I didn't realise Sociedad placed so much emphasis on their youth system. If Moyes didn't recognise Barkley's talent then you have to wonder about his judgment and maybe that his work with bringing through youth was mostly a myth. I mean didn't one of the Everton youth coaches criticise him? It will therefore be very interesting to see what happens. All I know is that he will not be getting the support from the Sociedad fans that he got from us when things were going real bad. So he better prepare himself for that atmosphere. Can't wait to see what happens though, at least he'll stop talking about us for a while (I hope!).
What Now For Moyes?
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Mmmmmmmm, Penny.
Interesting choice, to be honest, I also think it will end in a disappointing season and can see them relegated or not far away from beeing relegated at the end. I just don't think he suits La Liga at all, it is more technical and less physical and he will struggle to make an impact there.
I don't wish him luck or anything, he was annoying in the end and couldn't stop talking about us, now it's his time to show what he is worth. When he gets sacked he can finally stop talking about us and complain why they don't give him more time to build a new side in the Segunda Division.
I don't wish him luck or anything, he was annoying in the end and couldn't stop talking about us, now it's his time to show what he is worth. When he gets sacked he can finally stop talking about us and complain why they don't give him more time to build a new side in the Segunda Division.
Unfortunately if they sack him he will somehow come back and find a way to blame United. It's good on him to try another league, feel like it's something you should do at the start of your career though. At his age, I think he'll be too set in his ways to adapt. But of course we will see, and he won't have as much power there as he did at United, so that should keep him in check.
Penny....penny....penny
Imagine he goes and beats Madrid and Barca...
I can see it happening. Or at least beating one of them and this place going nuts.
So much for Moyes insisting he'd hold out for a champions league club. I think he was the only one on thr planet that actually believed that could happen. Moyes might actually become a better coach in Spain if he is open to learning new methods and not insist on sticking to the only way he knows
Sociedad now 2-1 up. Is this the last act of a team trying to turn the form around and convince senior officials that things aren't desperate enough for Moyes yet?
They beat Atletico 2-1
Nothing Moyes won't be able to sort out.
More popular choice than in our poll then...
Not a bad move for him.
A clearly under-performing side who are much better than their table position suggests.
He's away from the spotlight and scrutiny of the English press, who would have painted him as a total joke if he struggled at his hypothetical next English club. Now they probably won't care.
He gets to potentially rebuild his reputation in a country that probably don't really see him as damaged goods, in much the same way ex-Real and ex-Barca managers would probably be viewed fairly positively here if appointed as coaches of mid-table sides.
He gets to live in San Sebastian which is one of Europe's finest cities.
A clearly under-performing side who are much better than their table position suggests.
He's away from the spotlight and scrutiny of the English press, who would have painted him as a total joke if he struggled at his hypothetical next English club. Now they probably won't care.
He gets to potentially rebuild his reputation in a country that probably don't really see him as damaged goods, in much the same way ex-Real and ex-Barca managers would probably be viewed fairly positively here if appointed as coaches of mid-table sides.
He gets to live in San Sebastian which is one of Europe's finest cities.
This.
Not so surprising considering Atléti were down to 10 men for almost the entire second half, though nice turn-around from Real Sociedad after going 1-0 down so early (10th minute)... They beat Real Madrid 4-2 at the beginning of the season as well after going down 2-0 inside the first 11 minutes. Incredibly, these are the only 2 games they've won so far this season.
They had a Basque only rule like Bilbao until the late 80s. Their first foreign player was actually ex-Liverpool John Aldridge.
I think the fans don't mind his signing that much. Pepe Mel is the preferred choice for the majority, but most agree he's an improvement over their previous coach, homegrown Arrasate.
I wonder if he already learned how to say "cross it" in spanish
lol the hate is still real.
Great move for Moyes if it happens, must have realized the offer from a CL club was never going to come. I reckon Sociedad will come 7th in his first full season in charge he seems to be a genius at making teams mid table, hes taken teams who were almost relegated and runaway champions the season before and lead/dragged them to 7th. Doesn't matter how good or bad you are Dave will make you mid table.
I hope he does well enough to keep himself in a job over there for a few years, at least it will give us a break from his crying in the media about being sacked.
I hope he does well enough to keep himself in a job over there for a few years, at least it will give us a break from his crying in the media about being sacked.
Lol. It'd be funny if they go on a 10 win strike just to avoid being coached by Moyes.
I fail to see what's so good about Moyes, he's shit with youth, he plays shit football, can't change any tactics even to safe his job (literally), can't inspire his players, seriously... what's so good about Moyes?
Keeping Everton midtable for 10 years, failing to win away even once against the top 4, no trophies not even mickey mouse cup to show for...
Seriously...
I fail to see what's so good about Moyes, he's shit with youth, he plays shit football, can't change any tactics even to safe his job (literally), can't inspire his players, seriously... what's so good about Moyes?
Keeping Everton midtable for 10 years, failing to win away even once against the top 4, no trophies not even mickey mouse cup to show for...
Seriously...
Well, they already beat RM this season (at home, extremely doubtful they'll be able to repeat it at the Bernabéu) and doing it against Barça isn't far-fetched either... they're unbeaten against them at Anoeta since coming back up in 2010 (3 wins & 2 draws). So if Moyes takes over and they lose to Barça at home he'll have broken another record
Just read on AS that he apparently wanted Phil Neville to be his assistant but he rejected it to continue on MOTD. They think Gary McAllister may be his no.2.
Nope.
Nope.
From what Sid Lowe is saying, he's Sociedad's first choice, but isn't sure he wants the job. If he turns it down, they'll go for Pepe Mel.
The way I see it is that Moyes probably thinks that, at best, he could only do at Soceidad what he did Everton. Turn them into a consistent top 5-8 team, without every really challenging for the big prizes. In that sense, it's a sideways step from Everton, and he's probably still looking to go one better.
But maybe he'll bite the bullet and give it a chance.
It's still a chance to show that he can do it in a different league, and it's a way to come back after his failure at United. He needs to rebuild his reputation, so a sideways step from Everton might be as good as offer as he can get. Not that he seems to share that opinion though!
Marca are still reporting that the wages/contract terms Moyes is looking for are too high for Real. Marca think that unless something changes tonight, Pepe Mel will be getting the job.
Actually, he should give up wage demands and take the job, sociedad are just about the level Moyes is best suited for, doing half decent at a foreign league will restore some of his value. He should give up the thought of taking over a cl team in any of the top leagues for the time being.
A low ball bid for Vela please Roberto with a comment about if he was Sociedad manager he wouldn't stand in his players way.
So he's, er, dithering again, isn't he? Hopefully he's using his iPad to research the city.
I wonder if he thinks he's in with a chance for the Spurs job?
Winter sacking season is only just starting, there may be better (paid) jobs appearing soon enough.
Winter sacking season is only just starting, there may be better (paid) jobs appearing soon enough.
He's probably waiting until the 85th minute of their next game.
He should take the job IMO, they have a decent squad and the expectations wont be too high, if he can get them into Europe in a few years his stock would have risen again. At the moment he is seen as damaged goods can't see him getting a UCL club to be honest.
If he wants a fat pay cheque, which is his prerogative, I think he'll just follow an Allardyce-like trajectory of getting 'good' jobs at respected clubs like Newcastle and West Ham, or maybe an Aston Villa. He'll keep them in the league, most likely get them in the hunt for the Europa, and get paid well for doing so. Kind of like Everton a little bit. The irony.
If he's after a Champions League job, considering that is how highly he apparently rates himself to be, then he shouldn't even think about the Premier League, or being that well paid, infact. So, what does he want more, big beans or Bayern Munich?
If he's after a Champions League job, considering that is how highly he apparently rates himself to be, then he shouldn't even think about the Premier League, or being that well paid, infact. So, what does he want more, big beans or Bayern Munich?
Surely impossible to say if he's not been offered a job at a CL Club yet?
He turned down a job in Spain, it could of been many reasons other than just money. Equally even if it is about money he is in a position to do that at the moment.
The "how highly he rates himself" stuff I find a bit strange to and everyone always says it. So what if he rates himself highly? He got a lot of praise in his Everton days (the revisionist history on here makes out they should of been winning league titles) and had 1 bad job. There's nothing wrong with him being confident about himself really I'm sure he is still thought of quite highly in a lot of football circles other than fans.
Unless you are Mourinho or Pep, or maybe someone like FSW, who has winning trophies to show, spending year or so out of job is risky for football managers. Every now and then some previously unheard of name will rise to prominence and those who are out of job begin to move down the list. Sociedad is not a bad opportunity for Moyes. Taking up a club near relegation zone, with just a fourth of season done, he has nothing to lose. If he saves them from relegation and gets them back to top half next season, who knows, his stock will rise again. Just sitting around waiting for 'perfect fit' will take him further down the options/priority list as season progresses further.
It is, but I think if he was we would have heard about it via his mates in the media. I'm being a bit facetious, I know, but Moyes does make use of his contacts in the broadsheets and has been on some sort of positive PR trail in recent weeks, which he's perfectly entitled to do given his popularity amongst them. All managers would the same. You're right about money, there could be all sorts of reasons. His family, I would suspect, being the most important one.
I don't have a major issue with how highly he personally rates himself. But it doesn't matter what he thinks, it's what potential employers think. If he really wants Champions League football then I don't see him getting that in Spain, England or Germany any time soon. He'll have to go abroad. If this is the case, then he most probably will be on less money, and it's a whole lot easier for a solid British manager to sit on his hands, wait until QPR or Newcastle sack their latest guy, to go and save the day on brilliant wages.