Zinedine Zidane | Resigns

Ramshock said:
If Mourinho leaves id decide at the time. I dont want JM to leave and I think ZZ deserves more time at that circus of a club considering what he has done for them.
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As I said, most of us want him to give him a chance since he's a club legend but it's hard when he keeps repeating the same mistakes and doesn't try anything else. What was the definition of insanity according to Einstein?

Edit: well, Zidane right now in press conference: "Nothing has to change". Bravo!
 
Ridge Racer said:
As I said, most of us want him to give him a chance since he's a club legend but it's hard when he keeps repeating the same mistakes and doesn't try anything else. What was the definition of insanity according to Einstein?

Edit: well, Zidane right now in press conference: "Nothing has to change". Bravo!
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Now, i like a good overreaction as much as any madridista, but Zidane deserves to be judged in May. He's Zinedine Zidane
 
peridigm said:
Give it to Giggsy!

In all seriousness, who would want that job. If Madrid want to create another dynasty, they need rid of Perez first.
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Perez just got incredible fortunate in these last couple of years

It's like he's playing football manager and just mixing and matching everything

It has all come together by a big fluke with the sacking of Benitez and appointing Zidane temporarily only to turn out into a huge unseen success
 
cyberman said:
Casemiro has become a problem, he acts like a balance for an on fire Modric and Kroos but when they're off form he struggles to add anything special to the side.
You simply couldn't dribbble past him last year but now there's gaps all over the place. He has more to cover and he's struggling to adapt.
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He was always a link in the chain, a strong one but Modric's decline in the next years will make Casemiro and Real think about changing their midfield formula.

They were able to swap from the Khedira-Alonso-Ozil to the actual one thanks to the signing of Modric who took his time but god he ended up ruling there, the problem now is that Modric wasn't only a brilliant offensive player, he was also a great defender, I remember him shining that way vs Barcelona or Atletico in some games.

But now, how do you transition from a midfield trio like that, to something similar while having to keep Kroos and Casemiro playing?. Modric was like a merge of Kovacic and Isco, when he's out of his peak or his legs start waning maybe you can put either of them on a 433 replacing him but the team will hurt from their lack of dimension, a double DM with Casemiro and Llorente (or even Kroos) seems kind of a waste and would give Isco a huge burden or being a 10 in a era were 10's are not having much of an impact, best option could be a 442 with Casemiro as DM, Kroos and Ceballos/Kovacic in the midfield and Isco as a 10 or "false 9" with Ronaldo and another cut inside man on the right, but that means that you rely on Bale to play consistent minutes and to get rid of Benzema, who's been playing in that Isco role.

Going to be hard replacing Luka, as hard as Ronaldo, and not really Real's fault, they signed quality midfielders but there's no one in the world like him yet, thinking that any of their youngsters can replace him is like saying Asensio is the heir of Ronaldo, a nice story to run but totally out of touch with reality. His decline and eventual exit from Madrid can have the same impact on them of what Xavi was to Barcelona
 
Zidane might get sacked if they end this year in 5th place, especially having finished 2nd in their CL group.
 
Guardiola will never be a Real Madrid manager. Thats a certain thing because he is not just the biggest coach in Barcelona history, he is Barca through and through.. Funny thing is that fact didnt stop Florentino Perez to try to sound out the possibility in Nov 2015 when his representatives talked to Guardiola if he wants to replace Benitez! Pep said "No" obviously but the whole idea of Guardiola - manager of Real is unrealistic and absurd.
Bringing in a Guardiola type of manager is more possible if Perez wants to go in that direction.. Sarri and Tuchel are options.. And dont forget that certain Luis Enrique who was Real Madrid player way back in the day is available also..
 
giorno said:
Depends. For smaller clubs who are likely to have a team made up of average players, the manager. Burnley are better than Swansea because Dyche is better than Clement. For top clubs, those that aim to win trophies, it's the players. It's not even a question
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Do you think Zidane can be a successful manager whilst managing a team without superstars. Again not taking a shot at his achievements but somewhere feel he lacks the tactical know how. Anyways could he wrong and he could do really well. One thing he surely is great as in his man management.
 
PepG said:
Guardiola will never be a Real Madrid manager. Thats a certain thing because he is not just the biggest coach in Barcelona history, he is Barca through and through.. Funny thing is that fact didnt stop Florentino Perez to try to sound out the possibility in Nov 2015 when his representatives talked to Guardiola if he wants to replace Benitez! Pep said "No" obviously but the whole idea of Guardiola - manager of Real is unrealistic and absurd.
Bringing in a Guardiola type of manager is more possible if Perez wants to go in that direction.. Sarri and Tuchel are options.. And dont forget that certain Luis Enrique who was Real Madrid player way back in the day is available also..
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Luis Enrique is more Barcelona through and through than Guardiola imo, Guardiola's loyal approach is more in the like of a weasel compared to Lucho, who was at Real but left spurned from there. The way fans at Santiago Bernabeu reacted everytime he was subbed on in the clasicos still makes my race heart, Guardiola never had that fear or hated factor in Madrid.



In a way, Zidane was the same for Barcelona, maybe not a Madridista since a kid, but never liked in Barcelona, and hard to figure him as a coach here
 
AshRK said:
Do you think Zidane can be a successful manager whilst managing a team without superstars. Again not taking a shot at his achievements but somewhere feel he lacks the tactical know how. Anyways could he wrong and he could do really well. One thing he surely is great as in his man management.
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I don't think it matters. I don't think he's ever going to manage a team like that
 
giorno said:
I don't think it matters. I don't think he's ever going to manage a team like that
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Maybe I should have been clear. When I say team without superstars I did not mean a lower lever club. I meant an Arsenal or even Manchester United or Juve where he would not have Ronaldo saving matches for him.
 
Title should be changed to sack-watch. Already underperforming, losing 3-0 at home to Barca. With the way Madrid are run it could legit be any day now.
 
The Sun reporting that Conte wants the Real job and Perez admires him.

Obviously not going to happen because the Sun reported it, but it is certainly an interesting prospect to consider. Would Conte be able to handle the pressure? I am not sure his style suits the taste of Madrid fans. Of course, he will probably have an easier time in the transfer market.
 
SalfordRed18 said:
Title should be changed to sack-watch. Already underperforming, losing 3-0 at home to Barca. With the way Madrid are run it could legit be any day now.
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Think it actually started like that. From this thread;

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Conte or Jardim I would go for. But they should spend some money in Jan to replace the players they let go in the summer and give Zidane the chance to turn it round. If he doesn't want to spend the money, sod him, buy the players anyway, you're Real Madrid!
 
AshRK said:
Maybe I should have been clear. When I say team without superstars I did not mean a lower lever club. I meant an Arsenal or even Manchester United or Juve where he would not have Ronaldo saving matches for him.
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Probably. We may think it is man management, but the man has done what Pep could not, and will probably do it one more time, if they land Neymar. The squad has had massive injuries and I think he will stay in the job for atleast another year. Perez may be bathound crazy, but firstly no great manager is available, secondly by attacking / sacking Zizou Perez or Calderon or anyone else won't get far. I think his exit if and when it happens will be a return to the DoF role.
 
When you've won back-to-back Champions Leagues, you're allowed to have an off-season. Sir Alex had those when he'd rebuild the squad.
 
One question: You will sack Mourinho, when you will not win one of the big three title?
 
AshRK said:
Maybe I should have been clear. When I say team without superstars I did not mean a lower lever club. I meant an Arsenal or even Manchester United or Juve where he would not have Ronaldo saving matches for him.
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He doesn't have Cristiano "saving" matches for him. Closer thing to that was the first leg in Munich. As for how he'd do at those clubs, he'd do well because they have great players. He's not some clueless moron who's getting results in spite of himself...in truth not even Luis Enrique was like that, and he tried, real hard, to be the clueless moron trying to sabotage a great team
 
Harry190 said:
When you've won back-to-back Champions Leagues, you're allowed to have an off-season. Sir Alex had those when he'd rebuild the squad.
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That's not how Madrid works. Quite few Madrid coaches left/fired despite achieving more in some seasons than SAF.

This is akward situation Madrid put themselves in again. ZZ wouldn't be sacked at numerous clubs. However, clearly this is way below the standard they set. Giving ZZ may create precedent and lower their standard for long run which ain't sit well the their culture.
 
ti vu said:
That's not how Madrid works. Quite few Madrid coaches left/fired despite achieving more in some seasons than SAF.

This is akward situation Madrid put themselves in again. ZZ wouldn't be sacked at numerous clubs. However, clearly this is way below the standard they set. Giving ZZ may create precedent and lower their standard for long run which ain't sit well the their culture.
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Most teams aren't like Real Madrid, with world beaters in every position and guys like Isco warming the bench, its only natural that the manager is hold to higher standards with that kind of resources.

If you have to field Moses at RB or depend on Fellaini to win games then obviously no one would sack you after winning UCL titles in a row with squads like those, but that's not the case in Real Madrid
 
Ishdalar said:
Most teams aren't like Real Madrid, with world beaters in every position and guys like Isco warming the bench, its only natural that the manager is hold to higher standards with that kind of resources.

If you have to field Moses at RB or depend on Fellaini to win games then obviously no one would sack you after winning UCL titles in a row with squads like those, but that's not the case in Real Madrid
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TBF Isco has been underwhelming for a while now. Justified decisions. Kroos, Modric ain't exact at their best either. Ronaldo clearly away from from his best. Madrid has an expensive crock in Bale who plays less each following season. Benzema being Benzema and even him is getting worse. Madrid defense is nothing much to talk about in pure defensive perspective. Without the midfield and front line doing their job, I don't think anyone can expect much from them. So basically they sound like a team who need a fresh blood which they didn't do well in transfer to get in ready made quality (their way of doing thing). The young player signings are good but it ain't Madrid way of doing business. So in the end, the way Madrid runs, they would just point their finger at their head coach again, which quite hard to see ZZ survive despite unprecedented achievement.
 
He shouldn't be sacked, but in modern football when teams go through this phase players tend to stop responding and just wait for the inevitable sacking. There're no invincible managers like fergie anymore.
 
He definitely deserves the chance to rebuild considering what he's done with them. On the other hand I can see the logic in letting him go in that the team needs a freshen up and while he played his role of patriarch managing the chemistry of the egos, the board might decide to back a manager who has proven they can rebuild a squad.
 
Any other club, you'd be confident he wasn't going anywhere.
Not Madrid though.
 
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