I've also said that if something definitively opposite to what I've said happens, ie we sign gaitan or something then I should be banned.
Eden Hazard | "I am signing for Chelsea"
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There's no point in stopping posting what you hear or offering to be banned. At the end of the day people will post articles and tweets that will turn out to be bullshit. Plus, as I said, the person giving you the info could be wrong so why should you be punished? Or maybe the situation could change for these players.
Exactly.
Yeah, stuff could change but, for example, i was told a few weeks ago that there is no way on god's green earth that we are signing gaitan. It's not a maybe. Anyway, I'll pm stuff to stobzilla and he can pass it on if he likes.
No not Stobzilla. Me!
If you pm me i'll post it all and if it comes true take credit for it, if not then i'll blame you.
You certainly know how to craft an attractive offer, Gambit. I wouldn't look towards a career in Sales, if I were you.
RR should continue to post his inside info, and subject himself to the slings and arrows of outraged posters. That's entertainment.
You dont think its a bit of a coincidence that through that mess, we come out looking like great talent spotters (aka. transfer muppets) who have agreements and are constantly offering for expensive talents around the world... When the reality is that in the recent past we've had just one summer where we've gone out and signed 2 expensive young talents on that kind of level (Nani and Anderson) ?
All sounds like a football manager expert's wet dream and nothing at all like our current policy.
We were obviously in for Nasri and I believe that we were in for Sanchez and Sneijder too, we would make moves for a few players as we know that some are not going to come off. If Nasri had signed then we may have moved for Sanchez too but not Sneijder.
You would have to be naive not to believe that clubs agree all sorts of verbal pre-contracts with players and their agents, many of which won't come off for varying reasons.
I wouldn't be surprised if we spent big this year either.
They both went for about £25m in the end didn't they? Five million more than Ashley young. Are you saying our policy isn't about signing young world class talent? Why should we not be interested in players like that?
He certainly was a big name after the Euros
Each. So thats another 5 plus another Ashley Young plus another 5.
And for non-English players unlike Young and Jones who we have spent a lot of our recent money on.
I'm not saying we shouldnt be interested. I'm saying I've been around a minute and if I'm not mistaken, we havent been doing what you've suggested else we'd probably have more than the one summer in about 08 when Nani and Anderson came in with Hargreaves and Tevez on loan.
It would be nice to have another summer like that if the money is well spent, but our recent track record suggests that it wont happen. Even if lots of people are speculating that it will happen... Thats been the case for a good 2 or 3 seasons now and each season we've pretty much just done as neccessary rather than floating the boat out and signing multiple very expensive young players who are already playing at a european competition level and attracting lots of attention.
Let me guess, the source you're talking about said last season that Nasri and Sanchez were being talked to. So thats why he's going on about us having agreements with them but conveniently they went south when other clubs came in. Presumably a year from now he'll be talking about how we had an agreement with Hazard and someone else before City and Madrid came in for them.
He certainly was, but he was one who outlined who he wanted to play for... Barcelona. And they made no move for him. Then nobody else came in for him (except Spurs if I recall and they werent a very good club at the time) and eventually after many months, maybe a year or so? Arsenal were able to take him on as there was no more competition for him. And then the month after Arshavin got the nasty shock that due to taxes he was getting less money than in Russia.
Glad to see he finally got his dream move eh
Well we had a verbal agreement on terms for months before de gea signed. He'd won the Europa league and in Spain's u-21 euro winning team. And he cost just under £20m. So clearly some do come off. The reality is that you have no idea what our policy is and how much we'll spend. You go on about the nani, Anderson, Hargreaves summer but the following year we paid £30.5m for berbatov. And we spent the best part of £60m last summer and were genuinely trying to sign sneijder.
Right. One player because VDS was definitely leaving.
Not 2 players out of their teens attracting interest from other top teams.
If we had an agreement with Nasri OR Sanchez perhaps thats a bit more believable. Both of them? Yeah right.
Berbatov was what 27? In the premier league. Again a single player and until the last days, when Berbatov had clearly already made his mind up, we werent really competing with anyone for him. Then City came in and apparently Barcelona but they were told that he was going to United or so the story goes.
We didnt seem to be genuinely trying too hard since Sneijder said he was expecting a bid but it never came.
In fact, let me get this straight now... You're claiming we had agreements with Nasri, Sanchez and were trying really hard to sign Sneijder too. All that in one summer?
I would bet my house that we verbally agree terms with many players players agents that we don't end up signing, as do other clubs.
Agents and clubs know that the deals fall through for a number of reasons, it would be due diligence to have many options.
The Sneijder deal story really took off after Sanchez and Nasri found other clubs, so from the anecdotal evidence it would suggest that he was third choice. It was reported that we could not agree terms with Sneijder so no bid was forthcoming.
Do you honestly think that we are not 'tapping' up players on a regular basis and do you honestly think that other clubs don't do that?
We will be talking to agents all through the season, for example, do you think that when Agents go in the players room or meet staff at OT for existing clients that the Agents don't talk about their other clients and in turn that Gill doesn't chat them up?
Get real.
Im sure we smashed in a bid for Sneijder but that bastard Eto was sold to Anzhi Muh-Khusch-Kala.
Can you tell me what field your source is in out of interest? Because if it's journalism I can tell you, first hand, you're talking about nonsense.
I know for an absolute fact even the most respected journalists, with the greatest sources - to both the individual clubs and players you talk about - would never speak in such certain terms.
Even John Cross at Arsenal wouldn't be privy to ANYTHING specific regarding RVP. He'd hear whispers from both camps, but that's each side bargaining and using the media. RVP has nothing - NOTHING - to gain from playing his hand so soon.
That's without even going into the rest...
If we are tapping up loads of players in their early and mid twenties that the other top clubs also want then why is it not a single one has made it through the door?
Is the answer that we're behind so many other clubs in the pecking order and we can never seem to make it that far, or is the reality that we arent in for every talented player in europe like our fans want to believe because they read it in the paper?
The reality is that we can't pay as high wages and fees as City, or in the recent past (and probably still) Chelsea and we don't have the allure of Barcelona or Madrid.
We are not in for loads players right now, Gill will be working on things at a number of levels and then narrow them down to a few options. I very much doubt that we will be sitting on our hands. David Gill will have the number of every major agent in the world, they will cross paths all the time and obviously discuss business.
I am also talking through history. Patrick Kluivert is one player who has admitted to having a verbal agreement with us that fell through.
We were obviously in for Nasri last year and then maybe one of two from Sanchez and Sneijder, who knows if we signed Nasri we may have not gone for Sanchez, neither the club nor player is obliged to follow through a verbal agreement, quite clearly.
Since the Abramovich take over we have had a tougher time signing whoever we want, it does not mean that we have stopped trying.
If you've read any of my posts of the last however long you'll know what I think about the bullshit most journos come out with. I think one or two know what they're talking about: James ducker of the times is very good, as is Andy mitterr.
The way it works is that we'll have a list of players in order of preference. We'll then make enquiries for all of them and see how things develop. For example, we wanted modric but levy just told us to feck off. We only pursued sneijder at the end of the summer when all else had failed. We don't chase every talent in Europe but we do have a few options that we explore.
Martin Ferguson and Patrick Vieira both at the Lille-PSG game.
Just equalised for Lille against PSG after Pastore put them ahead.
Had a good shot on the post too in the first half
Fergie Fergie sign him up.
What a cross for their second goal 
2-1 Lille. Came from a cross where Hazard did a rabona and it was knocked down to Nolan Roux. Some skill.
If PSG ends up losing this they can almost kiss the title goodbye.It'd be extremely funny.All the money and superstars they bought, to end up with zero trophies
Will be interesting to see just how much money it's going to take to get him.
I think it's inevitable that it's the Lille defender we're looking at and not Hazard, not if the reports that we've offered Kagawa a contract are true
Don't think it's inevitable at all. Until Kagawa signs a contract we're not committed to him, and he might well be our second choice. Or we might even be interested in getting both.
I'm finding it hard to believe that all the United hierarchy are making the trip to France to scout an unknown Lille defender. That kind of treatment is usually reserved for big signings. After all, we paid £7.5M for Bebe and Fergie had never laid eyes on him.
IF we are signing nethanial cylne too, then i cant see us buying ANOTHER right back? we've got plenty of RB, but no LB.
Good point
It's quite hard to watch the game and not notice Hazard. I'm sure that SAF is considering the deal, especially when it's clear that he is destined to leave Lille.
Confidence.
Crucial moments of important game and he's deciding to go for the trick pass. which leads to a winning goal.
Crucial moments of important game and he's deciding to go for the trick pass. which leads to a winning goal.
"I want to play in England and that's what I've decided to."
according to a TV presenter in Paris.
according to a TV presenter in Paris.
He'll do well.
For City or Chelsea.
For City or Chelsea.
Us or City? Squeaky bum time.
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