American Cops Doing What They Do Best
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WTFwhat would they have done if they did see the cameraman/woman... presumably pulled a gun on them and said hand the phone over (or else)?
I do not condone the shooting, I guess people see it as if I'm blaming the victim.
But I'm curious as to what makes the victims suddenly runs away, he's not threatened physically (maybe verbally), but it seems weird when someone just starts running away from cops. There is no need to run away, the cop didn't looks like he's going to do anything before he runs away. The way I see it this shooting is abit weird, it seems that there's another motive than simply an itchy finger, could it be revenge? could it be planned?
And , the camera is quite close, I'd bet there's more to this story
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I'm a racist but a sporting racist so I'm going to say you grabbed my tazer and I'm giving you a five second head start then I'm going to start shooting....1, 2, 3 you can see how it ends...
It sort of looked like it from your post, but maybe you just didn't get your point across too well.
Anyway, I agree that it does look a bit odd that he suddenly starts running, but like I said - there's no reason to pull out a gun and shoot at that point. The victim clearly isn't a threat, and I imagine that cops are trained for situations where the suspect runs away - and I don't imagine "emptying your clip in his back" is the correct choice for that part in the multiple-choice test.
But why? There's got to be a motive? The cops maybe a racist KKK, but surely he can come up with something more sinister and more foolproof instead of just randomly sees a black man in the park and shoot him for fun? He'll get enough trouble for killing someone according to procedure with panels enquiry and the media, not to mention something big like this.
perhaps he just figured so many white guys had got away with shooting unarmed black guys it was allowed?
Feck, thought I'd get pulled up on that comment 
The cop moved his taser closer to the body. What a fcuking piece of shit. I hope he rots for many years in jail. He'll most likely get a paid suspension, I mean, it's only a black person.
I wonder how many percentages of the police force are black? Wouldn't they be reacting if the white cops are doing shits like this?
He was charged with murder on the same day, currently behind bars and denied bail. Smart response given the video.
Why run? You may have warrants out for your arrest, perhaps for relatively innocuous offences, perhaps more serious ones. You may be a racial minority afraid of being arrested and framed for a crime you didn't commit by a policing community that was long ago established as racist and over zealous about closing cases. Maybe you don't want to go to jail. It could simply be a fight or flight reaction.
Whatever the reason, unless a fleeing suspect is a significant danger to everyone else or has committed a very serious offence (i.e. rape, murder) then shooting them is an overreaction of epic proportions.
Police shoot because letting a suspect outrun their donut laden lard arses diminishes their authority. What they fail to realize is that a growing majority of people do not respect that authority anymore because of their habitual violent conduct in situations where it is completely unwarranted and the immediate closing of ranks to protect murderers who happen to have a badge.
I agree with you, it does look staged. It's obviously not but it's so crazy it nearly doesn't look real. Broad daylight, someone recording very close and the cop just doesn't give a shitFeck, thought I'd get pulled up on that comment
There's always one who shows up in these threads and suggests itsstaged - obviously to compliment the resident race card enthusiasts .
This looks like a straight up murder - where cop or no cop - the assailant should be prosecuted for homicide.
This looks like a straight up murder - where cop or no cop - the assailant should be prosecuted for homicide.
You know nothing about me, making such assumptions or rather conclusions by the choice of your words is a little silly to say the least.
Minorities been saying this stuff has been going on for decades. Why would you think it's staged? Yes, that is exactly the kind of treatment tens of thousands of people have faced at the hands of cops.
Faiir to say it's shocking footage and seems unreal to watch a murder and attempted cover-up carried out so casually by a police officer, but you obviously can't stage a murder that implicates yourself, it doesn't even make sense. He has been charged with murder.
Credit to the guy recording it all though - especially after the shooting, that took some courage.
Credit to the guy recording it all though - especially after the shooting, that took some courage.
You asked whether it was staged. That much we know. The rest of my post wasn't meant for you.
So...you invite someone to pull you up and when that happens you make a little fuss. Can I take from that you are wumming, then?
All real crimes look staged when all we usually have to compare them to is stylised Hollywood depictions. In truth, you've got it arse backwards.
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What? No I'm not wumming, I just didn't understand the "obviously to compliment the resident race card enthusiasts"
I was listening to a podcast recently and they implied that alot of studies find Black cops also discriminate against black people at a similar level to white cop - it's a complex issue.
Well, not this case. This was murder.
Even if he had taken the taser and there was no video, it would raise questions that he was shot 8 times in the back and not from short distance. That is if an investigation had been done. But I think he would probably still get away with it.
he was shot at 8 times - not sure how many times he was hit but he went down with the last shot
They would remain questions. The benefit of the doubt would be given to the cop.
From what I've seen - the cop pulled him over for a broken tail light on his car, and then I guess ran his name and registration, saw that he had a warrant out (for late child payments) and a fight ensued followed by the victim running away.
But this is all from the police report, which from video evidence we've seen the cop has blatantly lied at least twice so I really don't trust it.
Happy to see more and more of these situations resulting in charges being brought. Next step is to actually get some prosecutions. Trying to find the article but there are some lawyers trying to go after the Police Unions in some situations since they claim the unions encourage officers to cover up for each other and therefore the unions themselves are aiding and abetting in the crimes and cover ups while also creating an atmosphere where police officers are afraid to do the right thing and stand up against any cops who are criminals.
The idea being to make the unions pay out settlements out of the pension funds. When cops start seeing their retirement funds affected by the actions of their fellow officers they might not be so willing to cover things up.
Not sure if the courts will allow it yet though
The idea being to make the unions pay out settlements out of the pension funds. When cops start seeing their retirement funds affected by the actions of their fellow officers they might not be so willing to cover things up.
Not sure if the courts will allow it yet though
His brother said he owed back payments for child support which is posisibly why he ran.
Such gross incompetence on all angles; since when was a murder allowed to be shown in full to the general public anyway? Shouldn't this be in the hands of the DA right now and not shown to the masses?
Thought the same thing yesterday when i saw this on the news.. my first thought was that the two cops were still pumped full of adrenaline, but near the end they did look around so I'm surprised they didn't spot the witness.
I read he was hit five times
Not in the internet age.
It's a private recording in public space, so the person can do whatever he/she wants with it. And thank feck for that - I'm sure the police would love if they could've kept this from the public.
What disturbs me most is the mindest of this officer in that he sees the action of repeatedly shooting a man in the back as being nothing much at all. He knows that the guy is wanted on some minor violations and not a hardened criminal at all, yet has no hesitation to just shoot him down like a dog when he flees. He doesn't seem capable of seeing the victim as a fellow human being and knows that he can just make up some shit and go about his work with no repurcussions.
This country is crying out for a new way of policing. Less 'them versus us' and more community policing. Oh, and get rid of a few guns.
This country is crying out for a new way of policing. Less 'them versus us' and more community policing. Oh, and get rid of a few guns.
I seen the video on YouTube and the racism in the comments is actually frightening. It seems like the vast majority of people commenting are racists, and the small few who are not. I know the YouTube comments section is not the best place to judge something like this, but it's just overwhelming...
That's sickening. But I guess we'll have folks who argue that being submissive would have prevented a death here.
I gave up on those comments long ago. Weird place. Good to see something being done in this case. Hopefully this is a turning point.
Not running away from cops is not submissive, it's law abiding.
I condemn the shooting as much as any other sane person would.
Aside from inciting hatred of the police this is exactly the stuff that should be shown.
Corruption, racism and so on can't be allowed to continue and in the digital age this is what should happen. Show them that they can't get away with anything because they're always being watched just like we are.