Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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This was a monumental mistake by United, i've yet to see what he offfers us. The sooner we cut him loose and let him go back to Everton the better. I know its harsh but it would be the best for all concerned.
 
This was a monumental mistake by United, i've yet to see what he offfers us. The sooner we cut him loose and let him go back to Everton the better. I know its harsh but it would be the best for all concerned.


That's just stupid thinking. All indications from the coaching staff at the club suggest that they are setting about giving him the fitness and positional sense to play the box to box role for us and that they feel given time he can adjust to that role and be an asset. Why not give him time to at least settle at the club before forming concrete views on his long term usefulness?
 
That's just stupid thinking. All indications from the coaching staff at the club suggest that they are setting about giving him the fitness and positional sense to play the box to box role for us and that they feel given time he can adjust to that role and be an asset. Why not give him time to at least settle at the club before forming concrete views on his long term usefulness?

Yes. It is crazy to pass judgement on a player so early. I think, given time he can be useful for us. Won't be the one who will solve our midfield problems forever, but then, nobody had thought so when he was signed. Granted we pay a lot etc blah blah but that is in the past. No point whining about it forever. He might come handy for us if he works on his positional sense.
 
It's obvious why Moyes bought him. He offers us something our other midfielders don't, our midfield is shite, he was brilliant for Moyes' Everton side. Nobody can blame Moyes for pursuing him, in my opinion.

Is it, feck?

Because he has done absolutely nothing to even remotely explain why we bought him. Let alone pay top dollar for him.
 
To be fair, he said he'd be the new Roy Keane. I can only imagine he means he's a bitter bastard.

Don't let him get near MUTV....

It was a panic fee but I don't think it was a panic buy. His name was mentioned early enough and so many times during the summer.
 
I can't help but feeling he was a last resort type signing. After we had bids rejected for other midfielders we turned back to him at the last minute and therefore overpaid. Didn't want him then and he hasn't change my mind. As the other poster said of course I hope he improves and he proves me wrong but I just can't see it. I just don't see where he's just suddenly going to get the ability from. I know he's low on confidence but still regardless of that I don't think he's quite good enough to be a regular.

This would have been true if the bid at 11 o'clock was the first one. Apparently we had two other bids refused from Everton for him (one as early as July) so he wasn't a panic buy at all. Him and Baines were the primary targets.
 
feck sake, he didn't even play last night and people are abusing the shite out of him.
 
Was never keen on his signing but should wait until he's properly fully fit to really assess him, I mean look at how much better Clev has looked these last two games. I suspect he'll never be quite quality enough for the first eleven, in terms of the sort of midfield we should be fielding as opposed to what we have been fielding in recent years but he should be good enough to be a good squad option, undoubtedly very below par so far. Not sure when the last game he played in was but feels like more than 2 weeks which was the time given to do the surgury on his wrist and recover I thought? Might have been a handy time to book him in, though suppose that's in hindsight.
 
Not sure when the last game he played in was but feels like more than 2 weeks which was the time given to do the surgury on his wrist and recover I thought? Might have been a handy time to book him in, though suppose that's in hindsight.

I believe his last game was against Everton, 16 days ago. But I'm not sure it's a long enough period for recovery. I think they talked about a six-week recovery from the wrist surgery he needs?
 
The thing that annoys me most is that we don't even seem to know ourselves what to do with him. When Moyes paid £30m for him I thought it was part of a master plan and Moyes was one step ahead of us all. If Moyes had just given a clear indication of his thinking, I'd have forgiven it.

I was looking for that clarity in his Press unveiling but even Moyes himself didn't even seem to know. "Uh well he can play in erm.. behind striker and uh, midfielder, I guess"
 
I believe his last game was against Everton, 16 days ago. But I'm not sure it's a long enough period for recovery. I think they talked about a six-week recovery from the wrist surgery he needs?


Maybe, I'm sure I remember reading at the time it came out that they anticipated at most 2 weeks out. I mean I guess there can always be complications etc but then you'd think if it is a wrist injury there's a fair bit of non-contact training he could do to keep sharpness/fitness up.
 
Can someone help me out here as I don't recall much from his Everton days except his elbows..

Did he actually play this position for Everton? As I only recall the keeper/defenders hoofing it to him, him elbowing all around him and holding up the ball..

If he didn't play this position before, it's a bit unfair on the guy to expect him to do so


This has come up about 100 times already.

He signed for Everton and played in midfield for a couple seasons. He then started to be used further forwards on occasion due to Everton having no strikers. The last year or two he was primarily played further forward.
 
The thing that annoys me most is that we don't even seem to know ourselves what to do with him. When Moyes paid £30m for him I thought it was part of a master plan and Moyes was one step ahead of us all. If Moyes had just given a clear indication of his thinking, I'd have forgiven it.

I was looking for that clarity in his Press unveiling but even Moyes himself didn't even seem to know. "Uh well he can play in erm.. behind striker and uh, midfielder, I guess"

Yeah, other than the fact that that didn't happen it's an excellent point.
 
Him being injured is fantastic, as I get to pretend he's not a United player.

Also, I read in the paper today that we haven't won a match that he's started.
 
feck sake, he didn't even play last night and people are abusing the shite out of him.


It's one of those threads which you enter and you know that the same old boring cnuts will be moaning about him, despite him not playing in a match.

And other same old boring cnuts will jump here to defend him, so, hello everybody.
 
Him being injured is fantastic, as I get to pretend he's not a United player.

Also, I read in the paper today that we haven't won a match that he's started.
Might be time for a change of paper
 
Call a spade a spade, he has lived up to his billing as a potential top midfielder for United. He has shown the attributes he has, once he manages to glue everything together... beware. Naysayers will be naysayers...
 
Can someone help me out here as I don't recall much from his Everton days except his elbows..

Did he actually play this position for Everton? As I only recall the keeper/defenders hoofing it to him, him elbowing all around him and holding up the ball..

If he didn't play this position before, it's a bit unfair on the guy to expect him to do so

He played behind the striker for most of last season, and a bit the season before (for instance, the game we lost 4-2 or 4-3 to Everton where he and Pienaar scored in the last few minutes). Prior to that he played in a holding role for Everton, where he's played for us. He also plays the holding role for Belgium.

I still think he'll hit stride as a United player, he's a better footballer than he's shown for us thus far imo.
 
Call a spade a spade, he has lived up to his billing as a potential top midfielder for United. He has shown the attributes he has, once he manages to glue everything together... beware. Naysayers will be naysayers...

:lol:
 
Call a spade a spade, he has lived up to his billing as a potential top midfielder for United. He has shown the attributes he has, once he manages to glue everything together... beware. Naysayers will be naysayers...
:lol: oh my
 
He played behind the striker for most of last season, and a bit the season before (for instance, the game we lost 4-2 or 4-3 to Everton where he and Pienaar scored in the last few minutes).

A traumatic day for us all. I'll forgive you this repressed memory and factual errors.
 
Phil Jones is a centre back being played out of position.

That probably illustrates that those attributes are worth diddly squat in the position that he was bought for and actually is probably not the reason he was bought by Moyes in the first place.

I highly doubt a competent manager like David Moyes bought him primarily because he has characteristics that a nearly-retired Rio Ferdinand still has in abundance.
 
Phil Jones is a centre back being played out of position.

I don't really get this "CB out of position" business.

There has been no point where I have seen him do something in the last few games he has played CM where I have thought "ohh you can tell that's not his natural position". He's been playing in CM and playing bloody well therefore he is a CM.

He's a defensive minded centre mid but he's still a centre mid. He's a better player than most other Premiership defensive midfielders too.
 
He played behind the striker for most of last season, and a bit the season before (for instance, the game we lost 4-2 or 4-3 to Everton where he and Pienaar scored in the last few minutes). Prior to that he played in a holding role for Everton, where he's played for us. He also plays the holding role for Belgium.

I still think he'll hit stride as a United player, he's a better footballer than he's shown for us thus far imo.



What game?!
 
That would be the 4-4 game, I'd assume.


How anyone could get the details of that game wrong I'll never know.

4-2 up, Evra hits the post with a header.

Jones starts to warm up, then sheer shock as Everton get it back to 4-4, and Fergie still brings Jones on!

Rio taking a last min left foot pile driver from outside the area, but alas well saved.

At least we've got the Wigan away game to come we all thought...
 
How anyone could get the details of that game wrong I'll never know.

4-2 up, Evra hits the post with a header.

Jones starts to warm up, then sheer shock as Everton get it back to 4-4, and Fergie still brings Jones on!

Rio taking a last min left foot pile driver from outside the area, but alas well saved.

At least we've got the Wigan away game to come we all thought...

How can anyone forget the Wigan away was before the Everton game? :angel:
 
I wholeheartedly agree with Owen's assesment on Fellaini where he said Fellaini would be and has shown that he can be a brilliant player in a playing style that would best suit his attributes. For those that keep needing to point out that he has played in midfield often before for Everton, I ask you would his play in midfield at Everton warrant him even being linked with Manchester United or was it his stellar play playing further forward that would warrant him being in anyway deemed good enough for United? I suggest it's the latter.

In a way I do feel bad for him because he did walk into an unenviable position. We were desperate for a midfielder and after being linked with Fabregas, Thiago and Herrera, we ended up with Fellaini, which would always seem like a big let down amongst the fans. I also do think if Thiago or Herrera did come here and were pretty poor like Fellaini has been, they'd be given a pass. I do appreciate that he really does seem to want to be here and I do think he can be useful for us, but until he shows me otherwise, I will not change my opinion that we got it wrong buying him and we basically paid a shit load of money for another squad player.
 
I remember the first few months for vidic and evra were terrible, the following season they turned into world class players.

I don't think that's gonna happen to fellaini.
 
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