World Cup Qualifiers | October 2017 | Play off draw on Tuesday

Feck no play off, direct qualification doesn't taste as good. Now that we don't go to the play off, Bosnia misses it it :lol:

Agreed, France and Portugal are supposed to struggle during qualifiers. That's how football has been created.
 
Robben walking with his kids on the field.. he is retiring from our national team. Lost our last world class player :(

:( He deserved better. Still an amazing international career.
 
There would be no proper World Cup without the champions of Europe... :)

5th World Cup finals in a row :drool: now let's hope for an easier draw than the last 2 World Cups
 
Robben walking with his kids on the field.. he is retiring from our national team. Lost our last world class player :(
Should have won the WC in '14. One of the most unbelieveable individual WC tournaments ever
 
Robben is by far the best Dutch player of a generation which made a World Cup final. How close does he get to the all time Dutch XI?

I'd go for:



Reckon there are plenty who would call for Gullit or Seedorf over Bergkamp or Robben to give more balance in midfield but feck it - with the ball playing ability of those defenders I'd want both of them up front!
 
Robben is by far the best Dutch player of a generation which made a World Cup final. How close does he get to the all time Dutch XI?

I'd go for:



Reckon there are plenty who would call for Gullit or Seedorf over Bergkamp or Robben to give more balance in midfield but feck it - with the ball playing ability of those defenders I'd want both of them up front!

No Makele?
 
Robben is by far the best Dutch player of a generation which made a World Cup final. How close does he get to the all time Dutch XI?

I'd go for:



Reckon there are plenty who would call for Gullit or Seedorf over Bergkamp or Robben to give more balance in midfield but feck it - with the ball playing ability of those defenders I'd want both of them up front!

Jesus that teams depressing compared to the dross they got now.

You associate Holland with skilful flair players and deadly finishers. They have neither.
 
Fernando Santos "No promises for the WC" :( i expected another Santos special prediction
 
Heard that Memphis threw his jersey for fans and they threw it back..
My friend might be joking though
 
Tricky teams to get. Italy, Switzerland, Denmark and Croatia are all strong teams at roughly the same level. I would probably prefer Switzerland right now. They have the least scary individual players and not fantastic form.

Italy don't look that great right now although you still would want to avoid them no doubt.
 
Feel sorry for Robben to end his international career with such a disappointment. Netherlands are pretty much more and more fecked for the coming years now.
 
Was having this discussion with a friend of mine the other day about how many footballing legends were at those tournaments between 2000 and 2006 compared to now.

Italy had Totti, Maldini, Buffon, Inzaghi, Nesta, Del Piero, Cannavaro, Pirlo and Gattuso.

England had Rooney, Beckham, Scholes, Terry, Ferdinand, Neville, Cole, Gerrard, Lampard and Owen.

Brazil had Cafu, Carlos, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Kaka, Juninho, Lucio

France had Henry, Thuram, Trezeguet, Zidane, Ribéry.

I don’t think any national team comes close in terms of star power to those sides and I was too lazy to list all the greats from Holland (already covered earlier in the thread), Portugal etc.

International football has declined massively in the last ten years.
I don't think it has declined, if anything it has become more competitive with the rise of other nations. Nowadays every other nation has some top player with them . But I agree I miss the 2000 to 2006 era too.
 
Portugal is quite clearly the better team. And Santos is quite possibly the Diego Simeone of NT managers. One of the most underrated managers around. Easily top 10.
He took Greece to the quarters in Euro 2012 and last 16 in WC 2014, even if I don't like his concept of football.
 
Robben is by far the best Dutch player of a generation which made a World Cup final. How close does he get to the all time Dutch XI?

I'd go for:



Reckon there are plenty who would call for Gullit or Seedorf over Bergkamp or Robben to give more balance in midfield but feck it - with the ball playing ability of those defenders I'd want both of them up front!
Drop Bergkamp, push Cruyff up, play Keizer left?

They've had some players though? ..... "had" being the operative word.
 
Robben is by far the best Dutch player of a generation which made a World Cup final. How close does he get to the all time Dutch XI?

I'd go for:



Reckon there are plenty who would call for Gullit or Seedorf over Bergkamp or Robben to give more balance in midfield but feck it - with the ball playing ability of those defenders I'd want both of them up front!
Why the feck did you chose a back 5 with de Boer and Suurbier, benching Gullit, Neeskens etc? Play 3 at the back, Krol and Stam with their experience as covering CBs, Koeman/Rijkaard as a proven duo (1988)