World Cup Qualifiers | October 2017 | Play off draw on Tuesday

No Vidal playing for Chile anymore either - he wanted to resign if Chile does not make the World Cup - and his twitter and instagram message read like he does that.
 
Pot 1 for the World Cup

Russia
Germany
Brazil
Portugal
Argentina
Belgium
Poland
France
 
Actually it is not so strange some NBA players do like football (soccer), while a lot of football players in Europe do like NBA, a lot of Spanish players followed Gasol and all that.

FIFA is often played in NBA locker rooms. Because of the influence of the foreign players and the fact that end of the bench players probably spent some time playing in Europe they are usually pretty interested.
 
I can see the funny side now.

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I don´t think the future looks that bad for the USA. You hear some good stuff about the youth academies like in Dallas. With Brooks - McKennie - Pulisic - Wood they have a great young axis to build around. They always have a decent goalkeeper somewhere.

Concerned about the keeper spot. There isn't a talent out there that makes me think "he's the guy for two WC cycles" nor one that gives me some confirmation in his ability to win matches. Hopefully, Horvath continues to develop in Europe.
 
We have thousands of Haitians, Colombians and Venezuelans arriving everyday. For the same money you hire two or three of them instead of one chilean. The level of crime have escalated exponentially. We never had murders at the numbers we are seeing now. Colombian gangs have taken over complete areas, etc.
Didn't know that, reality is be it on the USA, Europe or South America no doubt the right wingers will exploit that.
Bachelet is no better anyway... she is like Clinton. Now she sails happy into the horizon (U.N. job).

Chile always looks good on the outside because of our macroeconomic numbers, but wealth distribution is in african levels. 70% of the productive land belong to the top 1%, for example.
Pinochet and the Chicago Boys left a beatifull legacy allright, I followed some of that shit here in Portugal with the Troika, massive unemployment, poverty, better not talk about Greece.
Anyway, i don't rate Pizzi. He is an ok coach, but when you have world class players like Vidal and Sanchez, you need a world class coach.
Actually I am not surprised with the downgrade, it was the perfect storm, inferior to Sampaoli and a aging squad.
Bielsa was the one who created our game style, he had us playing the best football, and he resigned leaving us in limbo.
I Like Bielsa, but he is having a hard time in Lille, romantic ideas, but mentally unstable imo, you cannot expect him to stay much long in a project.
 
? Last two MLS expansions have been good, Atlanta spectacular.

You'll have to excuse me. I'm in a pissy mood. More to do with personal stress.

I think the expansions are good for the MLS as an organization. But lumping it all in, mainly the US soccer fed or whatever (is it all tied together even? Idk) I think the time, money and effort has been misdirected. Not making the WC is an enormous loss and sets us back on this vision of competing. The MLS isn't changing that when those same geriatric super stars we over pay for come and talk down the quality of the league.
 
http://soccer.nbcsports.com/2017/10/10/three-things-from-the-usmnts-historic-failure-in-trinidad/


Three things from the USMNT’s historic failure in Trinidad

The United States failed in a major way on Tuesday, and that’s still somehow sugarcoating its 2-1 loss in Trinidad and Tobago.

For the first time in nearly 30 years, the Americans will not be plying their trade at a World Cup.

Yup.

Bruce Arena, you played yourself

The USMNT manager preached squad rotation last month in an embarrassing two-match stretch that saw the Americans take just one point.

So what does he do following an exceptionally emotional 4-0 home win over Panama? Puts the same exact lineup out there.

The Yanks looked dazed and listless for the most part, aside from Jozy Altidore dropping deep into the midfield to help, well, whoever else was supposed to be there with Michael Bradley and some hard running from Paul Arriola and DeAndre Yedlin (I believe Jorge Villafana had a tackle in there, too).

Arena then doubled down on his domestic philosophy bringing on Clint Dempsey, Kellyn Acosta, and Benny Feilhaber as substitutes. Premier League mainstay Geoff Cameron was left on the bench for 180 minutes. Nevermind leaving international caliber players like Fabian Johnson, Timmy Chandler, and even Danny Williams in the wilderness.

Adding to the embarrassment were Arena’s postgame comments, in which he seemed to imply he had better players he would’ve used in the future.

“If we had qualified for the World Cup, there needed to be a number of changes for the World Cup roster.”

In its hour of need, U.S. Soccer turned to its domestic heroes. And they failed.

But so did the players

Find a player who stood out on Tuesday.

I’m still waiting.

Yes, Pulisic scored a great goal. And both DeAndre Yedlin, Jozy Altidore, and Bobby Wood ran their socks off. Clint Dempsey provided an injection of fury and hit the post as a substitute.

But they needed far more than that and, as they had in every road Hex match and several home ones, showed an entitlement and lack of urgency that belied their status as the third- and later fifth-place team in CONCACAF.

Michael Bradley will probably not play at another World Cup. USMNT legends Clint Dempsey, Tim Howard, and Geoff Cameron almost certainly will not.

And the guys Arena did use?

“Our center backs were not confident with the ball, and really we were playing eight against 10 in the first half. Our forwards were not able to hold the ball. We didn’t get Pulisic into the game. We played poorly.”

To be fair, it wasn’t both center backs, rather Omar Gonzalez. Arena’s former LA Galaxy charge scored an own goal and nearly gave a penalty kick away moments later.

Overhaul or nothing

This one is short and sweet: Arena was almost certainly not going to manage beyond the World Cup in Russia, but powerful president Sunil Gulati was almost certain to go onward. I’m not sure there are enough American Outlaws and moneymen on Earth to back that move now.
 
FIFA is often played in NBA locker rooms. Because of the influence of the foreign players and the fact that end of the bench players probably spent some time playing in Europe they are usually pretty interested.
Our under 21 Portugal manager, Rui Jorge, when he played at my club, 15 years ago, he spent the night awake to watch NBA games, even used to sent messages to comentators, I doubt his manager at the time liked that.

Not to mention the Balcanic players, Croatia, Serbia or Greece, they usually like the 2 sports, not surprised at all, even Jorge Jesus our coach, he says he studied how NBA teams and Handball teams worked in zonal defensive movements to apply in football.
 
You'll have to excuse me. I'm in a pissy mood. More to do with personal stress.

I think the expansions are good for the MLS as an organization. But lumping it all in, mainly the US soccer fed or whatever (is it all tied together even? Idk) I think the time, money and effort has been misdirected. Not making the WC is an enormous loss and sets us back on this vision of competing. The MLS isn't changing that when those same geriatric super stars we over pay for come and talk down the quality of the league.

I think teams have started to change their approach, and the results of Atlanta show that it is better to go for young and hungry up-and-coming players than big stars. But you really need to look at the players individually. There are plenty of designated players that work their arses off.

I question whether the salary cap/designated player system is the best going forward, cause when the youth does come through and they get shitty average wages, they´ll be off to Europe in no time. The salary cap system works in the other sports, cause the USA pays the most. Football is different (for now).
 
I think teams have started to change their approach, and the results of Atlanta show that it is better to go for young and hungry up-and-coming players than big stars. But you really need to look at the players individually. There are plenty of designated players that work their arses off.

I question whether the salary cap/designated player system is the best going forward, cause when the youth does come through and they get shitty average wages, they´ll be off to Europe in no time. The salary cap system works in the other sports, cause the USA pays the most. Football is different (for now).

We will not have much change there. We are bootlickers in this county. They will not attempt anything that could lose the owners' money.
 
We will not have much change there. We are bootlickers in this county. They will not attempt anything that could lose the owners' money.

This.
A joke. No consequence for poor long term investment as no concept of relegation like in any normal league
 
NZ's record against South American teams

1982 4-0 loss v Brazil 1982 WC
1995 3-1 away loss to Chile
1995 3-2 away loss to Paraguay
1995 7-0 away loss to Uruguay
1995 2-2 away draw Uruguay
1998 0-0 home draw with Chile
1999 2-0 loss to Brazil Confeds Cup
2003 3-1 loss to Columbia Confeds Cup
2006 4-1 away loss to Chile
2006 1-0 away loss to Chile
2006 4-0 away loss to Brazil
2007 5-0 away loss to Venezuela
2010 0-0 draw with Paraguay 2010 WC
2012 2-0 home loss to Paraguay.


14 games, 0 wins, 2 draws and 11 losses. Goals for 7, Goals against 40
 
Our under 21 Portugal manager, Rui Jorge, when he played at my club, 15 years ago, he spent the night awake to watch NBA games, even used to sent messages to comentators, I doubt his manager at the time liked that.

Not to mention the Balcanic players, Croatia, Serbia or Greece, they usually like the 2 sports, not surprised at all, even Jorge Jesus our coach, he says he studied how NBA teams and Handball teams worked in zonal defensive movements to apply in football.

And I remember reading that Leonardo Jardim was a handball coach.
 
I'm really upset, not just because the USA didn't make it, but also because of the lack of urgency. Bad performance!
 
Used to follow sometimes CNN here in Portugal at night, but I quit, don't know how you guys there can stay calm with the shitshow in the Media everynight. :lol: And believe me if we do have incompetent polititians here too. :lol:
As big of a deal as the media makes (and perhaps rightly so) of Trump’s various inadequacies, behavioral and political, everyday life hasn’t changed for the bulk of Americans — Trump has accomplished basically nothing on his agenda. Family, jobs, hobbies, etc. all come before breathlessly tuning into CNN to see what inane comment he made today, you know?
 
You'll have to excuse me. I'm in a pissy mood. More to do with personal stress.

I think the expansions are good for the MLS as an organization. But lumping it all in, mainly the US soccer fed or whatever (is it all tied together even? Idk) I think the time, money and effort has been misdirected. Not making the WC is an enormous loss and sets us back on this vision of competing. The MLS isn't changing that when those same geriatric super stars we over pay for come and talk down the quality of the league.
The only way that the MLS will really reach the requisite level is if they do away with the salary cap and institute relegation. Currently though, the league is run like a Ponzi scheme (leeching off new owners’ fees) and no extant clubs wants to risk going down when they can pay garbage wages and stay top flight. The USF b€n£fit$ from their MLS favoritism (NASL even sued them), so they don’t do anything to break the hierarchyZ

That said, the USF makes the MLS look incredibly well run. The hirings, youth system structuring, and roster selection
have been bizarre at best (and more accurately, calamitous).
 
At work watching the highlights and Panama's first goal never went in though it should have been a pen.
 
I do not think that is so surprising. Their players played tournaments all of the recent summer breaks until late stages - most play in Europe so they have the travelling, too - and they aren't 22 anymore. Never had full preparations in the summer.

I remember that the teams that played in the last ConfedCup all struggled during the World Cup - that is why e.g. Germany played rested their normal players...

Good point, but this could have been the last world cup for most of these players, I doubt even Alexis will be around in the NT in 2022. Germany has such a good management, they used that tournament to give young prospects experience and now they likely will have a better world cup than euro 2016...
 
This is bad news for Arsenal. At least he had the WC incentive keeping him focused (e.g. see Coutinho).

Doubt it. He has been playing well for Arsenal. Better than Ozil for example. He knows if he plays bad he will have less offers.
 
Right now U.S. football is in a troubled state when it comes to young players. Even though there are millions of youths playing on clubs and academies, there is a new focus on bringing in and sponsoring internationals. The number one high school team in the nation has maybe one or two Americans starting on their team. Other schools as well as academies are following suit.
The powers that run the national team have to change something. The recruiting process for American players wanting to play in college is also getting harder. I've talked to a few coaches who have told me that even if a kid does well at their ID camps that there are a lot of foriegners just waiting to be brought in instead.
Big issues
 
The level is higher in Uefa Champions League, particularly on the knockout stages, but nothing gives me more emotion than watching my country, only sometimes my club.

No way. Club Over country everyday
 
Pot 1 for the World Cup

Russia
Germany
Brazil
Portugal
Argentina
Belgium
Poland
France
Bye the way the other 3 pots will be based on ranking position and not on location like in 2014.

Looking at the potential seeding this seems to be a much more balanced system actually and reduced the chances of a group of death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_seeding

a group like

Germany
Spain/Italy
Colombia/Uruguay
Mexico

is not possible with the new system