I'm not sure watching a bit of football is worth turning a blind eye to such an enormous corrupt death trap.
Qatar to be cleared of corruption for 2022 bid
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Like I said though, you see this in all facets of life, this isnt about football, its about how things that used to be brushed under the carpet in the 70s are now being exposed. Like all the shit with institutionalised pedophilia.
Dont keep trying to pass this off as some sort of racism or hypocrisy. As @Adebasi said, we now live in an information age where these sorts of issues can be brought to light much quicker and to a wider audience, and general "global awareness" amongst your average Joe is a lot higher. In 1974 if you asked some bloke on the streets what the working conditions were like in Argentina, do you think he would really have a clue? Information is now far more widely accessible and this is why there is a much bigger fuss being made now than 40 years ago.
Bang on.
Wait, so now the investigator has turned on his boss and is saying his summary was a complete misrepresentation of his findings. This is getting more comical by the second.
This is the epitome of why we can't have nice things.
What a horrible WC this will be if it does take place there.
What a horrible WC this will be if it does take place there.
The Guardian warns not to get your hopes up about this appeal either:
I wonder whether the possibility of it moving to the winter will help push European countries to walk away, given for many of them it will be highly disruptive to their domestic seasons.
FIFA is so blatantly corrupt and the problem is that they have no accountability.
As long as the FAs continue to be members of FIFA and do not threaten to leave, FIFA will never change. FIFA are at the top of the chain and can go about as they want to.
A good start would be to get rid of Blatter. It would be better to tie it to an international political institution, with better accountability to the people.
As long as the FAs continue to be members of FIFA and do not threaten to leave, FIFA will never change. FIFA are at the top of the chain and can go about as they want to.
A good start would be to get rid of Blatter. It would be better to tie it to an international political institution, with better accountability to the people.
I know, I get your point and I totally share your vision and I also see how we live in a new era where things are more obvious. Now, this also makes more obvious the hypocrisy and double standars of the big media and clears our vision of where they stand, the kind of reaction british media is having towards the Qatard bid is something we never saw from them in relation to other cases of corruption.
Kafkaesque.
True, but lets consider that the 2022 was not even the World Cup that England was bidding for, so the fuss being kicked up over it cannot be described as self-serving.
The decision to award Russia the 2018 WC in itself was questionable - if the English media/FA were just being sour grapes then it would be that decision we would be contesting so hotly rather than the Qatar one.
I have no love for the media in this country, they are just trying to sell as many papers/clicks as possible, and so if a topic as popular as Football comes up they are always going to draw attention to it.
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More bad news for FIFA - CNN reporting that FBI stepping up efforts in investigation into corruption of FIFA leaders. Story coming soon
Cycling? Please... Football has just as long and colourful a history of doping, rest assured. Where football really moves into pole-position as the dirtiest sport though is in its institutionalised corruption, conflation with politics, financial misuses, match-fixing, countless cover-ups, etc. If you were to compare the track records of many club owners/presidents, footballing body officials or even agents with those of organized crime bosses, I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't able to tell the difference in many cases.
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No, because the FAs and their members are also part of the same mafia. It should be done at club level and even then most probably some top clubs are involved in some way or another, but those are easier to clean with sanctions and a change in ownership/presidency.
Let's not forget both Florentino Pérez and Sandro Rosell were accused by France Football of being involved in Qatar's winning WC bid and while Pérez announced legal actions for the accusations five months ago to this day he has done nothing. There's a lot of interests and money involved trickling down to many pockets.
FBI involved now....
FIFA are officially fecked.
http://www.kspr.com/news/politics/fbi-moves-toward-fifa-corruption-charges/21051736_29696018
"FIFA said its investigation found no corruption and has no reason to reopen the bidding process.
But the FBI, which is leading the U.S. probe, isn't ready to do the same. Investigators are moving ahead with their probe, which could result in charges against senior FIFA officials, the U.S. law enforcement officials said.
FBI agents based in New York are moving ahead with their 3-year-old investigation, which will likely benefit from the findings of a former U.S. prosecutor, Michael Garcia, who was hired by FIFA to do an internal probe. The FBI plans to seek access to Garcia's report, which FIFA hasn't yet released."
FIFA are officially fecked.http://www.kspr.com/news/politics/fbi-moves-toward-fifa-corruption-charges/21051736_29696018
"FIFA said its investigation found no corruption and has no reason to reopen the bidding process.
But the FBI, which is leading the U.S. probe, isn't ready to do the same. Investigators are moving ahead with their probe, which could result in charges against senior FIFA officials, the U.S. law enforcement officials said.
FBI agents based in New York are moving ahead with their 3-year-old investigation, which will likely benefit from the findings of a former U.S. prosecutor, Michael Garcia, who was hired by FIFA to do an internal probe. The FBI plans to seek access to Garcia's report, which FIFA hasn't yet released."
FBI involvement....shit is getting ready to hit the fan. I think they should make it a public holiday the day that FIFA finally get done.
And the Russia bid was just as corrupt but it receives less attention than Qatar as it is at least plausible as a venue.
One day won't be enough and you know it!
FBI involvement....shit is getting ready to hit the fan. I think they should make it a public holiday the day that FIFA finally get done.
This just popped up on my BlinkFeed
Can you imagine though? It would be like Christmas II. The day the footballing world freed itself of Blatter.
How about "feck off FIFA" day; FOFIFA, has a nice ring to it.
Aye. They might have massive racism and homophobia issues, and the Russian winter is not exactly welcoming...but its at least better than bloody Qatar.
The whole thing about the Russians destroying their records and refusing to allow Garcia to even enter their offices....ridiculous.
All the bids have probably been corrupt for some time now, same as with the Olympic bids. Time to find some island someplace, build up infrastructure and sporting venues. Call it Olympic Island or something like that and just hold these events there all the time. I think Puerto Rico might be a good place (granted not for the Winter Olympics have to find a cold island for that). They can end their weird status with the US and just become this great place for sports.
Or maybe the Hawaiian Islands. I mean the US can make do with only 49 states. Lots of nice hotels there already. People are friendly. Weather is great. What's not to like? Oh the volcano's, they are not so bad. Imagine every 4 years the World Cup held in Hawaii, what is not to like?
Or maybe the Hawaiian Islands. I mean the US can make do with only 49 states. Lots of nice hotels there already. People are friendly. Weather is great. What's not to like? Oh the volcano's, they are not so bad. Imagine every 4 years the World Cup held in Hawaii, what is not to like?
I see what you mean but you do realise that Blatter is only the tip of the iceberg, almost everyone is corrupted, incompetent or totally dumb in football. when we will get rid of Blatter and his minions, we will have to deal with thousands individuals like them or worse.
There is no hope.
Pointing out the unsuitable climate and Human Rights issues in Qatar and the general conduct of Fifa doesn't make the British press hypocrites or racists. Certain reporters have been banging on about Blatter and his corrupt boys club for years, which is partly the reason why Blatter barely hides his contempt for the British press and the FA.
There's also the issue of Fifa delegates agreeing that England's bid was the most complete in terms of meeting all the criteria, yet it meant feck all in terms of the votes received. It basically means the whole bidding process is a farce. Why ask bidders to meet set criteria when you're not basing the final decision on it?
This has been the only time in history where two World Cups were announced at the same time, and it coincided with Blatter's supposedly final term in office. He wanted one last payday, so thought he'd bag himself a 2-for-1 deal.
I imagine (maybe naievely) that if/when Blatter does get ousted, that the world/FAs etc will force FIFA to overhaul itself completely. Most of the top executives should be made to resign out of principle, and some sort of independant authority set up which FIFA has to answer to directly.
They cannot let Blatter just become the fall guy for it all, say "yup, that Sepp guy he was corrupt, get rid of him and we can all carry on" - it is unfathomable that FIFA would be allowed to continue, business as usual, just with a different equally corrupt beaurocrat (Platini?) at the top of the chain.
I can imagine the FBI knocking on FIFAs door, going something like this;
I'm not truly convinced that Blatter himself is especially, massively corrupt. Instead, I think he allows certain parties to be bribed/offered bribes in order to maintain his own lucrative position as FIFA's head.
For years is since England did not won the 2018 world cup win. England is not longer part of the big club, the arab rich are now part and there is a subtle racism there becuase the media and people involved with football in england can't stand that fact. It took Qatar to host the World Cup to the british media and the FA to understand the FIFA is corrupt, that's something I can not understand.
What do you think would be the reaction of the british press and the FA regarding corruption allegations in Qatar if England would have won the 2018 bid?
I think it's quite obvious that if England hadn't bid for the 2018 WC most british reporters wouldn't have said that much about all this.
Also, most probably all FAs have entered the 'bribing and favours' game at some point to sway FIFA decisions in their way. It's the way it's done.
Also, most probably all FAs have entered the 'bribing and favours' game at some point to sway FIFA decisions in their way. It's the way it's done.
But the FAs officials are also corrupt, well at least the FFF is corrupt, the french ligue is corrupt, most African, European, Asian, Carribean and American leagues and federations are corrupt.
Blatter or the Fifa members aren't the problem in particular, everyone is involved.
Phil, it's more likely the usual 'English is best' idiocy from newspaper journalists than sheer racism. Besides, having a WC in Britain would be far more convenient for them & their employers.
Really? Salt Lake City (in the other most corrupt and violent country as you put it)? Or, moving away from sport, BAE's Saudi deals? Or the MP expenses scandals (involving amounts that a politician or civil servant in a truly corrupt country would leave as a tip)? The British media is exceedingly tuned in to cases of corruption. Not sure why you are peddling this moral relativism/hypocrisy line - it's like listening to Russia Today.
...or Blatter.
I think if an important national team like Germany, Spain or Scotland were to pull out FIFA would start rethinking their decision.
You can add the spanish league and football federation to the list.
The whole system is rotten and needs a full reset.
You are right, Sepp is the tip of the iceberg.
Jack Warner who was the VP of FIFA was one of the most corrupt Politicians in Trinidad. Most of the higher ups in fifa are nothing more than crooked Politicians. Removing Blatter would just mean someone equally corrupt may take his place.
Having said that, Blatter is so awfully out of touch and useless he simply has to go, but the organization needs to have transparency or nothing will change.
But you have to have a sneaking admiration for sheer chutzpah of the old rogue - a bit like Silvio.
I dont think its chutzpah, he is just a criminal who has gotten away with so much for so long he thinks he is bulletproof.... kinda like Savile. When he falls, he will fall hard. I hope he remains alive to see that day.
But then the competition would be held in Australia. Could you imagine having to spend a month as a travelling fan eating delicious Australian food, drinking gorgeous Australian beer and wine, on Australian beaches in comfortable 20+ degree winter weather and travelling to the multitude of Australian national parks and attractions? We might as well hold the World Cup in a sewer... yes, yes, white text
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jennings - Andrew Jennings: trying to expose Fifa corruption since at least 2006.
You're sadly mistaken. And I'm pretty sure the British press aren't all getting their knickers in a twist because the Arabs are richer than we are. You clearly have something against Britain/England and possibly America too given your previous comments about being the most corrupt countries of the past Century, so I think I'll leave it there.