Thanks. Clearly, you handled the whole thing well and like an adult.
World Cup 2018 & 2022 bids
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Thanks. Clearly, you handled the whole thing well and like an adult.
But were these same people pissed off when Japan got it in 2002? They'd only qualified for their first ever World Cup in 1998, hardly world renowned then were they? Perhaps this will help establish Qatar as a force in Asian football, who knows?
Fair enough for people getting pissed off over bribing(something everyone seems to have readily accepted without a shred of proof btw), but it doesn't mean the World Cup will be a failure or rubbish which many are suggesting.
Everyone bidding for 2018 was from Europe, meaning the next world cup couldn't be in Europe.
You've gotten many reasons from many people on here and you've chosen two.
If I remove the bit in brackets then I am left with this as your question. Doesn't make sense.
I really haven't. I've gotten heat, homosexuality, alcohol and women's clothing.
Because Asian teams (except those 3) are pretty awful anyway, if they aren't even getting close to qualification, they really are dreadful. There is a reason they're ranked 113 in the world.
Might I add that the friendly against Paraguay, their one standout result in the last 18 months came in the middle of the European & S American season, I wonder what kind of side they fielded.
Fair enough.
Why will giving Russia and Qatar hosting rights of the world cup cause a backlash?
& the fact they are shite at football too.
Could be wrong but I think England and the USA were in for both. They agreed between them to just go for one each, in different years.
As I pointed out earlier, Japan were ranked 26th in the world when they were given the hosting rights, somewhat different to 113, no?
And the slavery problem, which you should be familiar with being from that part of the world.
I would have loved to have it in the US. I just think if we are guilty of the same things...better not to mention that point to discredit the opposition. Many countries have an issue with allowing people with contagious diseases.
By all means talk about their lack of
pedigree
facilities
entertainment
temperate weather
tourist attractions
experience
These are more real and legitimate issues for me than, HIV positive individuals not being allowed into the country.
I also don't think I was stopping you from expressing your opinion.
Yes they do have the cash to pull it off and I am sure all the surrounding countries will get involved and benefit.
The idea of building stadia and then donating them for free to other nations is ingenious - although remains to be seen how that would work in practice.
Well if they deliver the climate controlled stadia that they promise then the conditions could be more suitable then some of the matches in Japan (high humidity) and Mexico (heat and altitude). Doesnt need to be the problem that you make it out to be.
You should go and read the details of the bid as many of your concerns have been addressed already.
A. Bobadilla
D. Caniza 75'
P. da Silva 65'
J. Cáceres
A. Torres
E. Ledesma
C. Bonet
V. Cáceres 79'
R. Santa Cruz
D. Lopez
E. Benítez
Looks a strong team
Eh? Did you miss Fifa's own report?
USA, Japan, Australia & Korea are all much much more ready to host.
Why were they ranked 26th though? They'd only qualified for one previous World Cup where they lost all 3 games incidently, they can't have been that good can they?
I think it should have gone to Australia. You are also arguing against something that no longer exists, wrong as it was. We also used to prosecute gays, should I not talk about that, as well?
I have a different opinion than you about allowing nations with bad human rights situations have the wc. You don't. End of.
not sure about FIFA rules...but the first step should be for UEFA and CONMEBOL to form an association at the least if not a confederation within FIFA.
You expect all the fans to stay in the stadia all the time? How are they supposed to get to and from the stadia?
I stand corrected, but one shock win in 18 months of dreadful results doesn't change anything.
With UEFA and AFC countries ruled out for the 2026 World Cup, how is FIFA going to deny the USA? It will have been 32 years since Concacaf hosted the World cup and 16 at most for the next closest continent. Mexico won't be ready to bid for the World Cup or host it because it is currently bordering on a failed state. Canada can be no worse of a bid than Qatar while none of the Central American countries could put together a legitimate bid.
Conmebol and CAF will both be eligible, along with Oceania(New Zealand). I guess that would lead to possible bids from Argentina and...can't think of anyone else.
Conmebol and CAF will both be eligible, along with Oceania(New Zealand). I guess that would lead to possible bids from Argentina and...can't think of anyone else.
FFS man you make it sound like nobody comes to the middle east during the summer for a holiday! Dubai is booming during the summer and it's fecking hot! Of course they aren't expected to stay in the stadia the whole time, there will be plenty of things for them to do to have a good time.
I didn't say that it would, I said that I had a "really strong feeling" that it would.
My first reply regarding this subject and I would like to congratulate Russia and Qatar. I have tried to look objective of all bids and Russia/Qatar are as much competitive as the rest as far as I can see.
Russia is a huge country in development. If South-Africa can manage such a huge event then there is no reason to think that Russia can do the same 2018.
Qatar's bid is exciting, to say at least. They present new solutions regarding arena constructions and cooling-system. They will invest in technology research around this problem and this can in the future benefit the region and country's with similar heating problems.
It's easy to point out a corrupt FIFA and blame Blatter for everything but the truth is that every bidding country had the same opportunity to convince the members of FIFA. With or without bribe's.
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results"
Winston Churchill
Russia is a huge country in development. If South-Africa can manage such a huge event then there is no reason to think that Russia can do the same 2018.
Qatar's bid is exciting, to say at least. They present new solutions regarding arena constructions and cooling-system. They will invest in technology research around this problem and this can in the future benefit the region and country's with similar heating problems.
It's easy to point out a corrupt FIFA and blame Blatter for everything but the truth is that every bidding country had the same opportunity to convince the members of FIFA. With or without bribe's.
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results"
Winston Churchill
Careful with the words you throw around
Bluntly put but right. FIFA should be taking things like russias racism problems into account when electing a host for the major event of the world game. That they, and UEFA, don't is clear from the meagre fines handed out to federations when their crowds have shown racist behaviour.
Cultures deserve respect if they respect others rights. Racism and homophobia on a mass scale kind of put a spanner in the works.
What?
Did you even look at it?Transport - Medium risk for all 3, compared to Low risk for almost everything for the other 4.
Stadium construction, stadium operation are all listed.
Why would it? What reason for complaint would they have?
The US could host the World Cup tomorrow if it had to. There are no stadiums, hotels, or training facilities to build. The public transit system would be able to handle the influx of people with no problem along with the airports. I'm not sure how Qatar was nearly as prepared to host the World Cup as the US, Japan, or even Australia are given that we have, you know, actual stadiums built.
If Qatar can get it, perhaps Canada can too, they certainly fit the "poor team" criteria, but I'm not sure they're bad enough.
or perhaps New Zealand might get it, OFC is the only confederation never to host it, imagine how Australia will feel if that happens.
errrm my username says NEUTRAL, not yours mate.
I am not saying the Qatar World Cup will be a failure. But to think Blatter has not come out of this a lot wealthier than he was is like saying a pimp has not taken his cut from his whores for the day.
Exactly, Japan I might add can do it tomorrow if Fifa relax their rule on a 80k stadium for the final. The International Stadium Yokohama only holds 72k.
All the expats leave Dubai in the summer. Who would choose 50 degree heat especially when there is nothing else to do as is the case in Qatar?
They weren't that great, but still one of the best teams in Asia for years (check their Asian Cup record), unlike Qatar.
You just don't understand gut feeling do you.
So you accept that the conditions could be suitable for football? Because that was your issue before and now you are talking about a different issue - that of the fans.
They will get to and from the stadia in air conditioned buses and trains - they will hang out in a/c fan zones, stay in a/c hotels and eat in a/c restaurants - get the picture?
All your concerns have already been answered - you just need to read the details of the bid.
Good financial result for FIFA but poor if unsurprising choices for 2018 and 2022. Who can't enter the bidding for the next 2?