No damn you, you have to judge him now, with statements like not United quality, or the next Bryan Robson, or my personal favourite can't play in a midfield 2 and you have to do it now!!!!
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No damn you, you have to judge him now, with statements like not United quality, or the next Bryan Robson, or my personal favourite can't play in a midfield 2 and you have to do it now!!!!
After less than 2 years you were happy to judge his team-mate Rodwell as a £30m talent?!
On a whole I'm super happy with his season so far. Even out of the couple of not-so-great performances, one was solely down to his poor defensive showing rather than any lack of quality on the ball.
That for me, is another thing I hope we get to see from Anderson on a consistent basis - improvement or refinement in the defensive side of his game. In fact, barring the last few games where he went defensively absent, I was impressed by his defensive work during games in the rest (particularly the earlier ones).
That for me, is another thing I hope we get to see from Anderson on a consistent basis - improvement or refinement in the defensive side of his game. In fact, barring the last few games where he went defensively absent, I was impressed by his defensive work during games in the rest (particularly the earlier ones).
IMHO Anderson has been a little put out of joint by the need to take the game to the opposition almost alone from centre midfield. To his credit Carrick tried to share the load against Basle (lots of negativity about his performance in that game but I thought he was alright, not great, but good enough) but I think Ando has been a little uncomfortable trying to handle the creative load alone.
If you look at his opta starts for earlier in the season when he was playing alongside Cleverley you can see he made more completed passes and more short passes too. He was also, of the two, more likely to hold position and let Cleverley go forward (though they shared the duty) making his customary runs from deep every so often.
Without Cleverley as a partner Anderson has reacted by trying, to my eyes, force the issue every time he gets the ball. I don't have the stats but from memory Ando's made more long pass attempts in the last few games than he had during the whole of his time playing alongside Cleverley. Instead of the composed, short, give and go style he started the season with when he was keeping the ball exceptionally well and completing the vast bulk of his passes Ando's lost a bit to his game by trying to rush through things everytime he touches the ball.
You can argue that there's not enough movement for him to do things differently but I think he's a decent enough dribbler to make room for himself to do more. I just feel right now that he's realised that its all on him to make things happen in the engine room and the pressure of being the main creative force has upset his decision making. He's not playing the free, easy, relaxed game he started the season with.
Yeah, I would agree that far too often since Cleverly got injured, Anderson seemed to take the mantle of taking us forward from midfield on his own, almost coming across as him forcing play whereas before that it was all instinctive and fluid. He's much better when it's he relies on instinct. And I'm not blaming Fletcher, or even Carrick. Because there could be a lot of reasons for it - the roles assigned to players, Anderson not confident enough to be the main man, other players not playing as well in those games etc. But it was noticeable, yes, whatever the reasons were.
First, I have certainly never said Rodwell is 30m pound player. All I've ever said is he is the type of talent who would develop into a star no matter where he ended up.
Second, from what I've seen of Barkely at 17 he is more of an attacking midfielder who plays wide than pure center midfielder like Rodwell. For Rodwell's role its straight forward. A player either has the positional and game reading awareness or they don't. Playmaker types in comparison take longer to master their craft. When he hits 22 one will start to have a better idea of the type of player he will end up as.
Im liking Anderson ALOT this season so far. he has revelled in the increased responsibility, thankfully gotten rid of his lack of goal scoring voodoo and is our future. I can see him getting 10-15 goals a year a la Scholes.
Maybe that why SAF felt he did need Schnieder .... as we have the long term replacement (albeit in a different guise and way of playing) in Anderson ..... he has had a long 4 year apprenticeship .... its now his time to make this team his own.
Maybe that why SAF felt he did need Schnieder .... as we have the long term replacement (albeit in a different guise and way of playing) in Anderson ..... he has had a long 4 year apprenticeship .... its now his time to make this team his own.
I still don't think Ando will ever be the "world class" midfielder we were all hoping he would be, but with the right fitness levels and consistency he will still be a very good one, for sure.
He will really start to make his mark as a United player this season. He is adding goals to his game which he lacked in his first few seasons with us. I believe he will get to the same level of quality as Scholes.
The same level of quality as arguably the Premierships best ever midfielder (or top 3 if you regard Keano to be better)? No chance.
No chance.
Wont happen.
thats a bold prediction
There will never be another Scholes
There will never be another Scholes
I've read some funnies in my time but Anderson at the same level as Scholes? HUR HUR HUR
Maybe when Scholes is 40
Maybe when Scholes is 40
You never know in Football. After Ronaldo's first 2/3 season at United how many would have predicted he would become one of United's greatest players and World player of the year.
I'd like to think the reason Fergie did not sign anyone to replace Scholes shows the faith he has in Anderson's ability.
Well at times you kinda do.
Anderson is 23, Ronaldo was 17/18 and always potentially one of the worlds best players, just maybe not as the type of player he is today, and he won the Ballon D'or at the same age Anderson is now. There's a big difference there, and to say Anderson can get to Scholes level, who was already a far superior player when he was 23 is just a bit silly really.
Oh and there's no "replacing" Paul Scholes, he's a once in a lifetime player.
Will never, ever, ever happen.
It would figure that Paul Scholes would manage to win 10 league titles and do it in such a way that no one much mentions it, because Giggs always had more.
The man likes to keep it on the down low.
The man likes to keep it on the down low.
He will of course prove you completely and totally wrong.
At 17 -18 Anderson was also potentially amongst the world bests and brightest talents to the extent that he was drawing frequent and deserved comparison with Ronaldinho.
So what? Zidane himself never won it that young either. The age you win it at matters little.
I wonder then how a Xavi become as good as Scholes then, when at age 23 he was far inferior in quality to a Scholes at that similar age....
Folks on here never ever learn.
There is nada to start. You will just be proven wrong.
Let's not start this again.
On here many clearly think SAF a fool for persisting with Anderson.
Some thought Jermaine Jenas was going to replace Paul Scholes.
which by your amazing wisdom is comparable to thinking Fergie a fool isn't it?
Well there is seeing as you just performed one of your moronic multi quotes again. You only win those battles because nobody has the energy to bother replying to them on a constant basis. We've had this conversation previously and clearly have different opinions on the matter, so give it a rest.
First off you are the moron if you really think I was trying to 'battle you''. News flash Cina My world certainly does not revolve around you!
Second, when I reply to a person posts I prefer to address a person's post point by point, so that they have no doubt about what I'm reacting to. Because I got tired of folks on here deliberately changing everything I said on here to what it was not in the past. Thus it just happened to become my permanent posting style. If you and others don't like it frankly its too fecking bad and your fecking problem alone. I don't need your opinion on how I choose to arrange my posts because I don't offer one on yours. So keep your opinion about it to yourself.
When you give airing your opinion on the matter a rest. I'll do so with mine
No. Just rasing the regularity you like to point out your opinions like they are going to happen and the pedestal you appear to put yourself on regardless of how regularly you are spectacularly wrong. Like when you said Jenas would be Scholes' replacement.
This would perhaps have been a better post to use.
I won't stop giving my opinion on the matter, I'll just stop reading yours.
I dont think Scholesy can be replaced tbh. he's a once in a lifetime footballer. Ronaldo always showed glimpses of the talent he had and the player he could become. Ando has it in him to be a fantastic player, no doubt, but he wont ever be as good as scholes i think.
No. people just think Anderson wont be as good as Scholes. there's a difference you see.
You are the only member on this forum who lives on a self made pedestal despite being consistently wrong with your amateur psycho analysis of folks on here.
Below is another of your gems:
and the iron is you think you have ''nailed me''I said Jenas would be the long term Scholes replacement, in a thread in which ''the potential of signing Jenas' was being discussed. But trust you to be stupid enough to interpret it as ''Jenas will definitely replace Scholes''. Rather than ''if Jenas is signed it would be to replace Scholes in the long term', which is what that statement actually meant when read in it's proper context. But Hey! It's you doing the quoting so no surprise there...your stupidity comes naturally.
Rather you shutting up completely would probably have been best of all. For then you wouldn't have revealed once again your penchant for showing a lack of thought when you post.
Actually they believe Anderson will never be world class. Naturally that means SAF is a fool to stick with a midfielder who will never be world class in his quest to replace Scholes long term.
I've never really understood this ''world class'' debate that people tend to get involved in when everyone conveniently changes the definition to suit himself/herself. what ''exactly'' is world class mate? its all subjective.
anyways, i dont think Sir Alex sticking with anderson has anything to do with whether or not he can be world class(whatever that means). We were in for sneijder this summer, does that mean he doesnt have faith in anderson? I dont think so. Ando is a very good talent who has it in him to be a brilliant player if he fulfills it. thats about it imo.
i dont think Sir Alex intends or hopes that ando will somehow be our next Scholesy though as someone here mentioned. It'd be foolish to think so. scholes was among the best CMs the world has seen this generation. Its about moving forward as a team and getting players that can do a job. we replaced ronaldo with valencia, polar opposites as you're likely to get. Players cannot always be replaced like to like. we gave carrick the no 16 when keano left, do you think Sir Alex really thought he was going to effectively ''replace'' Keano? i doubt that. Ando doesnt have to be the next scholes to play for us. he just has to be the best he can be, that'l be more than enough considering the talent he has.
Top post that. I believe I was also at fault for using the "world class" term, even though I don't like the term.
If it was subjective like people love to claim we would not be able to tell the difference between talents of the Messi, Giggs, Rio Ferdinand ilk of this world and the Bendtner, Kilbane and Zak Knight's.
Any way my big beef on here is with people constantly writing off our players prematurely. Saying they will 'never be'.... (insert relevant term or name here). While at the same time re-writing the past of the greats we have had in recent times.
Top post that. I believe I was also at fault for using the "world class" term, even though I don't like the term.
cheers. i've seen loads to it from time to time, no biggie.
If somebody needs a technical term to tell the difference between the first 3 and the last 3 that you mentioned, well, perhaps football aint the sport for him.
i agree with the writing off bit, but people are just saying he aint gonna be as good as scholes. hardly writing anderson off that. Its no slight on him.
You don't have to be World Class to have a good or even great United career. The likes of Carrick, Fletcher, Valencia, Park currently and many many more in the past (both Nevilles, Butt, Brown, O'Shea etcetc) have proved that.
Do I think he'll be World Class? I hope so but doubt it. Do I think he has the potential to be? Yes.
It doesn't mean that Fergie is a fool at all, I've never seen a squad with 22 World Class players.
You are the only member on this forum who lives on a self made pedestal despite being consistently wrong with your amateur psycho analysis of folks on here.
Below is another of your gems:
I said Jenas would be the long term Scholes replacement, in a thread in which ''the potential of signing Jenas' was being discussed. But trust you to be stupid enough to interpret it as ''Jenas will definitely replace Scholes''. Rather than ''if Jenas is signed it would be to replace Scholes in the long term', which is what that statement actually meant when read in it's proper context. But Hey! It's you doing the quoting so no surprise there...your stupidity comes naturally.
You have a habit of saying things will happen and saying people who disagree will be proved wrong or anyone who disagree's thinks Fergie us a fool when they've said nothing of the sort. Carry on though, anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see you for the fool you are. Your stock reply to this will be done along the lines of 'rather it is you who is the fool blah, blah, blah zzzzzzzzzz'.
Red Chief telling people what they think again? Now who was it that accused somebody else of amateur pyscho analysyis?
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