Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!

Shark22 said:
If you take out the injuries and concentrate on his ability and individual performances in his Arsenal days, RVP is definitely up there with the best strikers to play the game. He's never really suffered with form, it's the injuries that hampered him.

If he went to us, Madrid or Barca instead of Arsenal and steered clear of injuries, he'd be swimming in trophies by now. For a player of his ability, he should have a feck load more honours at 29 years of age.
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RVP one of the best all time strikers in the history of game? HA HA HA :lol: he's been good for us so far this season and was electric for Arsenal last season but that's about it. Lets not go comparing him to a Ronaldo, Shearer, Van Nistelrooy, Raul here.

If I took out Owen Hargreaves, Darren Anderton and Saha's injuries they were probably awesome players as well, hell Michael Owen with a Ballon D'or despire mass injury is probably the best of all time, ever every. :drool: :)
 
Claymore said:
Lets not go comparing him to a Ronaldo, Shearer, Van Nistelrooy, Raul here.

If I took out Owen Hargreaves, Darren Anderton and Saha's injuries they were probably awesome players as well, hell Michael Owen with a Ballon D'or despire mass injury is probably the best of all time, ever every. :drool: :)
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Bizarre bizarre post.

So you're comparing RVP to Hargreaves, Anderton and bloody Saha? wtf.

And in your best strikers ever that apparantely RVP is nowhere near, you include fecking 1 league title Shearer? As for pure ability as the post you responded to said, he better than RVN too.
 
I'm always right said:
Bizarre bizarre post.

So you're comparing RVP to Hargreaves, Anderton and bloody Saha? wtf.

And in your best strikers ever that apparantely RVP is nowhere near, you include fecking 1 league title Shearer? As for pure ability as the post you responded to said, he better than RVN too.
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Where did I say I compared RVP to Hargreaves and co, it was a seperate paragraph mate. The point in that one is that you can't talk about 'what if'. RVP is not one of the best strikers of all time, not by a long chalk, lets take off the specs here. If he had joined us 5 years ago who know's.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
He'd have more assists playing out wide. I don't think he's a particularly gifted in passing between the lines and setting up his team mates in tight central areas....
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Villas boas is helping him develop that side of his game though. I thought in his last appearance for example he was excellent coming off the flank and floating just behind the opposing midfield.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Villas boas is helping him develop that side of his game though. I thought in his last appearance for example he was excellent coming off the flank and floating just behind the opposing midfield.
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Didn't watch the last and generally not watched Spurs games in entirety very often of late, but I'm not impressed by his all round play in central areas. Maybe there has been some improvement of late. Very good news for spurs if that's the case. But is it enough to compensate for the lack of good supply from wide areas?
 
kouroux said:
Exactly what I feel about him.If he is available for a fee between £30m-£35m then I hope United will try to get him
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Agree. For 50 million you'd expect a world beater, one of the most gifted players in the world. Bale is not that. He is very very good though.
 
The only reason I would want Bale is because of his left foot. Especially, if we Fergie sees Fabio as the future for the Lb position.

Otherwise, I would want a more versatile attacker in case Nani leaves.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Agree. For 50 million you'd expect a world beater, one of the most gifted players in the world. Bale is not that. He is very very good though.
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I miss the times when you could expect a worldbeater at a measly 30-35 million.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Agree. For 50 million you'd expect a world beater, one of the most gifted players in the world. Bale is not that. He is very very good though.
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Bale is tipped to become something of a world-beater though.

Believe it or not.
 
He's still only 23/24, it's not hard to envisage him becoming one of the worlds best wingers, especially if he did move to a proper big club.
 
Cina said:
He's still only 23/24, it's not hard to envisage him becoming one of the worlds best wingers, especially if he did move to a proper big club.
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Wingers ?

He is already there probably in terms of wingers only.
 
True, but that's mainly due to the fact that the modern winger isn't much of a winger anymore, so there's not an awful lot of them out there.
 
Cevno said:
Wingers ?

He is already there probably in terms of wingers only.
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Yeh, better than anyone else I can think of right now. Barring Zaha, of course.

I think Sanchez could have been up there, but he seems to have stalled a bit since moving to Barca.

Hazard and Lucas are younger though, and will be up there if everything goes according to plan.

EDIT: Ribery is a better player than Bale, so he's not the best atm, IMO.
 
He's not as good as Ribery. I think Di Maria and Nani are just as good on form too but neither of them have been on form this season.
 
Cina said:
He's not as good as Ribery. I think Di Maria and Nani are just as good on form too but neither of them have been on form this season.
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Di Maria and Nani are too inconsistent. Di Maria hasn't done much at Madrid either.

You could say Ribery is better but i think Bale is right up there with him, playing in a tougher league. Still he is one amongst the best at least.
 
Mata maybe, but he hardly plays as a winger these days.
 
Still ill said:
Tables do annoy me. I'm going to pass on the notion that Podolski has been a more effective performer than Bale this season.
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Brosstan said:
Is this proof that Bale isnt effective? How about comparing him with players in his positions instead of strikers. Everyone on that list except Cazorla, Mata and Gerrard play in more advanced positions than Bale.
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I haven't said anything, just posted a table. Considering the price tags being thrown about for him you would think he would be higher up on that table. Spurs aren't exactly a relegation team, genuine contenders for a Top 4 place and last season RvP was able to hit 30 league goals for a team of similar quality so there is no guarantee he is going to jump 2 or 3 levels by moving to another team.

He is compared to C.Ronaldo, at the same age in this league if someone made a table like the one I posted I'd bet he would be top or near the top of that. At a similar age I believe had come of a season where he scored 23, set up 15+ and was now in his season where he scored 30 league goals. Don't get me wrong Bale is a brilliant player and potentially a World class player but he is still far from that level.
 
I don't understand the negativity on here towards Bale. He is clearly one of the best wingers in the world right now and has been for prob 2 seasons before this one too. Would I want him at United - in a heartbeat!

Those questionning the potential fee need to look no further than Lucas Moura. Yes, lots of potential but with no proven track record and a £35m fee - Bale has to be worth £5-10m more than Lucas currently?

I don't think we will buy him as I don't think Spurs will sell for less than £50m and City/Chelsea would probably be perpared to pay that, unfortunately.
 
R0nald0 said:
I don't understand the negativity on here towards Bale. He is clearly one of the best wingers in the world right now and has been for prob 2 seasons before this one too. Would I want him at United - in a heartbeat!

Those questionning the potential fee need to look no further than Lucas Moura. Yes, lots of potential but with no proven track record and a £35m fee - Bale has to be worth £5-10m more than Lucas currently?

I don't think we will buy him as I don't think Spurs will sell for less than £50m and City/Chelsea would probably be perpared to pay that, unfortunately.
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Pretty much.
 
R0nald0 said:
I don't understand the negativity on here towards Bale. He is clearly one of the best wingers in the world right now and has been for prob 2 seasons before this one too. Would I want him at United - in a heartbeat!

Those questionning the potential fee need to look no further than Lucas Moura. Yes, lots of potential but with no proven track record and a £35m fee - Bale has to be worth £5-10m more than Lucas currently?

I don't think we will buy him as I don't think Spurs will sell for less than £50m and City/Chelsea would probably be perpared to pay that, unfortunately.
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Andy Carroll went for £35mill, does that mean all players of his quality are now worth similar money?

I do think Bale will command a fee of around £40 million and I think it will work out well for Spurs. They could sign 2 or 3 very good players for that money and they'll be a better team as well.
 
R0nald0 said:
... I don't think we will buy him as I don't think Spurs will sell for less than £50m and City/Chelsea would probably be perpared to pay that, unfortunately.
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If it becomes necessary to sell Bale, and as with Modric, Levy won't sell to a Prem rival (either current or future potential) unless they offer a hefty wedge more - at least £10m more IMO - than than any bids from the likes of Real Madrid.

In other words, he'd be prepared to drop a few million in order to avoid strengthening another Prem top 6 team.

All in my opinion of course ....
 
GlastonSpur said:
If it becomes necessary to sell Bale, and as with Modric, Levy won't sell to a Prem rival (either current or future potential) unless they offer a hefty wedge more - at least £10m more IMO - than than any bids from the likes of Real Madrid.

In other words, he'd be prepared to drop a few million in order to avoid strengthening another Prem top 6 team.

All in my opinion of course ....
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Not sure about that. He wouldn't want to strengthen the challengers for 3rd/4th, but I can't see why he'd be too bothered about United or City buying him.
 
Brightonian said:
Bale is a very good player. He's not worth £50mil. We're never, ever going to buy him.
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Surely a players price is all relative?

Rio Ferdinand cost £30 million quid - when no players went for theat sort of money. Divide that over the seasons he's had and the games he's played - it seems like a decent bit of business.

I'm not saying he's worth this or that - only that if a player is the right player, within reason you pay what you have to to get him.

Fergie was prepared to pay a large sum for an untested Brazilian this summer - if you believe the media. He obviously deemed that a gamble worth taking, so who knows.
 
Forevergiggs said:
Not with the current transfer policy in place. Levy has seriously hampered your chances of a top 4 finish this season. Looks like Wenger will get his 4th place cup and you'll get the transfer market cup.
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We're currently in 4th place and actually 3 points better off than we were following the same/equivalent fixtures last season (when we finished in 4th).

I believe that Arsenal are well down points-wise on the same basis.

Obviously it's not necessarily an indication of what will happen in the games to come, but it's interesting to note.
 
Surprised how quite a few are underrating Bale here. He is transforming into a monster of a player IMO, definitely up there with the best talents in the world. The only thing lacking is the use of both feet but his left peg is so good that it doesn't really matter. He's been gliding past players with ease on either flank and in the middle.. in fact the only game i've seen him be pretty quiet in was against us at WHL. I've watched Spurs quite a bit this season as well.
 
adamwest said:
Surprised how quite a few are underrating Bale here. He is transforming into a monster of a player IMO, definitely up there with the best talents in the world. The only thing lacking is the use of both feet but his left peg is so good that it doesn't really matter. He's been gliding past players with ease on either flank and in the middle.. in fact the only game i've seen him be pretty quiet in was against us at WHL. I've watched Spurs quite a bit this season as well.
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He's been good this season and quite consistent, but no more consistent than Nani's 18 month good spell, yet Nani is somewhat crowned as MR. Inconsistent whereas Bale isn't - and Bale last season and the season before was no more consistent than Nani! Tbf, I think Nani has more potential still than Bale - he's almost as quick (acc probably better), better close control, better dribbling and a rather similar shot - but is no longer stupid enough to take on every shot, like Bale still does. His short passing is, imo, quite a lot better. Bale on the wing is more direct though and probably has just ever so slightly better crosses.

To me, I would rather keep Nani, but I wouldn't mind both of them as Bale is leagues above Young!
 
Claymore said:
RVP one of the best all time strikers in the history of game? HA HA HA :lol: he's been good for us so far this season and was electric for Arsenal last season but that's about it. Lets not go comparing him to a Ronaldo, Shearer, Van Nistelrooy, Raul here.

If I took out Owen Hargreaves, Darren Anderton and Saha's injuries they were probably awesome players as well, hell Michael Owen with a Ballon D'or despire mass injury is probably the best of all time, ever every. :drool: :)
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There was me thinking you were going to mention Pele, Eusebio and Van Basten, not Shearer and Van Nistlerooy!

RVP is a better player than RvN anyway.
 
As much as we would love to have him at United, i doubt we will go for him after the signing of Zaha. Unless, if unless Nani leaves and we need a replacement who is not Zaha himself
 
Snake Plissken said:
Bizarrely he gets a hell of a lot more hype than the above mentioned.
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Its weird. They are all better players than him. All a lot less selfish and still more productive. Selfishness gets mistaken for ability because it leads to goals.

But some of the arguments going the other way about him are over the top as well. Bale is a very good player. Not worth £50m and not the best in the league out of comparable players, but still very good. His value is probably in the £30m region for any club except Real, Barca, City, Chelsea.
 
Gareth Bale is a better player than Cristiano Ronaldo, says Jeff Stelling. http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,12088_8477969,00.html

''What Bale's got that Ronaldo hasn't is incredible strength and power. Ronaldo is quick but when Bale gets up a head of steam, there's no stopping him.''

''I heard Jamie Redknapp say on Super Sunday that Bale is 'absolutely world class', that he's 'as good as Ronaldo. I don't often disagree with Jamie, but I think it's got to the stage where you can say that Bale is better than Ronaldo because he's simply unplayable.''

:lol: I like Jeff Stelling he's brilliant on Soccer Saturday but he's talking complete shite here.
 
Yeah, if there's one thing Ronaldo doesn't have it's strength and power. :rolleyes:
 
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