I like that idea too. I must admit that i too am a bit apprehensive about Van Gaal mostly due to the fact that he'll be at the World Cup all summer. If De Boer was coming along with him i'd feel much better about the situation because, as you say, he could be getting various things in order on Van Gaal's behalf.
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I like that idea too. I must admit that i too am a bit apprehensive about Van Gaal mostly due to the fact that he'll be at the World Cup all summer. If De Boer was coming along with him i'd feel much better about the situation because, as you say, he could be getting various things in order on Van Gaal's behalf.
Of course there are no guarantees. No one said there are. What people are saying is that a guy like van Gaal, who has a proven track record of success over a number of years, is more likely to be successful than someone who hasn't won anything. Do you disagree with that?
After digging deep in Chelsea's dustbin to get AVB its only fair that they do the same to us.
They're not that small, after all.
I can't pretend to be an expert of the Dutch League. I don't follow it much if I'm honest. I do know though that they have loads of young players in the League, it's swarming with young talent. I couldn't tell you who mind! Their U21 side got to the Semi-Finals in 2013.
I'd take Strootman in a heartbeat though, I've heard good things about Ricardo van Rhijn at Ajax (RB).
Actually end of the 2009/10 season Bayern was highly praised for their beautiful play. And the Germans at the World Cup who played Louis van Löw-football...
The problem was in the second year when Bayern had lots of injuries and van Gaal could not go on with the development. He was on about step 2 of maybe four when he left. It was not an end product.
Jonker two weeks after the sacking of van Gaal played about the system that probably was the next step.
(A lot of it is just the CL winner of last season - Heynckes mainly improved the defense.)
Bayern in his second season lost 14 points on rank 1 by midseason. In the second part of the season - even if van Gaal did not coach the last four matches - they were first. But at the end of the season it was very tight to get 3rd.
What a meaningless argument.
For one thing the alternative to hiring a manager who was won stuff elsewhere is hiring someone who hasn't. That's hardly preferable.
The other is that the best way to predict future events is to gauge past events.
What's embarrassing is how fans can follow as team as successful as ours for so long and completely miss the entire point of the club and what makes us great. We won under SAF for so long not because SAF had blind faith in players to 'come good' but because of his total refusal to accept mediocrity, a mentality he instilled in all our best players from Giggs and Scholes to Ronaldo. It's baffling how many of our fans don't seem to get that and were so willing to accept and support a manager who couldn't embody mediocrity and weakness more if he tried.
Erm... my post was in response to his.
I know, that was crystal clear. Evidently not for you.
It was a condescending post, and I've seen you post a few times on here, therefore I will respond to you how you do to others.
My money is on this lunatic succeeding Moyes anyway. I think he can prove to be a strong short term appointment, 'til Klopp or Pep become available.
Why the hell would the manager of Ajax leave his job to be an assistant here? Get into the real world.
I'm actually looking forward to having a proper mad manager in charge (if it is him that takes over). It'll never be dull, that's for sure.
I recommend watching this for those interested in Van Gaal's philosophy. Excellent interview.
I think you can forget Pep.
An EPL lower half table team or Scotland's national team.
Why? He's hardly going to retire at Bayern, he may well want to test himself in the Premier League eventually, and I think Manchester United would be the club he'd want to do so with.
It's all right, you can still bump Moyes thread to joke with us. It'll be fun!
I'm just laughing at Spurs
I work with a Spurs fan. Suffice to say he's not happy. Although he was happier before I mentioned that maybe they should take Moyes on.
He would be a great choice, a proven winner.
He has a philosophy he likes to implement and play with, the football is attractive. He likes to coach players (not make excuses). He doesn't last long but he could do a god job for 3 years before we get someone more long term in. Also there are a few young talented players in Holland I would love us to sign. He most likely has a scope on them. He will do wonders for our young players, I expect Cleverley would flourish under him. I've never been the biggest Cleverley fan but in the right system under the right manager he can be a good player. 6-7/10.
He has a philosophy he likes to implement and play with, the football is attractive. He likes to coach players (not make excuses). He doesn't last long but he could do a god job for 3 years before we get someone more long term in. Also there are a few young talented players in Holland I would love us to sign. He most likely has a scope on them. He will do wonders for our young players, I expect Cleverley would flourish under him. I've never been the biggest Cleverley fan but in the right system under the right manager he can be a good player. 6-7/10.
Hey, I'd love him here, but he has no reason to leave Bayern.
Not now obviously, but he will after three or four years I'm willing to bet. Roughly the same period of time van Gaal's reign could come to an end...
He won't stay there forever.. Nobody stays anywhere forever mate.
You'd have no doubt said the said about him at Barcelona surely?
That would be great, but I suspect if he leaves Bayern it will be to return to Barcelona.
Unless we could lure Jupp Heynckes out of retirement, Van Gaal does seem to be the best option available. Already looking forward to seeing the players he targets in the transfer window, and the players he favours in our current squad.
He'd have good foundations in place.
We'd be much more suited to playing Guardiola's style after Van Gaal than we would have after Ferguson or Moyes. Infact, Van Gaal would probably be better suited at implementing that style from scratch than Guardiola since he's had to before.
So assuming he's the man, how do you think we'll line up?
I'm going to give it a go:
------------------------DDG-------------------------
--Rafael------Smalling----Jones-----Shaw/His balls
---------------------Carvalho------------------------
---------------Carrick---------Kroos/Midfield signing
-------Mata-------------------------------Kagawa-
---------------------RVP----------------------------
I'm going to give it a go:
------------------------DDG-------------------------
--Rafael------Smalling----Jones-----Shaw/His balls
---------------------Carvalho------------------------
---------------Carrick---------Kroos/Midfield signing
-------Mata-------------------------------Kagawa-
---------------------RVP----------------------------
I would think he would try to get Strootman to replace Carrick.
but he is injured... would he even pass a medical before the end of august? (im not sure when he is due back but I initially thought he was supposed to be out for a year when he got injured)
I've heard we may be approaching Bayern, I work where a few people are ITK, but I'm not saying this person is ITK... I'm just passing on what I've heard. I can't see it but what do I know?
Disclaimer: I am not ITK..
Disclaimer: I am not ITK..
I never said it was negative. Just not really penetrative enough.
That was my gut reaction. The more I think about it, and the more I look at alternatives.... AND if he brings De Boer.... I may take back my initial reaction.
With him bringing his vast experience and De Boer the energy.... I could be swayed
http://jeddavies.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Louis-Van-Gaal-interview.pdf
Not sure if this has been posted. May interest people who are wondering about his tactics, philosophy and what not.
Talks about lines and stuff.
Not sure if this has been posted. May interest people who are wondering about his tactics, philosophy and what not.
Talks about lines and stuff.
Approaching Bayern for what exactly? Guardiola? Or Kroos? Or their opinion on LVG?
I did not know that, January signing then
Enviable records, but different beasts to United....
It surely does. However Lance's post seemed to suggest it was something to celebrate that we've now (hypothetically speaking) got a manager with past successes under his belt.
What's to be proud about with that? Those successes were elsewhere.
I don't understand why we want someone to "steady the ship".
When Fergie left the plan seemed to be to go for a younger manager with an eye in the long term future.
That evidently hasn't worked out, but you have to question why the club are now considering a total about turn less than a year later.
To me it brings into question the decision making process and whether those in charge really know what they want long term.
There are candidates out there who could possibly offer a longer term option.
Using only the players in our squad, assuming he sticks to his 4-3-3 formation:
-------- De Gea
Rafael Jones Evans Evra
---- Carrick Cleverley
--------- Mata
-Januzaj Van Persie Nani
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