When Moyes was appointed last year I don't recall any single opposition fan who was bothered by it. In contrast Van Gaal has has them sweating. On Facebook and Twitter they are trying to downplay his achievements at the World Cup with what most people agreed was a limited Dutch side. The man is the anti-Moyes. An actual football genius. I'm looking forward to next season. It's great having a manager who gives zero fecks what people think and only cares about how to win games.
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You can't really blame them for that though. It was a pretty off-the-wall move and the difference in mentality required to put your neck on the line with a decision like that is the reason they are commentators and Van Gaal is taking his team to the World Cup Semis.
I think there's a lot of truth in that. He obviously knows his players as well. Krul didn't look fazed by it, he looked excited and happy. Cillessen didn't look horrified or angry, he looked like he just accepted that his boss will try anything to get a win and delighted when it worked.
It might not be the work of genius, but it's impressive. It also shows he's got luck to go with the nerve - and we missed both of those characteristics last year.
But it wasn't a completely random move, it was a calculated risk that absolutely paid off. I had the capacity to think LVG might actual know what he was doing, why couldn't they? It wasn't even the fact they disagreed with the decision, it was the contempt in which they held it. I suppose the resistance for anything other than the norm befits the BBC nicely really
Yeah that's a very good point but I do think Murphy's tone suggested not only did he not like the substitution but that he wanted it to backfire, rather than just not understanding it. That was what annoyed me the most, he'd already started a narrative of it being the wrong decision before the shootout even happened.
He's 62, no reason why we can't have longer out of him.
Journalists are like that though.
But it wasn't a completely random move, it was a calculated risk that absolutely paid off. I had the capacity to think LVG might actual know what he was doing, why couldn't they? It wasn't even the fact they disagreed with the decision, it was the contempt in which they held it. I suppose the resistance for anything other than the norm befits the BBC nicely really
It wasn't a random move, but either way: you need to have guts to do it in such a high stakes game.
So it came down to the fact that the Keeper was taller .Some of the comments in this thread are OTT.
My point exactly, he should be appaulded for it from the off and I don't think we can really consider Murphy a journalist!
Isn't that what Louis van Gaal said?
"We all thought Tim was the best keeper to stop penalties," said Van Gaal. "He is taller and has a longer reach."
The Manchester United manager added: "It worked out. That was beautiful. I'm a bit proud of that."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28180659
Can't believe he changed keepers just because Krul is 2 inches taller!
You would have thought it was at least because he'd done extra research into Costa Rica's penalty takers. Krul did go the right way every time though, so perhaps he did.
Regardless, you can't question the size of LVG's cojones. Swapping keepers in the 120th minute like that, he doesn't think twice about a controversial big decision.
You would have thought it was at least because he'd done extra research into Costa Rica's penalty takers. Krul did go the right way every time though, so perhaps he did.
Regardless, you can't question the size of LVG's cojones. Swapping keepers in the 120th minute like that, he doesn't think twice about a controversial big decision.
I think this is the kind of balls we need more often. We can probably guarantee that LVG is not going to think twice about subbing off whoever if he believes it is the right call. There will be times when Rooney, van Persie, Mata etc have a stinker and he'd just sub them when the time was right. No bullshit, if you're playing poorly you're off, which is how it should be. However, Moyes, and even Sir Alex at times were guilty of leaving certain players on even if they were having an off day.
Really happy we've got this guy on board and wish him the best with Holland first. Originally wanted him to get knocked out in the groups so he could focus on our team, but winning the tournament will bring him in on the ultimate high, even more full of confidence. They're very capable of winning the World Cup.
Really happy we've got this guy on board and wish him the best with Holland first. Originally wanted him to get knocked out in the groups so he could focus on our team, but winning the tournament will bring him in on the ultimate high, even more full of confidence. They're very capable of winning the World Cup.
What a guy LVG is. Everything he touches turns to gold. Seems he'll be just as important as any player we sign.
He basically brought Krul on because he knew he was a total twat, who would wind the opposition players up. It worked a treat.
It's as strange a 'masterstroke' as you'll ever see.
I can imagine that's exactly what Van Gaal was like in his playing days. Total twat.
Love him.
It's as strange a 'masterstroke' as you'll ever see.
I can imagine that's exactly what Van Gaal was like in his playing days. Total twat.
Love him.
That is amazing.
Imagine thats what Moyes did when he heard LvG talk down his squad and get away with it
He's Dutch, they are pretty tall in general!
His coaching staff with Holland is the top:
Blind
Kluivert
Hoek
Hard to find better for a national team.
Blind
Kluivert
Hoek
Hard to find better for a national team.
IT's not just that though, if you had just played 120 minutes worth of football, you were about to go to penalties and then the opposition sub a goalkeeper on just for penalties. A part of you it's going to presume that this guy is good at saving penalties, therefore cause some self doubt, which is exactly what you don't want in a penalty shootout. It's all mind games and luck when it comes to penalties.
I remember Jens Lehmann pretending to look at a list he kept in his sock against Argentina when Germany went to penalties once. All the Argies bottled it and Germany won the shootout.
With him being the united manager, it seems to me when he made the GK sub, the commentators and everyone else wanted LVG to fail with that sub
It's been a theme, everyone in the bbc studio bar Rio was waiting for him to fail last night and ITV. Were the same last week.
It might have made a difference, suppose we'll never know. Could just as easily have been Louis playing it safe keeping a substitution back in case of injury in extra time then deciding Krul is a bit bigger at the last minute.
Danny Murphy was so obvious, it was as if he wasn't even trying to hide it...
Some of our fans want to keep Butt, p.Neville and Scholes because ..... well just because!
Why not include Giggs ?
Look at who they predicted to win, costa rica. Maybe a few are scared we have a tactical mastermind who not only can talk the game mourinho does, but can bring players through and will restore order in the PL, which makes it even more difficult for liverpool to win a league title
I hope P.Neville stays......but for the reserves or Academy
Butt is already coach of the Reserves........he has done a fantastic job with them so far
Scholes has no future at the club at the moment.......too much blah blah blah against the club
New coach.
I know nothing about this man.
I know nothing about this man.
Does that mean P. Nev keep his role of putting out the cones?
Bit of an understatement. The right manager is more important than anybody.
Cillessen was quoted as saying he's never saved a penalty in his professional career a couple of weeks ago so it's not really surprising that van Gaal didn't fancy him for the shoot out.
Yes, but state of our squad (players leaving, many underachieving, midfield left unattended for years) new players were desperately needed and important too
van Gaal will be like Edwin all over again, we will be sad that he didn't join us earlier when he retires.
You mean, bring us 6 years of incredible success? I'll toast to that.
He wouldn't have joined us last year anyway with the World Cup coming. And dont think any sane person wanted Fergie out before that. So I don't know how you worked out we'd regret not signing him earlier.
I see what you did there. Can't recall this 'Angel' one, though.
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