Pep Guardiola at City next?

Vato said:
United should get Carlo then.
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There are rumours coming out of Italy that Bayern already agreed a deal with Carlo for next season :(. I don't want Carlo, I want to keep Pep. It would really feel like unfinished business if Pep left after this season, even if we win the CL this year. It's pretty obvious that this team hasn't peaked in his way of playing yet and if he leaves before that happens, I'm really, really pissed.

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I probably should have read the previous page first.
 
Balu said:
There are rumours coming out of Italy that Bayern already agreed a deal with Carlo for next season :(. I don't want Carlo, I want to keep Pep. It would really feel like unfinished business if Pep left after this season, even if we win the CL this year. It's pretty obvious that this team hasn't peaked in his way of playing yet and if he leaves before that happens, I'm really, really pissed.
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Carlo is great, only negative about him is that he doesn't rotate much. Great man manager. You could do much worse.
 
Vato said:
Carlo is great, only negative about him is that he doesn't rotate much. Great man manager. You could do much worse.
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He's kinda boring. Obviously we could do much worse and he might actually increase our chances to win another CL with this team before we need to rebuild it completely. But I'd much rather have an interesting character in charge. With Tuchel and Klopp now unavailable, I'd probably prefer Favre. I'd love to see what Favre can do with an elite squad.
 
I'll get laughed at but if we decided to appoint a Gary Monk or Koeman after LVG I wouldn't be too upset. As long as the core of the club is set, the machine behind the manager is functioning at 100% then we would be an ideal platform for a manager to take the step up.
People are caught up in the Klopp / Jose / Pep conveyor belt, these 3 won't be the best managers in the world for the next decade. There will be others who are ready to step up, they just need the chance.
 
Blackwidow said:
Mundo Deportive and the author of the article aren't known to be friends of Guardiola because of the Laporte connections. You can doubt if they have any informations out of the inner circle around Guardiola...
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Exactly.
 
Balu said:
He's kinda boring. Obviously we could do much worse and he might actually increase our chances to win another CL with this team before we need to rebuild it completely. But I'd much rather have an interesting character in charge. With Tuchel and Klopp now unavailable, I'd probably prefer Favre. I'd love to see what Favre can do with an elite squad.
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Have to say I have a soft spot for Carlo. He's just such a lovable guy that I would gladly take him at Bayern, to 'manage' (in the sense of 'verwalten') a high quality squad on a good level. Should Pep indeed leave, that would probably be my favourite solution for a couple of years, after that someone like Favre to rebuild.
I agree in that I don't feel either Carlo is a very creative coach, but it'll be hard to replicate the astounding combination of quality control (i.e. consistency in success) and exciting creativity that Pep embodies. That's just something we'll have to live with. Tuchel looks interesting of course but let's see how he actually does.

First priority of course is getting Pep to extend. That would be by far the best thing to happen. I refuse to believe he's hellbent on going to City. I'm very much wishing for 2 more years, and I seriously hope the board is doing everything they can to make it happen, in action as much as they already do in words.
 
I imagine this might be a case of hacks putting things together that makes sense to invent something to write about - Pep has long been linked with City, and hasn't yet extended with Bayern, and has only managed the strongest teams in the two leagues he has managed in, plus he has friends/former colleagues at City = he's signing for City.

Bayern will then need a manager, particularly after struggling to build on their Champions League pedigree since Pep took over. Ancelotti will be available in the summer, he isn't much of a league manager but given Bayern have no competition in their league than that doesn't matter, especially since he is class in the Champions League = he's the obvious candidate for a club that are always amongst the favourites in the Champions League.

Therefore Pep to City, Carlo to Bayern, press enter, and head down to the pub early.
 
cyberman said:
I'll get laughed at but if we decided to appoint a Gary Monk or Koeman after LVG I wouldn't be too upset. As long as the core of the club is set, the machine behind the manager is functioning at 100% then we would be an ideal platform for a manager to take the step up.
People are caught up in the Klopp / Jose / Pep conveyor belt, these 3 won't be the best managers in the world for the next decade. There will be others who are ready to step up, they just need the chance.
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Broadly speaking I agree, but the core of our club isn't set. We still have an imbalancced squad and from the outside it looks like the recruitment at the club is scattergun at times. The demands of managing United are huge, particularly if some of the moving parts aren't quite functioning.
 
Polite Poster said:
Pellegrini wasn't given £150m to spend. City have a DoF, a certain Txiki Begiristain who both played with Pep and promoted him at Barca. I believe they are very good friends and speak at least once a week (so rumour has it)

My guess is that if the Pep to City rumours are true then Pellegrini knows all about it. He will be well looked after that's for sure.
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How often have I listen to that sermon of City fans... It did not make Guardiola go to City 3 years ago - why should it now?

Sterling and de Bruyne aren't the most interesting talents on the world - and - they aren't midfielders... :cool: (Pep would say that they are forwards)
 
This rumour simply makes no sense at all. Why would Guardiola want to leave Bayern for City? Hasn't achieved what he came for yet and has a far better team at his disposal. Money? I'm sure Bayern will pay him whatever he wants, no questions asked. And Ancelotti at Bayern? Hardly. He's won the CL with Real but their way of playing won't satisfy anyone in Munich.

But hey, crazier things have happened.
 
I honestly wouldn't mind too much about Ancelotti coming here (not that I believe in the rumors)...
 
Blackwidow said:
How often have I listen to that sermon of City fans... It did not make Guardiola go to City 3 years ago - why should it now?

Sterling and de Bruyne aren't the most interesting talents on the world - and - they aren't midfielders... :cool: (Pep would say that they are forwards)
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Bayern was interested in both of them.
 
JPRouve said:
The RMC italian based correspondant spent years telling us that his favourite formation was the 4-3-3, but a lack of money didn't allow him to buy proper wingers. My non educated opinion is that he is like Simeone, very good tactically and will do with the players at his disposal.
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Actually, Conte's favourite formation is a 4-4-2 with very attacking wingers, often even referred to as 4-2-4. He has stated that several times. That's what he started with at Juve and that's what he used at his previous clubs. At Juve he switched to a 4-3-3, because we had Pirlo, Vidal and Marchsio all in great form. He later switched to 3-5-2 when one of our few wingers had a longterm injury and management did not provide him with a replacement.

For Italy, he has played everything from 3-5-2 to 4-3-3 to 4-2-4. On Saturday, Italy played with El Shaarawy and Candreva on the wings plus two strikers. Tonight, he went back to 3-5-2. He is flexible and tries to make the best of the personnel available, but if given the chance he would likely use a 4-2-4.
 
JuveGER said:
Actually, Conte's favourite formation is a 4-4-2 with very attacking wingers, often even referred to as 4-2-4. He has stated that several times. That's what he started with at Juve and that's what he used at his previous clubs. At Juve he switched to a 4-3-3, because we had Pirlo, Vidal and Marchsio all in great form. He later switched to 3-5-2 when one of our few wingers had a longterm injury and management did not provide him with a replacement.

For Italy, he has played everything from 3-5-2 to 4-3-3 to 4-2-4. On Saturday, Italy played with El Shaarawy and Candreva on the wings plus two strikers. Tonight, he went back to 3-5-2. He is flexible and tries to make the best of the personnel available, but if given the chance he would likely use a 4-2-4.
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Thank you very much, I wasn't sure about it. He seems very adaptable.
 
fcbforever said:
I would've liked Sterling, but nobody could ever tell me what position De Bruyne should've played for us.
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Right wing or AM. It's not that difficult really. It probably would have been the end of Götze's time at Bayern though.
 
fcbforever said:
What's the point? City will always be able to outspend us, the money for De Bruyne was just crazy.
I would've liked Sterling, but nobody could ever tell me what position De Bruyne should've played for us.
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The point was, that Pep can use these players. Someone said earlier that they won't sack Pellegrini after spending so much much into Sterling and De Bruyne, but Pep wanted them anyways.
 
Blackwidow said:
How often have I listen to that sermon of City fans... It did not make Guardiola go to City 3 years ago - why should it now?

Sterling and de Bruyne aren't the most interesting talents on the world - and - they aren't midfielders... :cool: (Pep would say that they are forwards)
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The point was that Pellegrini didn't spend £150m or whatever it was but that the player purchased were overseen by someone who would be completely in line with Peps thinking. I have no idea where Pep will go next, if anywhere but City is clearly an attractive option.

Your comment on Sterling and De bruyne makes no sense to me.
 
Balu said:
There are rumours coming out of Italy that Bayern already agreed a deal with Carlo for next season :(. I don't want Carlo, I want to keep Pep. It would really feel like unfinished business if Pep left after this season, even if we win the CL this.
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I have to say respectfully that you'll get no sympathy here you spoilt shit. You get to choose between "Carlo" and "Pep" while we're stuck with the human cigar.
 
OutlawGER said:
Bayern was interested in both of them.
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tbh, the interest in De Bruyne looked more like the old Bayern reflex of automatically being interested in any currently hyped BL player regardless of need, than any extended interest on Pep's side.

German/Munich media think the rumours about a 2-year contract already being offered to Ancelotti are nonsense.

I don't doubt they will already have scanned the market to have a number of options when Pep decides to call it quits. But it made no sense at all for Bayern to make such a final move before they talked to Pep. And i doubt Pep will have "sent a signal" or other such nonsense yet. Also, just a 2-year span seems contradictionary to the current strategy.
My gut feeling would be that Pep himself is still undecided. I can see him wishing to work with Beguiristain at some point, only whether that will be next season i'm not so sure. City as a club has no such pulling power it can be considered a "once in a lifetime opportunity". He moved a lot of things at Bayern, the team is just starting to become a real "Pep team". Maybe he compromises and extends for another year?
 
Polite Poster said:
Genuine question.

So how much do you think that the commercial deals signed by City are overvalued by friendly arrangements ?

Remembering, of course, that City are the most successful PL team of the past 4 years and the PL is the highest profile most watched league in the world.

How much do you think Etihad, for example, should be paying ?
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Commercial deals aren't sized according to a clubs success, but rather their fame, reach and popularity.
 
If rumours from Chile that Pellegrini intends to retire at end of season are true, could be an influencing factor for Pep
 
If Pellegrini does retire it would have to be Pep. The amount of money City would offer him would be hard to turn down.
 
Seems weird to me that the club would insist on giving Giggs such a prominent role if they didn't envisage him taking over eventually. Guardiola will go to City, Giggs will take over here.
 
Mciahel Goodman said:
Seems weird to me that the club would insist on giving Giggs such a prominent role if they didn't envisage him taking over eventually. Guardiola will go to City, Giggs will take over here.
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I always thought he would leave when LVG retires and try to prove what he's learned at another club. Pep comes in and when he leaves down the line Giggs would have a body of work to look at as Peps successor.
Might not be Pep but whoever we get in

Edit: wasn't there a rumour that Giggs would be in charge of the cup games on the sly this year? As some sort of practical exam?
 
cyberman said:
I always thought he would leave when LVG retires and try to prove what he's learned at another club. Pep comes in and when he leaves down the line Giggs would have a body of work to look at as Peps successor.
Might not be Pep but whoever we get in

Edit: wasn't there a rumour that Giggs would be in charge of the cup games on the sly this year? As some sort of practical exam?
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Another 6 year contract? Cut from the same cloth?
 

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Red Dreams said:
seriously..from an investment perspective, does it make sense to appoint Giggs? I doubt the owners will do it no matter SAF and Charlton said so.
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Spot on. Might be unpopular on here, but if anyone seriously believes the owners are going to trust the decisions of Charlton and SAF after Moyes then they are living in cloud cuckoo land. They will not make the same mistake again - no mater who it is. They will make a polite gesture but go for whoever they believe will deliver.
 
cyberman said:
I always thought he would leave when LVG retires and try to prove what he's learned at another club. Pep comes in and when he leaves down the line Giggs would have a body of work to look at as Peps successor.
Might not be Pep but whoever we get in

Edit: wasn't there a rumour that Giggs would be in charge of the cup games on the sly this year? As some sort of practical exam?
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Was there really this rumour? :lol: I did wonder last night... thought the team looked like what Giggs might have selected (just kidding) -
Obviously failed this exam then:D
 
J.M. Casanovas of "Sport.es" via "Münchner Merkur": Pep decides to sign for another 2 years at Bayern

- club and Pep agreed upon continuing 10 days ago, only minor issues to be sorted
- Himself and Family are happy in Munich
- he enjoys working with the team
- he is impressed how the management listened to/fulfilled his wishes (whatever that means lol)
- he had other offers but never bothered to look at them in detail
- Decision to be made public at Bayerns GM 11/27

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/josep-maria-casanovas/guardiola-muy-cerca-renovar-con-bayern-4630352

http://www.merkur.de/sport/fc-bayer...ert-guardiola-zwei-weitere-jahre-5737435.html

This Jose Maria Casanovas seems to be the in-bed-with-Barca guy of sport.es. No idea if he has a wild imagination, or actually has access to inside circles. His Column is called "my truth" hehe :D
 
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strongwalker said:
J.M. Casanovas of "Sport.es" via "Münchner Merkur": Pep decides to sign for another 2 years at Bayern

- club and Pep agreed upon continuing 10 days ago, only minor issues to be sorted
- Himself and Family are happy in Munich
- he enjoys working with the team
- he is impressed how the management listened to/fulfilled his wishes (whatever that means lol)
- he had other offers but never bothered to look at them in detail
- Decision to be made public at Bayerns GM 11/27

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/josep-maria-casanovas/guardiola-muy-cerca-renovar-con-bayern-4630352

http://www.merkur.de/sport/fc-bayer...ert-guardiola-zwei-weitere-jahre-5737435.html

This Jose Maria Casanovas seems to be the in-bed-with-Barca guy of sport.es. No idea if he has a wild imagination, or actually has access to inside circles. His Column is called "my truth" hehe :D
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6 days before Guardiola signed his contract in Munich he wrote that Guardiola for sure does not go to Germany or Italy but that Chelsea FC and London would be where he is going to.
 
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