In the previous two seasons he was manager of the Netherlands and failed to qualify for the World Cup.
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In the previous two seasons he was manager of the Netherlands and failed to qualify for the World Cup.
He can't be long term solution but looks ideal guy to stabilize, bring club back among top 4 and then handover to someone. If it all turns like Bayern for us, right from a bad season to appointment of Van Gaal, to winning title to a era of domination then I will have no complaints having him as the first step towards way back up.
Ah, you're talking for the second spell there? Yep, that was bad, although Barca had bigger problems that didn't fix until Laporta became president.
In the previous two seasons he was manager of the Netherlands and failed to qualify for the World Cup.
I think he's talking about van Gaal's 2nd spell at Barca. But even his first spell wasn't that pretty. The team was already in disarray in his 2nd season and Rivaldo had an unreal year to win them the title almost on his own. Doubt you hear any Barca fan claiming that van Gaal had a great 2nd season in terms of tactics or man-management and his big masterplan was buy as many Dutch players as possible, which massively backfired and hurt the team for years.
I always thought, Barca missed the right moment to get rid of him and even worse, took him back for a 2nd spell a few years later.
If the other top target are occupied, it may have to be Van Gaal.
Van Gaal & De Boer.
Yeah, Van Gaal, Keane and SAF at the same club seems like a really bad idea. If things went wrong they'd go really wrong. Van Gaal apparently has a lot of respect for Keane after he helped Ireland get to the WC over VG's Netherlands team. Keane got one vote for WPOTY that year and it was from Van Gaal.
Giggs would be much better, particularly as we see him as a potential United manager in the future. I've seen it pointed out that Ancelotti would be a better choice if we were looking for someone to mentor Giggs, or indeed if SAF was to be in any way involved. Much more pragmatic guy.
I'm sure it's been brought up before but I'll mention it again.
One thing that I like about Van Gaal is that he's openly said that he likes to keep at least one coach from the previous managerial team of the club to keep some consistency, and that the coach will know better than him which youngster/players should have a chance etc.
Brought up the example of some coach he kept when he joined Bayern, and that coach is in fact still there now under Guardiola.
So I hope that might give Giggs the edge to stay on as coach under Van Gaal. Not sure where that'll leave Neville.
One thing that I like about Van Gaal is that he's openly said that he likes to keep at least one coach from the previous managerial team of the club to keep some consistency, and that the coach will know better than him which youngster/players should have a chance etc.
Brought up the example of some coach he kept when he joined Bayern, and that coach is in fact still there now under Guardiola.
So I hope that might give Giggs the edge to stay on as coach under Van Gaal. Not sure where that'll leave Neville.
The only thing I'm unsure about with him is the player transfer. It sounds like he doesn't like buying player and would rather develop the players already there but, lets be honest here, we have some average players who should be moved out. Would Van Gaal do that and replace them with them with top players?
At the moment, yes, but if Van Gaal's methods work with them then presumably they will become better.
Cleverley for instance, consensus seems to be he will work better in a midfield 3 and is generally quite a tidy player who showed glimpses of being good enough but has failed to kick on. Van Gaal may be able to develop him and would likely deploy him in a 3 across the middle. Thus negating the need to buy someone in.
See that's what I worry about, I have nothing against Cleverley and I think he makes a good squad player, but that's about it, a squad player. He's 24 now, so he isn't that young anymore that we will see a sudden improvement from him. The new manager would have a hard time if he doesn't go out and spend.
Why would De Boer leave Ajax to come here as an assistant? I'm convinced De Boer is off to Barca this summer anyway.
That is what he is needed to be though and he could perhaps be better than that as well given the correct system. Van Gaal will need to spend in some areas for certain, but if we can get the very best out of what we have then it may negate the need to go out and spend big amounts.
Won't be the first time this happened, I can guarantee you that.
I still think Ancelotti is our first choice. I suspect the club will try and wait to see how he concludes the season and if he can be dragged away from Madrid. If not then I think van Gaal is probably the dead cert alternative, don't see anyone else really being offered the job.
Running is en vogue again, just ask Gareth Bale he makes a living of off it.
I know it's Madrid so anything could happen but I just can't see Ancelotti leaving there.
Rumoured to not be getting along well with Perez and unlike Guardiola and Klopp, has failed to rule himself out for the job. Its every bit feasible that he'd fancy it, especially if he's given autonomy to manage at a big, patient, stable club like ours unlike the circus which currently employs him.
Didn't hear about those rumours, thanks for the info!
If it comes to van Gaal or Ancelotti I would also prefer Ancelotti. He is just more flexible when it comes to his football and not so hell bend on playing a "certain/right" way like van Gaal is.
And that other target is a smoke screen for another target. And so on..
....who's a smoke screen for van Gaal.
And in the midst of all these smokescreens, we'll finally sign sneijder.
But not as a player but as our new manager instead. *mindblown*
Plot twist after plot twist not even the M. Night Shyamalan could have written a script like that.
From memory the last British club in 7th place to be after his services struggled to tie him down. He dillied and dallied until John Henry called the whole thing off. Sensing the same actions here, albeit he will be 'free' after the world cup.
Agreed. Autonomy and stability are big factors in our favour. Plus we can match, or improve, his salary, he's got a possible £150 million + to spend and the likes of Giggs & Scholes to work alongside him. People underestimate the pulling power of this club and the fact that the resources and backing are here for the right man to take us back to the very top.
Even Martinez who at that point not won anything refused your offer. I'm sure you're now happy with 3rd choice.
It seems it's the club who are looking at alternatives rather than him not willing to commit.
The Manchester United job is much more prestigious than the Liverpool job and Van Gaal is said to be desperate for it. I am quite sure that he will wait until an official interview process has been completed.
For anyone who hasn't seen it, check out this van Gaal interview:
he literally says himself that he will either work in the Premier League or retire, he doesn't want to go anywhere else. The United job is absolutely perfect for him, I can't imagine that he doesn't want it at all
he literally says himself that he will either work in the Premier League or retire, he doesn't want to go anywhere else. The United job is absolutely perfect for him, I can't imagine that he doesn't want it at all
Papers are saying van Gaal with Roy Keane as assistant. How to scare away transfer targets.
The Keane as his assistant story is bullshit, thats never going to happen in a million years in my opinion.
Much more likely to Be Van Gaal, his assistant and Giggs as a inbetween the coaches and players IMO.
He's mad lookin'!
He certainly wants the premier league, and there ain't no bigger job than the one open at the moment.
Dutch guy at work isnt very complimentary about him.
Can't see Keane a) coming back to OT while SAF is still there in some capacity and b) Van Gaal and Keane working together??? They are the two most volatile personalities you will ever come across. They'll be too busy knocking lumps out of each other than giving a team-talk!
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