Who is going to be the Next Prime Minister of the UK? | Be your stubborn best

So we could potentially get a new PM based solely on the fact no one else in the party had the guts to see through a leadership bid :lol:

Osbourne must be gutted he wussed out of this one.
 
So our next prime minister will have been selected by 60% of Conservative MPs elected by 37% of 66% of registered voters

15% mandate
 
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Pathetic. Why even bother running if you're this thin-skinned?

I doubt its being thin-skinned necessarily. Just an excuse.

I had a feeling she might jack it in after the news stories over the weekend. Seems to be that her Theresa May comments lost her the support of the rest of the Tories (except IDS but he's so vile no one cares what he thinks) and she was entering Corbyn territory of becoming leader with no one supporting her.

I'm not even sure if Tory members supported her, her greatest support bases seemed to be UKIP voters. Could we see her defect and run for UKIP leadership?
 
Watching her recently, I had uncomfortable memories of Edwina Currie: a smug woman who thought she was God's gift to men, decisive only when it meant other people might suffer from those decisions, and worryingly capable of 'inspired' decisions like putting Jimmy Savile in charge of Broadmoor.
 
I can't believe Theresa May is going to become PM by literally doing nothing
 
I doubt its being thin-skinned necessarily. Just an excuse.

I had a feeling she might jack it in after the news stories over the weekend. Seems to be that her Theresa May comments lost her the support of the rest of the Tories (except IDS but he's so vile no one cares what he thinks) and she was entering Corbyn territory of becoming leader with no one supporting her.

I'm not even sure if Tory members supported her, her greatest support bases seemed to be UKIP voters. Could we see her defect and run for UKIP leadership?

Seems like Leadsom confirmed this theory of mine in her presser:

Andrea Leadsom says her backing from MPs is not "sufficient support to lead a strong and stable government" if she were to win the leadership election.
 
As someone who's not very educated about British politics, I'm confused. How can there be a new PM without an election? Surely a new leader will have different ideas than Cameron and an election is needed to mandate them to lead the country?

This whole affair doesn't seem "democratic" to me.
In other countries it's the same. In the USA after Kennedy was assassinated Johnson became president without an election.

Sometimes the opposition will demand an election such as when Blair left office. But that's only seen as fair by the oppositition, whoever it is.
 
Theresa May is my inspiration now:

If you sit around doing nothing you will eventually achieve your aims
 
May will most likely announce a general election for the end of the year in order to capitalize on a weakened Labour (with next summer being the latest point she's likely to call it).
 
If May is ushered in as leader now on fast track she might decide calling a snap GE would be a very good idea, the Tories would probably come out of it with a stronger mandate than they have already given Labour are nowhere close to sorting themselves out.
 
Fair play to her for "realising" you need MPs to be on your side.
 
1922 committee confirm that Gove won't be able to Portugal it and that May has won.

Edit: BBC have now changed the write up to say the exact opposite of what it originally said.

Now says that the 1922 committee have to 'consult' before confirming May.
 
Cameron will be running round hiding all the pig head masks as we speak.

Theresa May ffs :lol:
 
Gambler Gove's final throw of the dice: "As a mother..."
 
Is May actually in a better position than Cameron would have been if he stayed on?
 
No GE happening very quickly, the Conservatives love being in power too much for that to happen. And half their voters are not far off defecting to UKIP. Mrs May will now calm things down & toddle off to some very tricky negotiations with the EU. How fast/slow might they move forward with that?

Some tricky speeches getting written all round the shop now.
 
Is May actually in a better position than Cameron would have been if he stayed on?
I think marginally if you view having the referendum in the first place as a mistake, given that it wasnt her mistake.

I think the argument that the country should be led by a Brexiter made some sense but the fact there are none to be seen speaks volumes and validates her position. If Cameron has stayed on all the Brexiters would still be buzzing around him strengthening their positions without having to take any responsibility for the mess.

(I am really looking forward to being able to turn that phrase "the mess Labour left us with" round onto the Tories now. From here on in the mess being dealt with is not anything left over from Labour.)
 
If May is ushered in as leader now on fast track she might decide calling a snap GE would be a very good idea, the Tories would probably come out of it with a stronger mandate than they have already given Labour are nowhere close to sorting themselves out.
I dunno. She doesn't come across as a risk taker and not sure how she'll go down in the home counties, given she was remain.
 
No GE happening very quickly, the Conservatives love being in power too much for that to happen. And half their voters are not far off defecting to UKIP. Mrs May will now calm things down & toddle off to some very tricky negotiations with the EU. How fast/slow might they move forward with that?

Some tricky speeches getting written all round the shop now.
I can see this logic but I am a little undecided how I think it will play out.

It seems to be the people on the verge of defecting to UKIP are northern Labour voters. Will people defect from the Tories to UKIP? I guess they might if they feel May will welch on Brexit, but as long as she can convince them she will deliver it - and she does seem to be making the right noises - the appeal of UKIP seems to have been neutered as far as Tories are concerned.

If I was May I might see it as an opportunity to annihilate Labour. That might be too tempting to turn down.
 
No GE happening very quickly, the Conservatives love being in power too much for that to happen. And half their voters are not far off defecting to UKIP. Mrs May will now calm things down & toddle off to some very tricky negotiations with the EU. How fast/slow might they move forward with that?

Some tricky speeches getting written all round the shop now.

Maybe. But May should have her lack of democratic mandate brought up at every possible opportunity. With the attacks on short money and union funding every attempt should be made to paint the Conservatives as abusing democracy
 
I think marginally if you view having the referendum in the first place as a mistake, given that it wasnt her mistake.

I think the argument that the country should be led by a Brexiter made some sense but the fact there are none to be seen speaks volumes and validates her position. If Cameron has stayed on all the Brexiters would still be buzzing around him strengthening their positions without having to take any responsibility for the mess.

(I am really looking forward to being able to turn that phrase "the mess Labour left us with" round onto the Tories now. From here on in the mess being dealt with is not anything left over from Labour.)

Truth enough.

I think you make an interesting point about the mess we find ourselves in but I'd say any such claims will simply be defended as democracy. It's an easy response "it was right to let the country decide". It'll largely depend on the quality of negotiations
 
I can see this logic but I am a little undecided how I think it will play out.

It seems to be the people on the verge of defecting to UKIP are northern Labour voters. Will people defect from the Tories to UKIP? I guess they might if they feel May will welch on Brexit, but as long as she can convince them she will deliver it - and she does seem to be making the right noises - the appeal of UKIP seems to have been neutered as far as Tories are concerned.

If I was May I might see it as an opportunity to annihilate Labour. That might be too tempting to turn down.
I'm on your side with that. Tories could increase their majority to near 100 if they play it right.
 
Maybe. But May should have her lack of democratic mandate brought up at every possible opportunity. With the attacks on short money and union funding every attempt should be made to paint the Conservatives as abusing democracy

This is where it's quite handy that the UK doesn't have a written constitution. Facility exists to 'make it up as you go along'. Flexible definition of democracy or which part of that democratic process you most favour at any particular point in time.
 
I think marginally if you view having the referendum in the first place as a mistake, given that it wasnt her mistake.

I think the argument that the country should be led by a Brexiter made some sense but the fact there are none to be seen speaks volumes and validates her position. If Cameron has stayed on all the Brexiters would still be buzzing around him strengthening their positions without having to take any responsibility for the mess.

(I am really looking forward to being able to turn that phrase "the mess Labour left us with" round onto the Tories now. From here on in the mess being dealt with is not anything left over from Labour.)
they will still find away to blame the opposition, politicians are incredible at finding ways to twist what happened to blame people to suit their ends
 
I can see this logic but I am a little undecided how I think it will play out.

It seems to be the people on the verge of defecting to UKIP are northern Labour voters. Will people defect from the Tories to UKIP? I guess they might if they feel May will welch on Brexit, but as long as she can convince them she will deliver it - and she does seem to be making the right noises - the appeal of UKIP seems to have been neutered as far as Tories are concerned.

If I was May I might see it as an opportunity to annihilate Labour. That might be too tempting to turn down.

Yes, it's interesting to speculate what the parts of this 52% Out vote comprise of. Forrin-hating UKippers or non-racist Establishment-kickers. The Con-Lab split in there as a simplified description. Also, Labour are doing quite a good job of their self-destruction on their own, tbf. (that's intended as a joke in the first instance)
 
I wonder if all the leavers banging on about democracy and the EU will have any issue with May becoming PM like this...