I wish people will judge him when he's had a decent run of games whilst being injury free.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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I love how everything has to be extremes for some people in here.
There's absolutely no contradiction between these two posts - Of course he's a good footballer, and of course he's not "top class".
Basically every player in Europe's best leagues is a good footballer. They wouldn't have been playing professional football and getting millions if they were shit at it.
Is he good for a top team though? Personally I don't think that he is or he'll ever be, but we'll see. Good for a squad player? Maybe.
I think it's fair to say that a lot of people are, albeit when he was at Everton.
We have Mata now, and if we get another top midfielder to play alongside him, I see no reason why Fellaini won't be a very good player for us from next season onwards.
This season is probably a bit of a write off due to injuries and the fact that he doesn't really have a partner who suits him.
This season is probably a bit of a write off due to injuries and the fact that he doesn't really have a partner who suits him.
It's amazing really how short memory people have. We were once labelled one dimensional due to our over reliance on Valencia. Form is temporary guys.
It really is. Fellaini is not Toni Kroos, but he is better than Fletcher.
Couldn't agree more Cina we have needed 3-4 new players and coupled with RVP Rooney Carrick being injured any new player would have struggled. Fellaini won't make us world beaters on his own but he will hopefully become an important piece of the jigsaw.
The majority of people here regularly watch EPL. And they are judgind him on that, something that is entirely fair.
We all love Mata and think that he is brilliant. Should we reserve our judgement for him too, until he proves himself for us.
It's such a simple thing, people will be sceptic if the club signs a very average player and will be happy if they sign a great player.
Honestly what are his strengths in midfield. He's slow and cumbersome. He is an okay passer, he has a good physical presence. But against the best teams the game will pass him by.
Does he have strengths I'm missing out on? I haven't watched much of him admittedly.
Does he have strengths I'm missing out on? I haven't watched much of him admittedly.
I tend to agree with you given what we've seen of him at United, but he's not had a run of games yet and I do recall at Everton that he was a skillful attacking threat who despite his lack of speed used to retain the ball well and go past defenders. He was also a good passer and excellent in the air, he has a powerful shot and can volley well. I still don't think that warrants his price tag, but take a look at highlights of the 4-4 game vs Everton two seasons ago and you'll see him at his best.
Why does he need a top midfielder alongside him for him to become very good? That has to be the definition of a passenger, which is exactly what we don't need. It might be a bit hypocritical of me because I defend Cleverley a fair bit on here but it's a sign of his lack of quality if we need to put classy players next to him for him to play well. Carrick didn't have anyone top class next to him last season and he was excellent. Rafael didn't have a top class winger in front of him yet he was excellent, RvP didn't have great service yet he was excellent. Fellaini's qualities shining through shouldn't only be dependent on those around him. Someone said it earlier but he's currently getting bullied by players he would normally bully when he was at Everton. It creates a perceived lack of effort and I think there would be a lot more patience amongst our support if he was even just doing those basic things that made him so difficult to play against.
What's become abundantly clear is that his wrist and back injuries have had an impact - certainly explains why he was playing like a cowardly fanny.
A fit and confident Fellaini is capable of putting in domineering performances.
I never thought he was right for us, but both Moyes and the player are on record as saying CM is his long term position - we should have some faith in that and give him a chance to prove us wrong.
A fit and confident Fellaini is capable of putting in domineering performances.
I never thought he was right for us, but both Moyes and the player are on record as saying CM is his long term position - we should have some faith in that and give him a chance to prove us wrong.
I totally agree! I think we should all start again with Fellaini and cut him some slack! Let's judge him in a month or so when he has had the chance to play without injuries and has some real fitness.He is not a world beater and never will be but he could be just what we need in front of the back four if he can play to his potential.I wish him well and I am open minded about what he can achieve.
He deserves another chance. But I hope he attempts to atleast run. Quite a few games, when we got hit on the break he was just casually jogging back.
In fairness, when it comes to mobility, a back injury is less than ideal.
I was thinking what a good post until the bolder part!!
Like the last 5 years? Even Everton fans would tell you he isn't the player for Manchester United. We're relying on blind hope with this one unfortunately.
Well not one of my mate is an Everton fan but the resident Everton fan does seem to rate him highly.
And thinks their team is better off without him if I remember right. A team that hasn't got close to Utd in years. The transfer still baffles me.
I definitely think it is better to write-off a player before he's really settled.
Writing it off is based on 5 years in the EPL. Fellaini was never United quality and never will be. I understand if we were talking about Anderson, Nani or Ronaldo type of transfer - unknown highly rated youngster, but with Fellaini what's unknown?
He was good for Everton certainly, but he was good as a #10 or stuck infront. Why would he ever bring to our game however playing like #10 and why would ever he be more appropriate than Rooney, Kagawa and now Mata, playing there?
I forgot that players don't develop..And fellaini made his name initially as a more defensive CM and was getting linked to bigger clubs.
Forget it.
Until he plays regularly he's going to be garbage in peoples eyes who have memories that last little longer than a year.
I can understand the disappointment of the Fellaini signing but I still think he can contribute.
They can develop but fellaini basically has to change who he is. All his qualities come from being an aggressive player and heading the ball or chesting it down. He's got a decent touch, he's slow, he's not a very hard worker (even the Everton fan here said he's pretty lazy), he's not even that great of a tackler seeing he fouls the opposition all the time. Players can develop, but he'd require a drastic change in who he is to turn into a player that suits us. It was just a bad signing. He can become a decent squad player at the best of times, and I'm sure most on here would be relatively ok with it if we signed a top player and bought him for like 15m at most, which was closer to his value.
Also literally the only top clubs he was ever linked with were united since moyes took over and then arsenal. I don't actually remember anyone going for him, because most top clubs require talent on the ball for you to succeed in midfield.
I love how everything has to be extremes for some people in here.
There's absolutely no contradiction between these two posts - Of course he's a good footballer, and of course he's not "top class".
I'm sorry but how on Earth can you claim Fellaini is going to be a future Ballon d'Or winner?
Not that it has the slightest relevance to anything but he was linked to pretty much everybody.
Dont be silly...cant be ignorant know it all cnuts if we do that
Hopefully the Mata signing will take some pressure off him.
If he could grow into a useful player for us we're well set for the summer window and less desperate for a CM.
If he could grow into a useful player for us we're well set for the summer window and less desperate for a CM.
Really hoping he's fit and starts, perfect game for him.
He had a release clause (which wasn't that big). If someone wanted him, they would have used that release clause.
He was linked to other clubs the same way Falcao was linked to us.
I've convinced myself for no apparent reason he'll now suddenly turn into a big success for us.
He'll come good. No one can tell me otherwise until he's sold/retired.
He'll come good. No one can tell me otherwise until he's sold/retired.
I have big hopes that he will prove his critics wrong soon enough. He must play soon to turn our fortunes around.
That injury was the problem
If Fellaini had played today we'd have won comfortably.
I don't mean to imply that having Fellaini in midfield would have completely changed the outcome, but something tells me his sort of presence in the anchor role instead of having Cleverley running around mindlessly ahead may have seen something different in terms of the outcome. His physicality would have been useful, and a presence in the air on corners would have benefitted too once we lost Jones and Evans as two big threats, leaving just Smalling out there. It's all well and true saying he would have made the change in the game when we didn't use him, but you have to think it's unfortunate he was missing for this game, because if there was one team he could be beneficial for the most, it would against these thundercnuts.
And you know this how?
When I rub my balls it's like a crystal ball, I see visions of the future or parallel realities.
The way Adam ran past some of our players, I dread what he would have made of Fellaini.
I see that the longer Fellaini is out, the better he becomes.
A classic case of Hargreaves-itus.
A classic case of Hargreaves-itus.
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