Sack one idiot just to replace him with Zidane. Seems like Madrid like their freefall as well.
Zidane sack watch?
Just spotted these on the first page. To be honest I thought the exact same thing when it was announced. Proved us all wrong!
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Just spotted these on the first page. To be honest I thought the exact same thing when it was announced. Proved us all wrong!
That's true. So why do you say he'd be shite then? It's like saying Messi would be shite if playing for Stoke.Ah ok, so someone else said it must be true, sure.
Oh ffs, tons of manager have had the best team and failed to deliver all the time in the CL. Pep at Bayern, Sir Alex, Carlo at Real, Jose, the list in endless. Does he have the best squad. Yes, yes he does. It takes a great manager to win at great squads. Only stupid people imagine you can walk in and win the league CL like Zidane, Pep have done.
Many managers have tried to get rid of that Galactico drama and he's come along and done it without much fuss.
To integrate a couple of the kids is smart work as well though. I like the work he's done so far to be honest.
Enrique, Pep, Ancelotti, Zizou
He's proven me wrong, what a job he's done. I'd be interested to see how he does long term though, see if he can keep Madrid at the top for 20 years like Fergie did. That's if he stays at Madrid of course.
In my defence I was probably drunk
He actually deserves a lot of credit. Many thought he would fail along with a perception he would be obsessed with playing beautiful football. He's very tactically adept and flexible and understands the need for balance. He's managed to organise a defence capable of sitting back as well as playing on the front foot, combined with managing egos and using the squad well.
The only thing he's proved for me is that he is not a clueless manager. He's inherited the best squad in the world at a super club, Guardiola managed to win the sextuple when he had that, but now he has had an average season at City where there is a more even playing field.
Luis Enrique won the treble when he inherited one of the best teams in the world at a super club. When he didnt have that at Roma and Celta he was an average manager.
He has not faced any tests in his career yet, I want to see what he will do long term at Real or when he moves to another club that isnt so powerful.
Luis Enrique won the treble when he inherited one of the best teams in the world at a super club. When he didnt have that at Roma and Celta he was an average manager.
He has not faced any tests in his career yet, I want to see what he will do long term at Real or when he moves to another club that isnt so powerful.
Gotta like that he's consistently playing Casemiro as a holding mid like a sensible team would, while Perez is probably weekly begging him to try Moderic and Bale as a double pivot.
A bit different with Barca, though. That team was something else. They were managed by some 'nobodies' after Pep but still winning important stuff without much sweat. Ancelotti, Benitez, and Mou couldn't achieved what Zidane has done at Madrid so far.
Remember when Beckham had to play as their DM because they sold Makelele and did not replace him?
Exactly!
It's Madrid mate, no such thing as 'long term'. If he fails to retain the CL next year he'll probably get the chop. What would be interesting to see is how well will he do in his next coaching gig.
Barely any Real Madrid coach lasts more than three years. No matter how successful he is, I can't see him bucking the trend.
I can see him taking over at Juve once he leaves Madrid.
He may last longer than the others. He is after all a club legend and seems to get on great with Perez and Ronaldo.
This isn't England. Coaches having "their" players isn't a thing at Real Madrid.
Achievements do not exist in a vacuum, Zidane is facing a Barcelona team that is reliant on Messi because Xavi and Iniesta have lost their powers. Last year Madrid had a champions league run that was very easy and this year they did not deserve to be in the final but were gifted the game against bayern by the referees. It is obvious that he is facing easier conditions because Barcelona have been losing games they would never lose both in the league and Champions league.
Mourinho especially was under different circumstances to Zidane, because he was facing off against one of the best sides ever. Mourinho's tenure at Madrid is more impressive because he came to the club in worse circumstances facing tougher conditions.
It is for certain that Zidane is a competent manager...but whether he is a top class manager is still not decided for me. He must prove it somewhere else or long term at madrid if thats possible.
Winning one Champions League can be lucky. Winning two back-to-back was, before today, impossible. The comparison with Di Matteo is invalid.
I'm sure he's desperate to apply for the Stoke job so he can prove his credentials to nobodies on the internet.
I think Zidane is developing some sort of cult following like Pep...just a reminder that you are a nobody defending Zidane. Do you think he'll pat you on the back for having his back against the nobodies on the internet?
I have no inclination to believe that my view of Zidane will have any effect on him because i am irrelevant in the world of football. Perhaps you think you are relevant since you want to point out that i am a nobody?
He's won three major titles, Mou won one. Mou joined a team that had just reached 92 points, they were hardly a shambles.
Mou was up against a better Barca team is his point. Which is true. Barca have a better forward line now than they did back then. But they had a better team back then.
But nobody should discredit the job Zidane has done though. Yeah he's had a great squad, but so have other managers and they accomplished nothing like he has done in the last 12 months.
I'm super happy for how the season has ended and very glad for the team having accomplished the League and UCL under him. I started supporting Real Madrid when the galacticos nonsense began and he has been my favorite player ever since. Now we have won back to back UCL and a legue with him as a manager and he also was won one as Ancelotti's assistant so if he was already a legend for Real Madrid his status in the club has gone beyond that and I feel he's the embodiment of Real Madrid's greatness.
I'm so happy right now I don't feel botherd by people questioning his merits as a manager; as I think he's the perfect manager for us and Real Madrid is the perfect team to him. I also wonder how will he do at a different team and after a very short, and yet successful career, it's already very hard for him to surpass what he has already accomplished with Real Madrid so is very likely he can't do better elsewhere (he would need to win 3 UCL cups in a row and some leagues along the way lol).
However he deserves a lot of credit for his man managerial skills and integrating a bunch of youth players into a team full of stars. Everyone is talking about how Real Madrid already had a great squad but that wasn't the narrative before he took the job and in this season we were carried a lot of games by the likes of Lucas Vázquez, Asensio, Nacho, etc. They might be rated now but they weren't when he took the job and he was questioned plenty of times by them too much trust and responsibility and even I was wondering if it was a good idea to put them ahead of James in some games. He trusted in our younger players and they responded and that's what made our squad stronger as everyone was performing to the point of being able to bench Bale and having the likes of James and Pepe not even making to the bench. The team has been full of confidence this final months and everyone (at least most of our players) feels like an important part of the team.
He also played a big part in managing Ronaldo to be at his best in the most crucial part of the season and everyone seems to respect him and trust him and now we feel more like a team rather than a collection of superstars.
I'm so happy right now I don't feel botherd by people questioning his merits as a manager; as I think he's the perfect manager for us and Real Madrid is the perfect team to him. I also wonder how will he do at a different team and after a very short, and yet successful career, it's already very hard for him to surpass what he has already accomplished with Real Madrid so is very likely he can't do better elsewhere (he would need to win 3 UCL cups in a row and some leagues along the way lol).
However he deserves a lot of credit for his man managerial skills and integrating a bunch of youth players into a team full of stars. Everyone is talking about how Real Madrid already had a great squad but that wasn't the narrative before he took the job and in this season we were carried a lot of games by the likes of Lucas Vázquez, Asensio, Nacho, etc. They might be rated now but they weren't when he took the job and he was questioned plenty of times by them too much trust and responsibility and even I was wondering if it was a good idea to put them ahead of James in some games. He trusted in our younger players and they responded and that's what made our squad stronger as everyone was performing to the point of being able to bench Bale and having the likes of James and Pepe not even making to the bench. The team has been full of confidence this final months and everyone (at least most of our players) feels like an important part of the team.
He also played a big part in managing Ronaldo to be at his best in the most crucial part of the season and everyone seems to respect him and trust him and now we feel more like a team rather than a collection of superstars.
It's a completely different skill set managing barca/ madrid compared to anywhere else... hes done brilliantly of course but there's no saying how he would do anywhere else.
He's done a superb job. Fair play to him.
Thank feck Real won. They were rewarded for playing some good attacking football.
I'm not defending Zidane. I don't really have strong feelings about him one way or another.
We're all nobodies on the internet but I'm not asking a highly successful coach to prove himself before I make a judgement on him as if my opinion means anything.
Well done, impressive feat, I guess he's still true to what he've said and hinted long before, the one interview which he mentioned Makelele as the key-est player, the engine of the team. Zidane doesn't play all galacticos and instead play players that would make a functional team, and he added that with youth too, good balance there. In addition, he handled the press well and manage the players in a tough yet gentleman kind of ways. Dropping that many galacticos is very impressive, having a good backing by the Real president helps a lot tbf.
He's achieved someone no one else have ever achieved in his second season! He also won the league as well in his first full season!
Yes his squad was spectacular but that could be said about most RM squads over the years.
Zidane's brilliance on the field was unquestionable and it seems he can transfer that to the dug out.
He might dominate for quite a few years yet!
Yes his squad was spectacular but that could be said about most RM squads over the years.
Zidane's brilliance on the field was unquestionable and it seems he can transfer that to the dug out.
He might dominate for quite a few years yet!
Peptoabysmal, sorry.
He has only 2 years experience of managing the B team before this. I am happy we landed Mourinho, but if we hadn't giving it to Giggs wouldn't have been a bad option.
Fair play to him. But it's still down to Real having some amazing players. Certainly, Zidane makes them play as a group and not a bunch of individuals.
Good post mate. Agree with everything.
Yeah, I wanted to praise Zidane too. As mentioned I think RM and Zidane are perfect for each other. It's a different beast all together being manager from RM and not many people, how tactically genius they may be, can handle this job. And he's done great managing all the egos.
How Zidane would fare when coaching f.e Stoke seems irrelevant to me, because I don't think he will go on a long coaching carreer. I don't see him coaching in England or Germany for example. I think he'll ride out the RM-wave and then perhaps already the France NT job?
I could see him go for PSG maybe, or otherwise do the Algerian job for fun, but thats about it?
Do you guys think he'll ever take over Chelsea f.e when he gets the boot at Real?
How Zidane would fare when coaching f.e Stoke seems irrelevant to me, because I don't think he will go on a long coaching carreer. I don't see him coaching in England or Germany for example. I think he'll ride out the RM-wave and then perhaps already the France NT job?
I could see him go for PSG maybe, or otherwise do the Algerian job for fun, but thats about it?
Do you guys think he'll ever take over Chelsea f.e when he gets the boot at Real?