I know he has had some injuries but there have been times when he could and IMO should have been given a run of games over the past 2 seasons or so. I just hope he doesn't get relegated to the bench again when the likes of Carrick, Fletcher and Gibson are fit again.
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Shite player, doesn't actually do anything. Fat and overrated by everyone lulz
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Really coming into his own, what a player we could have if he keeps up these types of performances.
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Really coming into his own, what a player we could have if he keeps up these types of performances.
Fergie will rotate, but Cleverley is more likely to miss out once Carrick and Fletch are ready to go...as for Gibson, so long as Ando isn't injured, no way in hell will he lose his spot to him, ever again.
Was thinking same thing - kind of hope he gets overlooked for Brazil. Then I think on the flip side it might be a confidence boost for him to make it but, then what if he makes it and then stops working as hard because he's "made it" ... makes me
Anyway - just hope he keeps playing as has regularly, think it makes a world of difference to his game.
It usually takes a Brazilian about 5 years to think they have "made it" and give up - See Ronaldinho, Adriano, Robinho, etc.
Anderson though is under the guidance of Fergie who'd drop him before Anderson so much as thought about getting cocky. Plus, Anderson was on the brink of the Brazilian team a couple years back and lost it - don't think he'd take his second chance lightly.
Anderson though is under the guidance of Fergie who'd drop him before Anderson so much as thought about getting cocky. Plus, Anderson was on the brink of the Brazilian team a couple years back and lost it - don't think he'd take his second chance lightly.
Would? He already did, several times.
Well lets for now just say he is going to take the opportunity with both hands and be a big player for us not only this season for a while.
Am really pissed that the HD went out for the 3rd goal and missed it. Not only missed Ando's antics but, also Clev's pass that lead to the foul.
Still think we've been a bit fortunate at times with the teams we've played who haven't made the most of some of the space both Ando and Cleverley leave - which is good because it does seem like they are getting better at covering when required.
Am really pissed that the HD went out for the 3rd goal and missed it. Not only missed Ando's antics but, also Clev's pass that lead to the foul.
Still think we've been a bit fortunate at times with the teams we've played who haven't made the most of some of the space both Ando and Cleverley leave - which is good because it does seem like they are getting better at covering when required.
Brazil can continue using lucas leiva..
We've had a spell like this for the last three years where his performances are top notch and everyone says the penny's dropped. I'm often a guilty party as I'm a fan of him as a player. But what tends to happen is that, after a great spell of a month or two, he either gets an injury or goes off the boil for a bit and doesn't recover for ages.
He's been very impressive so far but I think I'll keep my expectations down this season, as I'm getting some serious deja vu.
He's been very impressive so far but I think I'll keep my expectations down this season, as I'm getting some serious deja vu.
Just watched the highlights...Who did he go to after Rooney's first?...He points and runs to the Stretty when it goes in.
His rapport with the crowd is fantastic.
His rapport with the crowd is fantastic.
With Anderson, it is crucial whom he is paired with. I thought I was making this up, but I went and watched the beginning of the second half of the game against City and you could see his joy of being paired up with Cleverley, it is a brief moment when Cleverley first came onto the field.
Another good sign was at one point there was a chance for a Hollywood pass to Rooney which old Anderson would have jump at, instead he showed his growing maturity by playing the short simple pass that kept us moving forward. A small point but one that impressed me none the less.
Something that's underrated about Anderson is his ability to turn his man. I think it's because he makes it look so easy that it just seems like something ordinary and mundane.
He's got the potential to be absolutely amazing - he's playing really well now, but you get the sense there's so much more to come from him.
He's got the potential to be absolutely amazing - he's playing really well now, but you get the sense there's so much more to come from him.
he came over and celebrated in front of us on monday night and did the same, in the exact same spot yesterday, i got him taking the pi*s out of the pole in the arsenal goal on video... first time ive ever videod during the game.
i go to games to watch the football, not work on my camera skills.
Him, Young, Anderson and Rooney were practicing shots yesterday in the match before the game. They were all volleying it but couldn't get past Lindegaard for a while. Just as everyone else was going in Chicarito scored, and Hernandez and Anderson ran off celebrating as if they'd just scored a winner whilst pointing and laughing at Lindegaard. He was creasing up. The team spirit in the squad is incredible.
Do you sit next to Brad?...I swear those are his seats. Or damn near. Have you ever noticed a huge chinny John O Shea lookalike behind you?
i dont know brad at all, i sit in wl105 2nd row anyway and this is my 4th year in those seat...
He's been tremendous, couldn't have asked for more to start the campaign.
It looks like it's finally all coming together for him. He looks confident and happy out there, long may it continue!!
It looks like it's finally all coming together for him. He looks confident and happy out there, long may it continue!!
Oh what a difference a pre-season makes.
The guy who makes these videos has put together some good United themed stuff. Glad to see Ando's getting the recognition he hasn't in the past. A lot has been said about Tom Cleverley, not least by me, but I don't think the midfield would be quite the same without Ando's pace and power. The combination between Cleverley and Anderson seems to just work, its bringing the best out of both of them.
I mentioned he's been better than Cleverley, but in the Cleverley thread. Perhaps people have been a little hesitant to praise Anderson because this idea that he's developing slowly and is inconsistent.
But, as others have pointed out, people often compare young talents to some of the earliest bloomers in football, forgetting how many of the greats weren't stars at 19 or even 23.
I feel quite confident that Anderson has improved and this isn't just good form.
But, as others have pointed out, people often compare young talents to some of the earliest bloomers in football, forgetting how many of the greats weren't stars at 19 or even 23.
I feel quite confident that Anderson has improved and this isn't just good form.
I'd say there's not been much between Anderson and Cleverley. Probably only the WBA game where I would say Anderson was easily better over the full 90. Both have had very good games against Spurs and Arsenal, bar the last 20 minutes of the first half against Spurs.
Cleverley would attract praise as he's new to the first team and has settled in very well. It's difficult not to be highly impressed by his start.
However, Anderson's attracted plenty of praise on here, has been a regular in the MOTM threads and is getting his due credit. There are plenty of posters who have predicted this to be his breakout season and who have wanted Fergie to give him a long run in the first eleven(myself included) and who have pointed out that if he realises his potential then the need for a new midfielder is greatly lessened. His start to the season has just strengthened that viewpoint.
With Ando and Clev we almost play a 4132 with Anderson as the 1.
He's finally taken on the mantle of Scholes in that he's the one dropping to provide an option for the defenders to give the ball off to.
He's finally taken on the mantle of Scholes in that he's the one dropping to provide an option for the defenders to give the ball off to.
Disagree with Anderson playing the 1. it's not right for him. he is aggressive and creative by nature and by making him the pillar in front of back four you take something away from him/his spirit!
He needs licence to get all over the pitch. He can do so with great understanding with another midfield player which is why he's doing great with Cleverley in midfield and Rooney dropping sometimes.
He needs licence to get all over the pitch. He can do so with great understanding with another midfield player which is why he's doing great with Cleverley in midfield and Rooney dropping sometimes.
I don't think that's entirely accurate because Anderson does get forward and that helps us a lot. There's more mobility in our midfield because Cleverley and Anderson take it in turns to get up and down the field. You can see from that video I posted above that whenever Anderson goes forward Cleverley immediately drops back and vice versa. The two of them seem to be developing a growing appreciation of one another's movement and they have the tactical understanding to get when to go and when to stay.
This is helping us a lot because its making us more unpredictable. Many teams that played us before would get a man to sit on Carrick knowing that more often than not the ball played out of defence would be going to him. This is not a criticism of Carrick but because he very rarely goes forward this makes the job of defending against Man Utd with Carrick a relatively straightforward proposition: play 5 in the middle and sacrifice a man to chase him.
However, against more mobile midfielders this is a problem because if someone who has been playing deep suddenly goes forward or who has been playing forward suddenly drops deep it disrupts your team shape. The only way to adjust to it is to switch from man marking to zonal marking and then you're banking on your players being able to spot the runs and see the movement. The way Ando and Clevs alternate between going forward and hanging back makes it difficult for the opposition to pick them up and this opens gaps for us to operate in.
What Ando does have that Clevs doesn't is power. Clevs is a good tackler but Ando brings dynamic strength to our midfield which is sorely lacking when he isn't present. Even against Arsenal despite our dominance after Ando went off we weren't quite the same.
He has just shaded him, they've been very close. I really only give it to Anderson because his passing has looked more incisive on the Guardian chalkboards and he's carried the ball better.
But Cleverley has a better cross and better awareness. Anderson's % isn't as good, but Cleverley is making more simple passes, just making sure the defenders can never get close, usually ending with Anderson carrying the ball forward or passing to an open winger.
But yeah, to say one has been better is misleading, very similar quality.
I think Anderson at this stage has far more experience playing at the biggest stage than Cleverley which results in Ando keeping his head in the game for the full 90 minutes. The more Cleverley plays, the more experience he will get of this. Both cracking young players, I hope they keep playing together
Talking about consistency... He's now been voted the 3rd best player in all 4 games of the season so far here on the Caf.
Anderson Matchlog - Manchester United Man of the Match and Assists Stats
Player of the Month - Manchester United Man of the Match and Assists Stats
Anderson Matchlog - Manchester United Man of the Match and Assists Stats
Player of the Month - Manchester United Man of the Match and Assists Stats
Disagree with that. They both share the responsibility of staying deep at times.
Can I download that from somewhere? It's already blocked..
He charges forward - he doesn't hold in the 1 position but it's where he starts and it's where he drops back to when we're off the ball.
I'm not making this up, the player influence charts (showing where each player goes during the game) have him deeper behind Cleverley, who is about as far foward as the wingers usually.
Dunno mate see if you can PM the author on YouTube he goes by the alias of antooz or something like that.
Nah I wasn't saying you're making it up I think its simply that it looked different to my eyes because Anderson is a lot more mobile than Scholesy was in the twilight of his career. When you say 4-1-3-2 if evokes memories of the likes of Makelele sitting there whereas Ando is a lot more like a Paul Ince style player who offers muscle and movement instead of just patrolling the edge of our 18 yard box.
am on 4th row, Brad's seats so to say!
I was in "Brad's seats" at the Spurs game. We should have all group hugged.
that was my ticket then, Brad has it until i go back to Manchester! still in his name though.
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