Or in other words, corrupt.
Qatar to be cleared of corruption for 2022 bid
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Or in other words, corrupt.
"Today we've found that the donations given on behalf of Qatar were completely clean. Don't blame the money, the money is impartial, it is only a tool. Because FIFA will use the money to fund football, it is thus good money, and to make FIFA give it back would be madness. While those who accept donations may have done wrong, those who give the donations are certainly worse. Thus giving them back the money would make good money into bad money. Don't blame the money."
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I can imagine it happening if this drags on, however I'm not too sure that whoever replaces him won't be just as bad. Have to be careful with getting your hopes up these days unfortunately!
Yes I have something very big against the british and the american state, also against the big media from each country, that doesn't necessarily having something against "England" as a whole.
You quote an example, but that hardly replicates the behaviour of most big newspapers, I ask the same question so my point is clearer, if England would have won the 2018 bid, what would be the reaction of both the british media and the FA to the allegations of corruption from Qatar?
In general, the people who crave power are the least suitable people to wield it.
Politics, football - its all the same in the end, a load of c**ts at the top who slither, deceive and brown tongue their way to the position they want.
The ancient greeks had the right idea - look up Sortition in wikipedia - you choose your officials by basically a lottery. Can't be any worse than what we have at the moment........
Politics, football - its all the same in the end, a load of c**ts at the top who slither, deceive and brown tongue their way to the position they want.
The ancient greeks had the right idea - look up Sortition in wikipedia - you choose your officials by basically a lottery. Can't be any worse than what we have at the moment........
...and then there's British author David Yallop's famous exposé of FIFA, How They Stole The Game, first published in 1999.
I fixed that for ya.
Looks like England also tried to bribe people without knowing how to. Bribing is never just about having the money to do so.
Is Ray Whelan linked with a british or irish federation ?
What a surprise.
FIFA needs to be disbanded. All it would take it the big Euro nations telling them to feck off and forming their own committee.
They're so blatant about it too. How did they think they would get away with doctoring the guy who did the investigation's report without him raising it as an issue? Ludicrous. I would absolutely love it if the FBI arrested Blatter and his cronies for money laundering or something like that.
They're so blatant about it too. How did they think they would get away with doctoring the guy who did the investigation's report without him raising it as an issue? Ludicrous. I would absolutely love it if the FBI arrested Blatter and his cronies for money laundering or something like that.
"We've looked in to it and it turns out we're fine but the mean people who said we weren't are corrupt"
They're not even trying anymore...
They're not even trying anymore...
I can't decide who's more corrupt between FIFA and OCP from Robocop (original version).
Sometimes the jokes write themselves, other times there's always FIFA.
Would you prefer it if everyone just kept quiet about it?
This is an even more stupid line than you took in the Suarez thread about United fans embarrassing themselves. You don't like the "big media" making a fuss and reporting stuff, we get that. But what about the things that actually matter? Ignore it now because we did back then?
I genuinely don't think people are that bothered here about not winning 2018. Personally I'd prefer to see it abroad as it adds to the mystique of it all. It's still an epic feck up to have it in Qatar, and I'm not even that racist!
aka US Soccer. Our "FA" is the NFL
If human history is any indication, then yes it is. Just think of Rome.
That's the entertaining part. As I said one time in another thread, they're like bank robbers in a city who try to hide themselves by walking through the streets wearing a balaclava and carrying a duffel bag.
Are you sure about that? I can't speak for the UK or other nations, but there was a huge discussion in Germany whether the nationalteam should take part or boycott the World Cup. All the German players were regularly asked about their opinion on the suffering of the Argentine people and what impression they have from within the country, the commentary on tv around the games always included political discussions.
Also as far as I know all the players, who played in the final, refused to shake Videla's hand at the trophy ceremony, which again was a huge deal and showed that at least the Dutch people also discussed the problems in the country and the players decided to at least make a small statement in public.
feck me you have serious problems. As far as I can see the English Nazis pretty much followed the regulations, a bit of 'currying' is always present when judging is taking place.
Im intrigued to know where you're from and why you have such distain for Britain? If you don't mind my asking.
What does it mean "Britain"? That's a very abstract concept. I'm talking about the british media and the FA, nothing more than that.
It's not about talking about the issue or not, what I say on the internet doesn't have an effect in real life, I'm just saying the british press are looking like hypocrites yet again and I'm stating my point about it, they can do whatever they want, doesn't change the fact that their energy towards Qatar seems ridiculous, just as it looked ridiculous their energy against Suarez during the world cup. They are the kings of the moral values, the standar of how the world should be runned, but is not close to that in real life.
No, the problem is they aren't even in the game. And they only have one or two, fairly small, cities. It's like giving the rugby world cup to Luxembourg, or staging the winter Olympics in the Maldives.
You're right that people tolerate corruption generally. Nobody's that bothered about Russia from a football point of view, even though they are just as likely to have bought it. But the corruption is so obvious when the winner is so ridiculously inappropriate.
Er, actually it's a country, with borders and houses and people and politics. It's not exactly a nebulous concept.
'Yes I have something very big against the british and the american state, also against the big media from each country,'
This would be hilarious if people weren't dying every week because of it.
There'll be a film on it one day. A Blatter biopic about FIFA and corruption. So, so blatant.
There'll be a film on it one day. A Blatter biopic about FIFA and corruption. So, so blatant.
That hardly means having something against "Britain", I'm showing my disgust against the british state and the british media, I suppose Britain as a whole is much more than that.
I'm not sure who I dislike more; Blatter or Suarez. Blatter might have taken the lead recently. Especially after today's news and Suarez leaving the country. Out of sight, out of mind, and all that.
Errr yeah it does.
Is "nebulous" to think you "hate" Britain because you have criticism against the british press.
We should unleash GCHQ on FIFA and properly feck them up. Bet there are a few mass graves in the collective FIFA closet. We have proven how good we are at listening in on people and how shit we are at professional bribery - time to stick to what we're fecking good at. Investigative journalism and spying. Panorama is too light weight, send in the big boys!
Except no-one in England 'just found out' that FIFA is a corrupt organisation. What the f*ck are you talking about? Everyone knew about it and people have been writing about it long before Qatar bought the 2022 bid.
It's being directed overwhelmingly against FIFA, actually. Qatar's atrocious human rights record has hardly been mentioned at all, let alone 'energetically', probably partly because they're an ally and it would ask unwanted questions. 'Subtle racism', my ballsack. Defending a f*cking slave state. Stick your victim-mongering up your arse.
Well exactly, he's talking absolute bollocks there as well. The 1978 World Cup was hugely controversial for being held in a dictatorship - which Qatar is as well by the way.
Well that surprises me because I saw the English delegation pretty desperate to get the favour from FIFA and host the 2018 world cup, it's kind of an hypocrite attitude that.
Here comes the H word again...
Well, at least my country and the Netherlands didn't "compromise" our integrity in this sham. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-13/who-s-accused-of-what-in-fifa-s-world-cup-graft-probe.html
Not surprising when this is all they could afford for transport
Not surprising when this is all they could afford for transport
Yeah who cares about the rights of these humans, there's only a few thousand dead. What a twat stained comment.
Like till now everything was clean when it comes to FIFA/UEFA,they keep dancing just its different song now.
Someone said how some countries should leave threat them,forcing them to react.That would be classic criminal/political move,you make a threat and they all go "No,no dont leave,lets seat and make some deal",that would lead to comprise and all would go home happy.
Think countries should just leave FIFA and create new organization with different way of doing things.In time more countries might join and if you want perfect FA candidate first to pull out the plug from FIFA -> Serbia,they are enough crazy 75% and stupid 25% to actually do it.
Someone said how some countries should leave threat them,forcing them to react.That would be classic criminal/political move,you make a threat and they all go "No,no dont leave,lets seat and make some deal",that would lead to comprise and all would go home happy.
Think countries should just leave FIFA and create new organization with different way of doing things.In time more countries might join and if you want perfect FA candidate first to pull out the plug from FIFA -> Serbia,they are enough crazy 75% and stupid 25% to actually do it.
Not so sure about that. The international handball federation (IHF) is currently trying to make themselves able to decide whether a qualified country is actually good enough to participate in the finals.
So to do with Russia, they could supply all the emails, clearly the ones which would indicate they're guilty so FIFA just say "Yea alright thats ok, we'll just presume you're innocent"?? What a joke!
FIFA said:
We finally won something at soccer. The no bribes trophy.
Not really in FIFA language "no major problematic conduct" probably means that you didn't clearly tried to kill someone or smuggle drugs, in the process of the bribery.
More likely 'You weren't seen drinking Pepsi when our sponsors are Coca Cola.'