only hope they boot him out of #10 sharpish. Being in a position of that much power with nothing to lose doesn't sound like a good combination to me.
 
apart from tory mps briefing that they are even more pissed with him for not taking responsibility for his predicament and casting aspersions on their herd mentality.... hell be gone for good soon enough i think.

As I said, I don't think Beth Rigby is wrong to say it was 'dignified'. The speech itself was about as good as it could have been under the circumstances. He had to say something to the nation and he chose his words more or less judiciously. Put it this way, if Boris stood there grovelling for 10 minutes flat, anything he would say would fall on very stony ground indeed. What do people want him to say and why?

It was a decent resignation speech and it struck the right tone for the most part; but now it is time to move on.
 
As I said, I don't think Beth Rigby is wrong to say it was 'dignified'. The speech itself was about as good as it could have been under the circumstances. He had to say something to the nation and he chose his words more or less judiciously.

It was a decent resignation speech and it struck more or less the right tone; but now it is time to move on.

I mean it would be if he'd actually feckin gone but he hasn't has he.
 
Is nobody concerned that he didn’t actually resign?

He’ll want to limp along until recess, get to Chequers, party his dick off, let his media mates invent some shit about a coup, pray every night that the war gets worse, hope a vote of no confidence is tabled, survive it, and start this whole shit show over again.

If they lose momentum, his will will outlast all of ours. The man has no depths to his depravity. No conscience. He’ll still be there at Christmas.
 
Is nobody concerned that he didn’t actually resign?

He’ll want to limp along until recess, get to Chequers, party his dick off, let his media mates invent some shit about a coup, pray every night that the war gets worse, hope a vote of no confidence is tabled, survive it, and start this whole shit show over again.

If they lose momentum, his will will outlast all of ours. The man has no depths to his depravity. No conscience. He’ll still be there at Christmas.

Yup.

I think that's exactly what his game is. He's probably hoping for some kind of gammon revolt like his compatriot across the pond.
 
It think it was a dignified speech in the sense that he did not let emotions get the better of him. There were a few allusions to 'herd mentality' but he didn't really linger on them that much but said just enough to give an insight into what may have happened behind the scenes. He could have cast aspersions more directly and that would have tipped the balance. He steered clear of that instead of bowing to ego and going after individuals.

He has just lost his job, the biggest one of all, and he has faced the media and managed to sound reasonably upbeat and positive about the country's future, despite having a clear mandate to govern from the British people.

I am not here to defend what has been levelled at him but looking solely at the speech in isloation, it was a reasonable and fair way of bowing out.
Except I don't think that he felt such a level of emotion that it was difficult for him to get the better of them.
 
Is nobody concerned that he didn’t actually resign?

He’ll want to limp along until recess, get to Chequers, party his dick off, let his media mates invent some shit about a coup, pray every night that the war gets worse, hope a vote of no confidence is tabled, survive it, and start this whole shit show over again.

If they lose momentum, his will will outlast all of ours. The man has no depths to his depravity. No conscience. He’ll still be there at Christmas.

That is what I have said as well. He absolutely should have gone immediately because we all know what he is like.
 
Is nobody concerned that he didn’t actually resign?

He’ll want to limp along until recess, get to Chequers, party his dick off, let his media mates invent some shit about a coup, pray every night that the war gets worse, hope a vote of no confidence is tabled, survive it, and start this whole shit show over again.

If they lose momentum, his will will outlast all of ours. The man has no depths to his depravity. No conscience. He’ll still be there at Christmas.

Didn’t he accidentally say “Chequers” during his speech ? Talk about a Freudian slip!
 
like his compatriot across the pond

The similarities are that at the beginning, both men could not imagine they would ever get elected; although once they did, their ambition became a drug... that is the lesson other politicians have to learn, to fight...or to take a 'whiff' or two themselves!