shit's kicking off across the country then?
UK Riots (with the exception of Manchester which has its own thread)
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Seems like it Dr. D.
mainly around parliament street at the moment.
Still nothing out of the ordinary ongoing in Greater Manchester.
looks like it!
Did that women on Sky News just say she'd had her phone nicked off her after only having it only a few hours.
GMP repeatedly announced there is nothing out of the normal, as have ambulances and Fire Stations.
Glad to hear that.
I am hearing there is bother in Manc
hope it stays that way.
I have worked in 2 call centres, both of them took under 18s (I was 17 when I started) and with no experience, it is harder at 16, I was under the assumption we were talking about adults as the typical age bracket reported in these riots is 25, then again you wouldn't be expecting 16 year olds to be in as desparate need a job, typically living at home and going to college but for those who don't go to college and don't live at home I can understand your point there. I guess I could sympathise with your point if you're that age, but 18+ there isn't really an issue unless you set your standards too high. You could walk into a bar and get a job, any call centre and get a job etc if you were desparate enough.
It just seems like an excuse for people to hide behind that because they either a.) genuinely can't get a job for whatever reason or b.) don't want to do the work that businesses are actively advertising for that they need to go and smash some shops up and loot some free stuff and try to break into peoples houses and rob them. Like Plech has already said, these guys are just bored and think it's a laugh.
I'm glad you're here to tell us how we think.
You liable to be called in?
It's crazy how this is just spreading like a virus. I'm not too far away from Ealing and I'm sure those areas will join in too.....
If you end up getting called out mate GL and stay safe.
Yes mate. Some mates who were working have been kept on but it hasn't got to the stage of pulling people off rest day yet.
Does not sound good though.
Might not apply to you, but you can be sure it does for others.
Ye keep safe TR
should really be in bed , but I cant stop watching it
I wouldn't go out there with out a strap, if I was a copper like...I'm not taking this back to page 10.
Still nothing out of the ordinary going on.
feck sake, I don't work in the centre any more but the missus does and quite frankly I'd rather be there than have her going in on her own if it's kicking off.
Stay safe if you are called in pal.
Are you hearing anything specific or just bother in Manchester? Town centre or further out?
So you get arrested for looting currys....whilst wearing your currys uniform.
It's very interesting to see the sense of community amongst the Turks, Asians, and other immigrants who are reportedly banding together to defend themselves and their properties. Lots of ethnic communities have much closer relationships between members of the group than the average English people.
Warfare in Ealing. I walk along this road quite often and it's just carnage right now. If only there were enough cops to beat sense into that mob.
The sikh people in handsworth are trying to protect the community and their temples. The presenter was talking to the police telling them we are here to help you.
Doc, it seems like they need a new sheriff in town. You can be Wyatt Earp, and I'll be Doc Holliday.
I'm not one to usually defend the police, but for this occasion I hope they get the green light to rough these cnuts up. Best of luck to them.
Cheers all, hopefully it is all precautions and nothing will come of it.
Is rather worrying though I must admit.
At the minute, for Greater Manchester at least, it all appears to be precautions. No one wants to get caught out. With our force being the 3rd largest in the country I expect, depending on the rest of the country, we may be called in as mutual aid elsewhere.
I see similar things here sometimes. I wonder if it is because of the places they come from? They surely seem to be more vigilant about protecting their property and rights.
The age bracket in these riots (the latest ones, maybe not the ones 2 days ago) is certainly NOT 25. These are young people, forgotten by society, living in local council estates. Oh, and you can't just walk into any place of employment if you're desperate job. People would have already tried that wouldn't they? There are genuine people out there searching for a job, and the jobs simply aren't there. You can argue that fact all you wish, but it's true.
The issue is that the people who are rioting, in my opinion, simply do not WANT a job, whether they are they for them or not. The causes of why people are rioting have been discussed to exhaustion in here, but they are, as you put it, 'bored' for a reason. They don't want to go out and get a job for a reason. You can attack and berate the fools for rioting all you want, but you can't overlook the fact that they feel the way that they do for a goddammed reason.
Doc, it seems like they need a new sheriff in town. You can be Wyatt Earp, and I'll be Doc Holliday.
As long as I get a new pistol I'm in.
Ealing live on BBC
kicking off in Bristol now
If there are more unemployed people than job vacancies, which I believe is the current situation then however job vacancies you see there are going to be people who can't get a job. Vacancies aren't going to be evenly spread around either and most people don't have the flexibility to move, especially large distances, at the drop of a hat even if they want to leave family and friends. If you are then young then you may well be buggered for a job or at least feel like you are.
Which doesn't excuse anything of course.
There are also jobs that people don't want or like to take either because of the pay or the conditions or the locations or a combination of factors. In some cases this is snobbery or laziness but it will also often be for practical reasons. For example a 16 year old living at home can't really be expected to up roots and start living alone in a different part of the city or even a different city for a dead end job with a minuscule salary even if they could afford to move. I think we have had enough social disintegration in the UK over the last 30 years or so thank you very much.
Which doesn't excuse anything of course.
There are also jobs that people don't want or like to take either because of the pay or the conditions or the locations or a combination of factors. In some cases this is snobbery or laziness but it will also often be for practical reasons. For example a 16 year old living at home can't really be expected to up roots and start living alone in a different part of the city or even a different city for a dead end job with a minuscule salary even if they could afford to move. I think we have had enough social disintegration in the UK over the last 30 years or so thank you very much.
I am hearing various things to be honest, but I would not worry too much.
It is hard to know what is speculation and what is going on.
Our lads will be well ready for it though, should it happen, I can tell you that.
that's the spirit! Good luck if you get called in mate!!